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Scourge · 05-12-2005, 03:03 PM

Just flip the face shield, or look for chest movement if you are unsure about conciousness, hell give 'em the old titty-twister and look for any signs or response. The only problem w/ removing the helmet is that if you botch it and somehow injure the cord around C-2 then they may end up on a vent for life.

Ride-or-die · 05-12-2005, 04:44 PM

ive kinda missed this entire post, im a fully trained first aider!!

stevie c · 05-13-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ride-or-die

ive kinda missed this entire post, im a fully trained first aider!!

+1

skullman91 · 08-03-2005, 01:11 PM

im gonna print this out and put it with my registration under the seat, just incase anyone else has no clue what to do like me.. thanks guys

LayinLo · 08-03-2005, 01:59 PM

^^^ good idea

**inspiron** · 08-28-2005, 10:50 AM

So, yesterday I attended a "Notfallmedizinkurs für Motorradfahrer" (emergency medical training for motorcyclists). The 6 hour course was focused on first aid for motorcycle accidents. There was some basic theory, but most of the day was practical, hands-on training.

After watching a short video with crash tests showing motorcycle versus minivan, we discussed the kinds of injuries that can be expected, and how to keep seriously injured bikers alive until professional help arrives.

We started with how to put an unconscious (but breathing) person into the recovery position (on their side with their head slightly extended so that their airway remains open). We practiced this where the "victim" was found lying on their back and on their stomach.

We then had some (graphic) pictures of typical motorcycle injuries, including closed and open fractures, etc. (This was just after lunch ... not recommended).

We then learned how to remove someone's helmet while stabilizing the head and neck. This can be done when you are alone, but it is much easier when two people work together – one stabilizing the head and neck, and the other carefully removing the helmet.

Then we went on to rolling the "victim" from their back onto their side (recovery position) while stabilizing the spine – this requires at least three (better with four) people working together. Then the same exercise rolling the victim with their spine stabilized from their stomach onto their side.

The final exercise in this module was a "reality" situation. You have a victim unconscious, with a helmet on, lying on their stomach. The group (4 people) had to stabilize the spine, roll the victim onto their side and then onto their back, remove the helmet, and roll them back onto their side in the recovery position, while keeping the head, neck and spine immobile.

The afternoon wrapped up with a short discussion about HOW to report the accident - (the 4 W's – who, what, where and when), the ABC (airway, breathing and circulation) system and a short refresher for administering CPR.

As I wrote in the original post, if it's been a while since you last took a first-aid course, sign up for one TODAY!

Do you carry a first-aid kit on your bike? After the course, I looked at the kit I carry, and found that I need to make some adjustments ... if I come across an accident, I don't think those band-aids are going to do much good! All you really need is some rubber gloves, a foil blanket, a resuscitation mask and some large gauze pads and bandage wraps. I bought a compression bandage from the instructor – it was developed in Israel to deal with large bleeding wounds – and can be fixated quickly.

Now that I have all this stuff under my seat, I hope that I never need to use it!

Uechi Kid · 12-15-2005, 01:25 PM

Wow first aid/cpr. I haven't thought about a refresher course in years. What a great idea. Thanks

kbsnow · 09-25-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbird

dont freaking tourniquet limbs people think thats the best way to save some ones limbs. Its not if u kill the blood flow its very liky they will have to chop off the limb. Only tourniquet if its the last resort like ur in the woods and ur freind got shot in the leg and has massive blood loss and ur 10 miles away from a phone.

This statement is not totally true. In the US Army torniquets are used often and very safely. Civilian Docs use them during surgery for a few hours at a time and have very high success rates. In the right situation a tourniquet is the best and fastest way to save a limb not lose it.

**drgibson** · 09-25-2006, 02:45 PM

Ugghh thread revival. Post in the current pole please.

05-12-2005, 03:03 PM	#41 (permalink)
Scourge U.B's LoveChild Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: 2002 V-Star 650 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,253	Just flip the face shield, or look for chest movement if you are unsure about conciousness, hell give 'em the old titty-twister and look for any signs or response. The only problem w/ removing the helmet is that if you botch it and somehow injure the cord around C-2 then they may end up on a vent for life. __________________ I hate rude behavior in a man, won't tolerate it..

