First Ride- 2008 Victory Vision - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

stp1971 · 07-30-2007, 02:06 PM

This past Saturday “J” and myself were fortunate enough to get a chance to ride the all new 2008 Victory Vision. Thanks to Intimid8er he gave me a heads up on the Vision tour and the opportunity to participate. If you go to Victory’s website you can register if openings are available in select cities throughout the country to test ride this beast. After arriving they give you a card that is good for one free picture of you and your S/O sitting on the bike in front of a huge American flag banner. Then you go to a twenty minute sales pitch telling you how great the bike is.

The bike has an all new powerplant with a 106 cubic inch engine that produces approximately 95 horsepower and about 104 pounds of torque. The engine is a liquid and air cooled V-Twin. The torque band is down low for quick take offs and it has a great power curve.

First glance at the bike and you think it is something off of the Bladerunner movies. It has a futuristic look to it but yet kinda retro as well. The bike has a huge “V” look to the front of it kind of edgy looking. The rear taillight has a signature “V” in the rear and if you opt for the tourer additional lights on the topcase. The price of the bike tested was about $24,200.00 with the available options installed. But the street version starts at about $18,000.00 and goes up from there.

Sitting on the bike both the rider and the passenger have plenty of leg room and the ergo’s are great for the long haul. The rider can tuck his feet up underneath him or stretch them way out in front thanks to the huge almost two foot long floorboards. The rider has lower lumber support thanks to the increased pillion height which sets the rear pillion about 10 inches above the riders saddle. The handlebars are placed almost perfectly where your hands just lay on top of them. The pullbacks are almost two feet from the triple tree. Comfort is there.

Gadgets galore. There are plenty of buttons, gauges, screens, tunes, and nick knacks to keep you occupied on the bike versus the road ahead. Plus the fact of the power windshield you too can ride down the road and raise and lower the windshield all day long. The bike I rode had the optional GPS (rebadged Garmin) with the upgraded stereo system. The GPS would broadcast the directions through the speakers as I was going down the road. I kept thinking it was “J” telling me to turn off course until I realized it wasn’t her. Mine also had heated grips and the HID headlights. You can also get an optional cb radio, heated seats, and more chrome accents.

Stability. For a 850 pound dry tourer (800 pound for the street) the bike is very stable at low speeds and at higher speeds as well. I believe it probably has almost the lean angle of the Goldwing. It took me about ten minutes to get settled in the bike and get the hang of it. But I was soon leaning into some corners cautiously and testing the power of the engine on the interstate.

Riding down the interstate I tried out the new gearbox that has a true 6th gear overdrive. At about 70 mph you can drop her into 6th and the revs of the big V-Twin almost disappear. Yet you still have plenty of power to get up and go without downshifting. Nice. The true cruise control is another great option the bike has on it.

But with all good things you must point out the bad as well. So I will list the complaints several of us had after the ride below.
1. Transmission- Noisy, noisy, noisy. It not only clunks into all the gears but it has several inches of travel to upshift and downshift the bike. The days of short throw shifting are gone on this bike. Plus the fact that there is a huge gear whine at lower speeds until you get going fast enough to where the wind covers it up. The tranny also feels rough in the lower gear. Wasn’t too fond of the tranny on the bike. Loved the 6th gear overdrive but didn’t like the first five to get there. The passengers even complained that the transmissions vibes, clunks, and noise was quite evident to them as well. “J” even leaned forward and said this bike sure is noisey.
2. Heat Stroke- There is no airflow to the rider from the waist down. You will not get wet. But you will roast on the bike during the summer. It was a rainy, damp, wet 80 degree morning and the pipes on the bike roasted the riders right foot. They dump out right beside your ankle and the radiant heat will cook you. Even at highway speeds the feet don’t cool down. I didn’t have the lowers and they were still hot. The people with the lowers on their bikes were miserable. Now remember this was a 80 degree day. What will 95 degrees be like???
3. Windshield- The shield all the way down was in my direct line of sight. With it up I was looking through it. With the rain that day the water kept rolling off the windshield and dumping right into my face. Not a good thing. Plus with the shield down the passenger kept saying they were getting a lot of buffeting.
4. Kickstand- Where is it???? When I took off I forgot to pick it up. No kill switch on the bike like all three of my others. So you can drop her in gear and go with the kickstand down. When I came to a stop I couldn’t find the thing. I looked and looked and tried to find it with my foot but to no avail. I had to ask “J” to drop it for me while she was standing beside the bike. I wasn’t the only one. Several people couldn’t find it either or had an extremely hard time finding it. With the huge floorboards they are tucked up under there out of sight.
5. Blindspots- the bike has several blindspots thanks to the huge fairing in the front. It also has nonadjustable mirrors that severely limit your rear vision. They are out there but none of us could figure out how to adjust them. If you can we didn’t want to try since it felt like we were about to break them. With the low seat height and the high rear passenger seat position coupled with the huge rear topcase it is really hard to see behind you.

