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| Sprocket Pilot ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
Bike: 2004 Hayabusa
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 843
| Long post - sorry. Last Saturday, my wife had arranged to go shopping with a friend outside the city. She was going to travel in the other woman’s car to help with her (the other woman’s) twins. At the last minute I decided to follow on my bike. The plan was to carry on past the shopping area, check out the roads near the coastline and meet them back at the shopping centre for lunch. We made it out of the city and traveled 20 or so kms on the expressway. A kilometer or so before the appropriate exit, I moved out of the high-speed lane and into the far left lane preparing to take the exit. I was in the left portion of the slow lane traveling with traffic and was moments from exiting when a Mercedes station wagon blitzed past me, in my lane. I routinely scan my mirrors and I never saw this idiot coming. He blasted past me and exited the expressway ahead of me. He went by so close (easily within a foot) that he would have normally forced me to swerve, except he went by so fast I had no time to react. I stayed calm and decided I wouldn’t let that idiot get to me. I slowed and when I saw which lane he was taking at the tollgate, I ensured I took the lane farthest away from him. I paused a bit longer than normal at the tolls trying to get my money out of my jacket with gloves on. I left the toll and now had to merge with another roadway. My wife and friend were now well ahead of me (they never witnessed the first encounter when I was exiting the expressway). I matched the speed of the traffic and merged without incident. A short distance after this, I had to merge into another lane to avoid going back onto the expressway. I again matched my speed with the traffic and did a couple of shoulder checks. I noted a car behind me (in the lane I needed to merge into) and observed that I was slowly outpacing it. There was also sufficient distance for me to safely merge in front of it. I did one last shoulder check and started to change lanes. I had just crossed the line when the car screamed past me, this time passing within a couple of inches. I immediately swerved to the right to avoid the car. This was the closest call I’ve ever had. Sure enough, it was the same silver Mercedes wagon. I had been outpacing him moments before, he must have pinned the throttle to the floor to blow past me – all in order to carry on straight. Our friend driving ahead of me saw the second near miss in her rearview mirror. I guess she thought for a second that I'd been knocked off the bike. Luckily my wife didn’t. Traffic was stopping for a red light ahead, (including our friend’s car with my wife). The Mercedes was in the lane beside them and was at the head of the line. I had let the first near miss go, but after the second one within a minute, I was pretty mad. I lane-split and rode up to the car. His windows were up but I pointed at him and cursed him out. I also indicated that I felt he was #1 in my book. He looked at me in utter confusion like he’d done nothing wrong. That actually made me madder – he was that bloody oblivious to his surroundings. After awhile he got mad and reciprocated his belief that I was #1 in his book. He even opened his door to get out but then reconsidered. This may have had something to do with our relative physical statures. Anyway, the girls in the car wrote down his plate info and we’re thinking about lodging a complaint through the Japanese government. WHAT I LEARNED: 1. I guess I shouldn't have confronted the idiot - however in Japan it's relatively safe to do so, compared to say, anywhere in the USA. 2. It doesn't matter how defensive you are when riding, we need eyes in the back of our heads.
__________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons...for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. |
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| Sprocket Pilot ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
Bike: 2004 Hayabusa
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 843
| No, not a squid. He was a middle aged man, driving with his teenaged son in the front and his wife in the back (that's typical in Japan).
__________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons...for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. |
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| Tin Foil Inspector ![]() | Idiots are everywhere in every race and in every country. Not simply limited to the USA which alot of people would like to belive. I didn't know you lived in Japan, I think that's awesome. I want to go there to snowboard and just experience the culture. I got hookups but so far not enough money even with them
__________________ The notion should be deleted from your noggin. -FIVEINCH |
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| Administrator ![]() Joined: Sep 2003
Bike: SV650S '05 (Blue)
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
Posts: 10,652
| That's where the reevu helmnet would come in handy. Anyone heard more about that helmet? We had a guy a long time ago from that company who talked about his helmet. http://www.reevu.com/motorsports.asp
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| Moderatrix ![]() Joined: Mar 2004
Bike: 2004 SV650S
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 2,700
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__________________ SuzukiGirl '04 SV650S, Yellow...lovely!! | |
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| Banned ![]() Joined: Dec 2003
Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black)
Location: Memphis
Posts: 11,423
| Yes!! I'm not the only one willing to call someone on their stupidity! One mistake (albeit a really bad one), and I can let it go. Two mistakes . . . obviously one of the selfish drivers out there. Son in the front and wife in the back? WTF? That's no way to show the woman you love respect! She goes through 9 months of discomfort, capped off with a whole day of excruciating pain, and the son sits up front? What'd he do to gain respect? Get born as a boy instead of a girl? Yeah . . . THAT takes some doing |
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| Moderatrix ![]() Joined: Mar 2004
Bike: 2004 SV650S
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 2,700
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I'm sure Hardware can fill us in, but I was told that people easily drop thousands of US $ in one night at the bars, and that Japanese men frequently get prostitutes, etc in the bars. Hardware...can you add more?