05-12-2005, 04:44 PM	#42 (permalink)
Ride-or-die Petrol Taster Joined: Oct 2004 Bike: 2000 GSXR-600 Location: ESSEX, England Posts: 751	ive kinda missed this entire post, im a fully trained first aider!! __________________ Both knees are good friends with Mr Road. they play everyday!!

08-03-2005, 01:11 PM	#44 (permalink)
skullman91 Kickstand Operator Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: 2000 suzuki marauder Location: Methuen, Massachusetts Posts: 253	im gonna print this out and put it with my registration under the seat, just incase anyone else has no clue what to do like me.. thanks guys __________________ SKULLMAN You wouldn't know what crazy was if charles manson was eating fruit loops on your front porch

08-28-2005, 10:50 AM	#46 (permalink)
inspiron Muscle Biker Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Blue Suzuki GSX 1400 (2003) Location: Canton Basel-Land, Switzerland (47.4493, 7.76536) Posts: 11,424	So, yesterday I attended a "Notfallmedizinkurs für Motorradfahrer" (emergency medical training for motorcyclists). The 6 hour course was focused on first aid for motorcycle accidents. There was some basic theory, but most of the day was practical, hands-on training. After watching a short video with crash tests showing motorcycle versus minivan, we discussed the kinds of injuries that can be expected, and how to keep seriously injured bikers alive until professional help arrives. We started with how to put an unconscious (but breathing) person into the recovery position (on their side with their head slightly extended so that their airway remains open). We practiced this where the "victim" was found lying on their back and on their stomach. We then had some (graphic) pictures of typical motorcycle injuries, including closed and open fractures, etc. (This was just after lunch ... not recommended). We then learned how to remove someone's helmet while stabilizing the head and neck. This can be done when you are alone, but it is much easier when two people work together – one stabilizing the head and neck, and the other carefully removing the helmet. Then we went on to rolling the "victim" from their back onto their side (recovery position) while stabilizing the spine – this requires at least three (better with four) people working together. Then the same exercise rolling the victim with their spine stabilized from their stomach onto their side. The final exercise in this module was a "reality" situation. You have a victim unconscious, with a helmet on, lying on their stomach. The group (4 people) had to stabilize the spine, roll the victim onto their side and then onto their back, remove the helmet, and roll them back onto their side in the recovery position, while keeping the head, neck and spine immobile. The afternoon wrapped up with a short discussion about HOW to report the accident - (the 4 W's – who, what, where and when), the ABC (airway, breathing and circulation) system and a short refresher for administering CPR. As I wrote in the original post, if it's been a while since you last took a first-aid course, sign up for one TODAY! Do you carry a first-aid kit on your bike? After the course, I looked at the kit I carry, and found that I need to make some adjustments ... if I come across an accident, I don't think those band-aids are going to do much good! All you really need is some rubber gloves, a foil blanket, a resuscitation mask and some large gauze pads and bandage wraps. I bought a compression bandage from the instructor – it was developed in Israel to deal with large bleeding wounds – and can be fixated quickly. Now that I have all this stuff under my seat, I hope that I never need to use it! __________________ blog: gsx1400

09-25-2006, 02:45 PM	#49 (permalink)
drgibson Thumper Mod Joined: Jul 2005 Bike: 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 Location: Dallas, Texas Directly above the center of the earth. Posts: 10,264	Ugghh thread revival. Post in the current pole please. __________________ Looking for better fuel economy? Consider a KLR... Better gas milage then a Prius or a Smart car, and it won't cost you an arm and a leg and your testosterone.

08-03-2005, 01:59 PM	#45 (permalink)
LayinLo Flipper ( Don't Ask ) Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Crunchy 02 GSX-R 750 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,936	^^^ good idea

12-15-2005, 01:25 PM	#47 (permalink)
Uechi Kid Fourth gear and illegal Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 04 M95, Yamaha VStar 650 Location: Antioch, Ca. Posts: 733	Wow first aid/cpr. I haven't thought about a refresher course in years. What a great idea. Thanks

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