Now you may think I am bashing the bike but I am not. I really, really, really like the bike but I feel they need a few more years to work out these problems. Upon talking to one of the designers that was there he basically told us this was the production ready bike and there wasn’t a lot they could do about addressing these issues. Maybe after a few years they will get around to a design change so that they can legitimize fixing the current design.

Will this be a good contender to the Goldwing or that class of bikes. Not for me but for the American Purist this gives them a great option now to buy versus going with the Wing. Now if they can address these issues and come up with a solution then I will give the bike a second look once again. But for now I will keep looking until I am at a point to where I can make that commitment on that high price of a bike.

**intimid8er** · 07-30-2007, 02:51 PM

Eh.....It's not perfect out of the gate....not many are.

I never got the sense you were bashing the bike. Good job on a real honest assessment of how the bike works. That is what we do around here for each other!

I'm a little bummed though. I had higher hopes for the bike being more ergo/user friendly.

stp1971 · 07-30-2007, 03:02 PM

Me too. I had actually envisioned trading the LC in on it and me and "J" gallavanting across the coutryside.

**intimid8er** · 07-30-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Me too. I had actually envisioned trading the LC in on it and me and "J" gallavanting across the coutryside.

FWIW.....

You can get a decently decked Electra Glide for under 20K. That or I believe there's another one in the Harley family set to tour.

I love the 'Wings. But damn. $25K?

SoCalCruisin · 07-30-2007, 06:03 PM

Thanks for that excellent "rider's review" of the new Victory Sean. It's out of my range for now, and I really wouldn't want the first year anyhow, but I've been looking forward to seeing and riding the Vision Tour since I saw the drawings of it. It seems we're gonna be last to get to ride it out here on the west coast.

I found some of the points you brought up very interesting. Especially the heat issue and the rear view issue. I really can't wait to get hold of this bike. The low seat height is probably what I like the most. My current ride is just as heavy, but with a 29.5 inch seat height, it's trickier for me at low speeds.

I'll keep my eyes out for test rides out here. Meanwhile, thanks again for your review.

Danr · 07-30-2007, 07:54 PM

It's Fug UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stp1971 · 07-30-2007, 08:29 PM

and this coming from a Ducatti owner????

Just kidding,,it kinda grows on ya.

Gumby · 07-30-2007, 09:15 PM

I really like the futuristic look. But I am a Metric Cruiser lov'r. Hard to think of the Harley Cruiser crowd moving to this ultra-modern american made ride. Not much chance I would give up my current ride for it either!

Bowtie18 · 07-31-2007, 12:42 AM

Great review. Not my style of bike, but I bet they iron out the kinks, and make a nice dent in the market with that ride. Victory makes some nice rides, and I'm sure this one will be a good seller!

EasyE · 08-02-2007, 08:37 AM

Thanks for the review. I am one that likes the new and admires companies for taking a bold chance with styling. I was also very curious as to what it was really like. Now I've got a good idea and I don't have to listen to the sales pitch! Thanks again for a fair and well written review!

HAMMERPETE · 08-04-2007, 12:04 PM

First off if any manufactor wants a true test of a auto or bike...STP is candidate to do it.