__________________ SuzukiGirl '04 SV650S, Yellow...lovely!! | |
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| Administrator ![]() Joined: Sep 2003
Bike: SV650S '05 (Blue)
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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| Seat Tester | I deal with idiots like that all day long driving towtruck. Perhaps not the most compassionate thing to say, but every once in a while, if you drive enough, you see their actions get the best of them, and they get whats coming to them. (Especially if your driving for coffee at 2:00 am in the morning, lol...)
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| Throttle Jockey ![]() Joined: Apr 2004
Bike: '05 Boulevard C50
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 3,208
| Perhaps you should have been riding in the right slot of your lane, Japanese roads being where you drive on the left. This is referred to as lane control. Riding in the slot of your lane near the edge of the road is sometimes seen by stupid cagers as you ceding the right to your lane, as when bicycles ride along the edge of the road. You are more visible in lane when you are closer to the lane divider line. Cagers are frequently stupid, riders need to do what they can to maximize visibility.
__________________ Tim Wisner AMA, SCRC Happiness is something we create |
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| Muscle Biker ![]() | My instructor recommended that I take the middle of the lane, especially on the motorway. If I'm too far left, I put myself at risk by the cages passing me, and if I am too far right, they cages may try to co-habitate my lane. There are some sections of motorway nearby that have deep (like 3 to 4 inches deep, about about 1 foot wide) troughs caused by the 28-ton trucks that drive in that lane. The only place to ride is in the middle, where the lane is somewhat level. If you drift 2 feet to the left or right, you risk dropping the bike at 75mph - not a pleasant thought. We also had alot of discussions about exting the motorway - how to get over onto the exit lane without being run off the road by a brainless cager. Basically, you have to act like you are wide (ride like you have a sidecar next to you), and take the whole lane. But, at the end of the day, no matter what happens, you have to think for everyone, since most caged creatures tend to leave their brains in neutral.
__________________ ![]() ![]() There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe blog: gsx1400 |
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| Where Am I ? Joined: Mar 2004
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| Sprocket Pilot ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
Bike: 2004 Hayabusa
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 843
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As for the ladies of the night - Japanese culture is different from the West. Japanese businessmen and salarymen are expected to socialize more as part of doing business. Hostesses are common in many upscale establishments and Japanese wives are expected to turn a blind eye.
__________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons...for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. | ||
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| Site Admin & Squeegee Boy ![]() Joined: Dec 1969
Bike: 2003 Volusia SE
Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Posts: 107
| Riding in the left third of the lane ( in right hand drive countries ) is the prefered method showed by MSF. This way you take control of the lane, are more visible to drivers in passing lanes, are more visible to oncoming trafic, are more visible in the mirors of the guy in front of you and keeps you off the center of the road where oil and other fluids from vehicles accumulates.
__________________ Yadda yadda yadda, whatever, they ain't going to listen anyway. |
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| Forensic Bug Splatter Analyst. ![]() | Quote:
Over the years I've noticed that if I am in the 1/3 of the lane directly in front of a car behind me, they give me much more distance normally. In the right 1/3 they are usually ready to kiss my tailpipe because I'm not a concern directly in front of them. Drifting left and then back to the right will usually cause them to back off to a safe distance. In LA traffic, it is sometimes safer to be in the right 1/3 of the fast lane because the gap between lanes is the only escape route if you need it. Many freeways have no left shoulder to the left of the fast lane. Any attempt to avoid something in that direction places you immidiately into a 30 inch tall concrete barrier. The other option is to get squished between two cars! Just my humble opinion from riding around for the past few (32) years. Most of the time I am in the left 1/3. Never the center, especially when it hasn't rained here in a while. It becomes an oil slick! OK, I'm done in the basement now!
__________________ Proud Father of a U S Army Soldier... The key to life is to die young...at a very old age... Ride like you own the road...and...someday the road will own you.. My Favorite Ride? Tomorrows! | |
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| What makes you say that? ![]() Joined: Dec 2003
Bike: 2002 Bandit 1200 S
Location: St. Cloud, MN, USA
Posts: 616
| Dale! What are you doing down there?! Get up here and stay out of the cellar!
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| Forensic Bug Splatter Analyst. ![]() | Quote:
__________________ Proud Father of a U S Army Soldier... The key to life is to die young...at a very old age... Ride like you own the road...and...someday the road will own you.. My Favorite Ride? Tomorrows! | |
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