Note to self: be vewy, vewy careful

[Hardware]

Based upon the one photo shown, we can't draw any conclusions as to how this collision occured.

[tlwisner]

Looking at the picture, the crosswalks in the background, and the many large SLOW signs on the pavement, I would guess that this is a dangerous area and the rider, if he had followed the advice of the SLOW signs would probably not have had the crash.

As it is, a beginner on a racing replica bike screws up and dies. Not the first time, not the last. Still sad, and avoidable. To you people who always want to blame the car for any accident, you better get out of denial and realize some riders go too fast and ride recklessly - and they contribute a lot to the cause of accidents.

Somebody here says "Ride like you own the road, and the road will own you." Here's another proof of that.

[Gixxerdale]

Originally Posted by tlwisner

Somebody here says "Ride like you own the road, and the road will own you." Here's another proof of that.

I've heard that before!

[Uncle Bob]

Now people, maybe he fell out of a helicopter or something, let's not jump to conclusions.

[jaydog19833]

I don't really think the biker was speeding or the car was either. That kinda crap can happen to anyone. Maybe the rider glanced at his speedo to slow down as he saw the SLOW sign and she didn't see him and cut him off. That damage would be worse if it was any faster than 30.

Ever WALKED into something? A closed door....lamp post....desk? It hits pretty hard for your walkind speed. Times that by about 15 and add about 370 pounds to your velocity. Slow speeds can hurt too.

PS. Man I hope I don't get in an accident. It seems like people always assume SOMEONE did something wrong or is inexperienced. Sometimes..........it just happens.

Also, funny pic. Too bad it's been over analyzed.

[GIXXER-Mike]

Originally Posted by jaydog19833

Maybe the rider glanced at his speedo to slow down as he saw the SLOW sign and she didn't see him and cut him off....Ever WALKED into something? A closed door....lamp post....desk? It hits pretty hard for your walkind speed. Times that by about 15 and add about 370 pounds to your velocity. Slow speeds can hurt too.

The Physicist has spoken ! j/k...couldn't pass it up.

I must agree that glancing down at that display for just a mili-second will cause everything in front of you to be totally different when you look back up. It's totally amazing...scary as heck sometimes too.

[tlwisner]

Originally Posted by jaydog19833

PS. Man I hope I don't get in an accident. It seems like people always assume SOMEONE did something wrong or is inexperienced. Sometimes..........it just happens.

Unless the rider is stuck by a meterorite while going down the road, then someone did something wrong. Two vehicles colliding is usually wrong.

The MSF class does a reasonably good job of teaching the cause of accidents, that they are generally a bad combination of causes coming together to create the collision.

If you are riding along through a bunch of crosswalks in an area with blind entrances and the word SLOW painted all over the street - and you're going too fast or not paying enough attention to avoid somebody pulling out, well, most will assume excessive speed and/or inexperience.

That does not mean that the car driver bears no responsibility. I can't really say anything about that. I can say that the rider bears the ultimate responsibility for his safety, and I will guess that there are things this rider could have done differently for a much better ride that day.

I agree wholeheartedly with jaydog, I hope none of us get into any accidents. There are a lot of things you can do to better the odds of avoiding an accident, and there are things you can do to better the odds of surviving an accident.

My only motorcycle accident (so far, knoking on wood...) occured years ago while I was driving a '78 Pontiac (not Triumph) Bonneville. A guy on a KZ1000 ran through a stop sign at speed from a side street onto a major street and hit me in the front fender. We were next to the University of Kentucky Medical Center and that's where he went on a backboard. If this guy had slowed down for the stop sign, or even maybe stopped, he could have avoided that accident. On a sunny day, a '78 Pontiac (large sedan) Bonneville does not hide well.

[jaydog19833]

I came up with a real philosophy to what happened with these two.

The lady was in her late 90's and didn't notice when the motorcycle hit the side of her. She drove about 15 minutes until a cop pulled her over to tell her she had a motorcycle stuck to the side of her car. She retorts, "I didn't see him officer."

The officer replies, "Just be more careful next time" and pulls the bike off the side.

She was not given a ticket because, "She's just an old lady. She didn't know."


P.S.

The physicist Has spoken.

I have been called jesus before (Novaz23 called me that)