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Old 10-25-2004, 02:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 10-25-2004, 11:03 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Got it - no/not much breaking in a corner.

what if the curves are one right after the other downhill and you can't put much power on cause momentum is moving you faster down the road rather than throttle.

It seems to this newbie that you must break ever so slightly in there somewhere i.e. just as you come out of one curve and lean into the next. Otherwise one would obviously be going too fast by the time you reached the bottom.

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I failed my first motorcycle driving test because of that situation ... an "S" curve downhill. I was fine entering the first curve, but picked up speed in the middle and had to hit the rear brake while rolling from the left to the right. The inspector failed me because I didn't see the situation earlier and scrub off even more speed before entering the first curve.

Basically, if your are a noobie - follow the recommendations that Hough writes in his books - Slow, Look, Lean, Turn. Scrub off the speed, look through the curve, lean the bike and roll through the curve with just a touch of throttle. If you are more experienced, you can try doing some trail braking - it does tend to stand the bike up (widening your turn).

But as Rowdy said in another thread ... if you have traction available for braking, you also have traction available to lean farther ... you just have to have your brain take over from your instincts that are screaming "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!"
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Old 10-26-2004, 11:38 AM   #24 (permalink)
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But as Rowdy said in another thread ... if you have traction available for braking, you also have traction available to lean farther ... you just have to have your brain take over from your instincts that are screaming "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!"
Exactly, if you THINK about it:
Braking puts weight on the front tyre
A bit of throttle puts weight on the rear.

Now look at the width of the front and the rear, where do you want the weight to be ?

What you don't want is a blocking tyre, wether it be the front or rear, as soon as the tyre blocks, the gyroscopic effect that keeps the bike "upright" (as far as you can say upright, leaning into a corner)
becomes zero, instant wipe-out
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