His write up of the Vision was pretty fair in my mind.

Dave Nadeau · 08-06-2007, 07:09 PM

The new RIDER magazine has a great write up on the vision also.

stp1971 · 08-08-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAMMERPETE

First off if any manufactor wants a true test of a auto or bike...STP is candidate to do it.

His write up of the Vision was pretty fair in my mind.

Thanks!!!!

Well I am hoping they give the Wing a run for their money. On the other hand I saw a brand new,,crapola what the heck is it called.....anyways on the way down the interstate I saw it,,,the other tourer that is the V-Twin.

I hate it when I cannot remember things,,,but I want to ride it now.

Oh yeah,, I think it was the Venture Tourer. Will have to look into it.

**intimid8er** · 08-08-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Thanks!!!!

Well I am hoping they give the Wing a run for their money. On the other hand I saw a brand new,,crapola what the heck is it called.....anyways on the way down the interstate I saw it,,,the other tourer that is the V-Twin.

I hate it when I cannot remember things,,,but I want to ride it now.

Oh yeah,, I think it was the Venture Tourer. Will have to look into it.

Venture is a V-4 bro. De-tuned reworked V-Max engine. Nice bike nonetheless though.

stp1971 · 08-09-2007, 08:42 PM

Yeah,, the problem is I got more wants than I got dough.

robertc729 · 08-10-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Yeah,, the problem is I got more wants than I got dough.

Don't we all?

stp1971 · 08-13-2007, 01:43 PM

Although the 2008 Honda Goldwing Platinum sure is looking good. Might have to re-think the debt thing,,lol!!!

stp1971 · 08-28-2007, 01:52 PM

Here is a pic of us before the ride on the bike courtesy of Victory. Note the large amounts of room on the bike.

Rickster · 10-07-2007, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Here is a pic of us before the ride on the bike courtesy of Victory. Note the large amounts of room on the bike.

Nice pic,is it just me, or does J just keep getting prettier?

Of course she is sitting next to you Sean, and that might even make me look good.

Nice right up on the Victory. When's the big day? I seem to recall something about it being close to Thanksgiving.

**intimid8er** · 10-08-2007, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickster

Nice write up on the Victory.

Where's yours slick?

Did you miss the ride date, or did I miss your write up? I was looking forward to your impressions. If you posted it, and I missed it. I apologize!

07-30-2007, 02:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,742	First Ride- 2008 Victory Vision This past Saturday “J” and myself were fortunate enough to get a chance to ride the all new 2008 Victory Vision. Thanks to Intimid8er he gave me a heads up on the Vision tour and the opportunity to participate. If you go to Victory’s website you can register if openings are available in select cities throughout the country to test ride this beast. After arriving they give you a card that is good for one free picture of you and your S/O sitting on the bike in front of a huge American flag banner. Then you go to a twenty minute sales pitch telling you how great the bike is. The bike has an all new powerplant with a 106 cubic inch engine that produces approximately 95 horsepower and about 104 pounds of torque. The engine is a liquid and air cooled V-Twin. The torque band is down low for quick take offs and it has a great power curve. First glance at the bike and you think it is something off of the Bladerunner movies. It has a futuristic look to it but yet kinda retro as well. The bike has a huge “V” look to the front of it kind of edgy looking. The rear taillight has a signature “V” in the rear and if you opt for the tourer additional lights on the topcase. The price of the bike tested was about $24,200.00 with the available options installed. But the street version starts at about $18,000.00 and goes up from there. Sitting on the bike both the rider and the passenger have plenty of leg room and the ergo’s are great for the long haul. The rider can tuck his feet up underneath him or stretch them way out in front thanks to the huge almost two foot long floorboards. The rider has lower lumber support thanks to the increased pillion height which sets the rear pillion about 10 inches above the riders saddle. The handlebars are placed almost perfectly where your hands just lay on top of them. The pullbacks are almost two feet from the triple tree. Comfort is there. Gadgets galore. There are plenty of buttons, gauges, screens, tunes, and nick knacks to keep you occupied on the bike versus the road ahead. Plus the fact of the power windshield you too can ride down the road and raise and lower the windshield all day long. The bike I rode had the optional GPS (rebadged Garmin) with the upgraded stereo system. The GPS would broadcast the directions through the speakers as I was going down the road. I kept thinking it was “J” telling me to turn off course until I realized it wasn’t her. Mine also had heated grips and the HID headlights. You can also get an optional cb radio, heated seats, and more chrome accents. Stability. For a 850 pound dry tourer (800 pound for the street) the bike is very stable at low speeds and at higher speeds as well. I believe it probably has almost the lean angle of the Goldwing. It took me about ten minutes to get settled in the bike and get the hang of it. But I was soon leaning into some corners cautiously and testing the power of the engine on the interstate. Riding down the interstate I tried out the new gearbox that has a true 6th gear overdrive. At about 70 mph you can drop her into 6th and the revs of the big V-Twin almost disappear. Yet you still have plenty of power to get up and go without downshifting. Nice. The true cruise control is another great option the bike has on it. But with all good things you must point out the bad as well. So I will list the complaints several of us had after the ride below. 1. Transmission- Noisy, noisy, noisy. It not only clunks into all the gears but it has several inches of travel to upshift and downshift the bike. The days of short throw shifting are gone on this bike. Plus the fact that there is a huge gear whine at lower speeds until you get going fast enough to where the wind covers it up. The tranny also feels rough in the lower gear. Wasn’t too fond of the tranny on the bike. Loved the 6th gear overdrive but didn’t like the first five to get there. The passengers even complained that the transmissions vibes, clunks, and noise was quite evident to them as well. “J” even leaned forward and said this bike sure is noisey. 2. Heat Stroke- There is no airflow to the rider from the waist down. You will not get wet. But you will roast on the bike during the summer. It was a rainy, damp, wet 80 degree morning and the pipes on the bike roasted the riders right foot. They dump out right beside your ankle and the radiant heat will cook you. Even at highway speeds the feet don’t cool down. I didn’t have the lowers and they were still hot. The people with the lowers on their bikes were miserable. Now remember this was a 80 degree day. What will 95 degrees be like??? 3. Windshield- The shield all the way down was in my direct line of sight. With it up I was looking through it. With the rain that day the water kept rolling off the windshield and dumping right into my face. Not a good thing. Plus with the shield down the passenger kept saying they were getting a lot of buffeting. 4. Kickstand- Where is it???? When I took off I forgot to pick it up. No kill switch on the bike like all three of my others. So you can drop her in gear and go with the kickstand down. When I came to a stop I couldn’t find the thing. I looked and looked and tried to find it with my foot but to no avail. I had to ask “J” to drop it for me while she was standing beside the bike. I wasn’t the only one. Several people couldn’t find it either or had an extremely hard time finding it. With the huge floorboards they are tucked up under there out of sight. 5. Blindspots- the bike has several blindspots thanks to the huge fairing in the front. It also has nonadjustable mirrors that severely limit your rear vision. They are out there but none of us could figure out how to adjust them. If you can we didn’t want to try since it felt like we were about to break them. With the low seat height and the high rear passenger seat position coupled with the huge rear topcase it is really hard to see behind you. Now you may think I am bashing the bike but I am not. I really, really, really like the bike but I feel they need a few more years to work out these problems. Upon talking to one of the designers that was there he basically told us this was the production ready bike and there wasn’t a lot they could do about addressing these issues. Maybe after a few years they will get around to a design change so that they can legitimize fixing the current design. Will this be a good contender to the Goldwing or that class of bikes. Not for me but for the American Purist this gives them a great option now to buy versus going with the Wing. Now if they can address these issues and come up with a solution then I will give the bike a second look once again. But for now I will keep looking until I am at a point to where I can make that commitment on that high price of a bike. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________ Last edited by stp1971; 07-30-2007 at 03:01 PM.

07-30-2007, 02:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 27 44'17.07" N 82 45'20.16" W Sharkbait Posts: 9,115	Eh.....It's not perfect out of the gate....not many are. I never got the sense you were bashing the bike. Good job on a real honest assessment of how the bike works. That is what we do around here for each other! I'm a little bummed though. I had higher hopes for the bike being more ergo/user friendly. __________________ Song Pick of the Week 07/02 Gordon Lightfoot - Sundown Ever wonder if the Hokey-Pokey is what it's all about? I'm not foul mouthed. I just like to use the eff word. A LOT!

07-30-2007, 03:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,742	Me too. I had actually envisioned trading the LC in on it and me and "J" gallavanting across the coutryside. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

07-30-2007, 06:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
SoCalCruisin Found second gear by accident Joined: May 2006 Bike: 2005 Yamaha Midnight Royal Star Venture, 2005 Boulevard C50T (For Sale) Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 338	Thanks for that excellent "rider's review" of the new Victory Sean. It's out of my range for now, and I really wouldn't want the first year anyhow, but I've been looking forward to seeing and riding the Vision Tour since I saw the drawings of it. It seems we're gonna be last to get to ride it out here on the west coast. I found some of the points you brought up very interesting. Especially the heat issue and the rear view issue. I really can't wait to get hold of this bike. The low seat height is probably what I like the most. My current ride is just as heavy, but with a 29.5 inch seat height, it's trickier for me at low speeds. I'll keep my eyes out for test rides out here. Meanwhile, thanks again for your review. __________________

07-30-2007, 07:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Danr Sit speling cheker Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,614	unbiased opinion ? It's Fug UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07-30-2007, 08:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,742	and this coming from a Ducatti owner???? Just kidding,,it kinda grows on ya. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

07-30-2007, 09:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gumby Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Bike: Vstar 1100 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 11	I really like the futuristic look. But I am a Metric Cruiser lov'r. Hard to think of the Harley Cruiser crowd moving to this ultra-modern american made ride. Not much chance I would give up my current ride for it either!

07-31-2007, 12:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bowtie18 Third gear and cruising Joined: Oct 2004 Bike: 2006 Yamaha Road Star Midnight Location: Smyrna, DE Posts: 486	Great review. Not my style of bike, but I bet they iron out the kinks, and make a nice dent in the market with that ride. Victory makes some nice rides, and I'm sure this one will be a good seller! __________________

08-02-2007, 08:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
EasyE Ditch Magnet Joined: Aug 2006 Bike: 2006 M50 Blue Location: Lee's Summit, MO Posts: 184	Thanks for the review. I am one that likes the new and admires companies for taking a bold chance with styling. I was also very curious as to what it was really like. Now I've got a good idea and I don't have to listen to the sales pitch! Thanks again for a fair and well written review! __________________ Mine - '06 Blue M50, Cobra Streetrods Slashdowns, Kuryakan Hypercharger blue butterflys and inset, Cobra FI2000, OEM Billet backrest Hers - '06 C50c - Pearl white with ghost flames , Cobra Short backrest

08-04-2007, 12:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
HAMMERPETE In The Zone Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 HAMMER Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BITCHES Posts: 2,703	First off if any manufactor wants a true test of a auto or bike...STP is candidate to do it. His write up of the Vision was pretty fair in my mind. __________________ "There's not a whole lot ways this can go right" - Johnny Knoxsville "I did something in a previous life that must have been spectacularly good, because I'm getting paid in this life just magnificently, more than one would dare imagine or hope for." - RIP George Carlin.

08-06-2007, 07:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
Dave Nadeau TurtleWax Taster Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: 08 ElectraGlide ( IN Vivid Black)!!!!!!!!!! Location: Bridgewater, Ma Posts: 576	The new RIDER magazine has a great write up on the vision also. __________________ The faster I go the behinder I get..... US Navy 68-72 Amphibs, Little Creek, Va. "The Old Man"

08-09-2007, 08:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,742	Yeah,, the problem is I got more wants than I got dough. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-13-2007, 01:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,742	Although the 2008 Honda Goldwing Platinum sure is looking good. Might have to re-think the debt thing,,lol!!! __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-28-2007, 01:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,742	Here is a pic of us before the ride on the bike courtesy of Victory. Note the large amounts of room on the bike. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

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