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Ext1jdh · 12-26-2007, 08:39 AM

I'd like to offer some new terms.

KA's. A precise measurement of how many asses a particular bike is able to kick. Measurement is based on a simple equation: HP*Torque/how many years the rider has been riding. Obviously, the math breaks down if the rider has never ridden since you can't divide by 0. This also means the measurement is subjective, but it allows for trend reporting. An '06 GSX-R 600 would produce 1290.55 KA's.

Woohoos. The amount of vibration a motorcycle has at a certain speed. Lower is better.

**intimid8er** · 12-26-2007, 08:53 AM

FWIW A Buell 900 has only about 70-75 rwhp, and that is with mods. (American Sportbike Exhaust Shootout)

A Buell 1200 is in the 90-104 category.

And varying reports of the 1125R are anywhere from 142-156 depending on the publication and method of measurement (Rear wheel, and/or crank.)

Fishpart · 12-26-2007, 02:36 PM

Great article! Thanks for sharing!

MikeHump · 12-28-2007, 10:13 AM

Good article. I'll admit, I got a sportbike for a lot of those (horrible) reasons posted. But I think it all depends on the person, and their state of mind about riding. If a person wants to get a motorcycle for the sole purpose of going fast, and they just start off on a sportbike, then that is a bad choice, they'll probably die or get very hurt in the learning process. But, in my case I enjoy speed and agility, but I'm not obsessed with either. I know that there is a right time and place for everything, and definitely a wrong time and place for everything. As long as you can realize that and differentiate between these times and places, then you should be alright. But not everyone can do that. So, I do agree that sportbikes aren't for beginners, however I love riding and I believe it's partly because of the style of bike that I ride. And although I have only been riding for a little over 1,000 miles now, looking back I wouldn't have chosen a different bike, even after reading this article. I would only have more respect for the machine that's between my legs. Thanks for the article, very informational. I learned a lot from it.

jprisme · 12-30-2007, 11:29 AM

i am new to this board so if i am doing something wrong i apologize. but i have learned the hard way. i have a gsxr 1000 and well that is my first street bike. i road dirt bike and thought it would be similiar but other than shifting its not. i fell my second day and thank goodness for sliders. i wish i would have read this before i bought the bike. i am 19 years old so if anyone is reading this board and trying to figure out what bike to get, dont try to have the biggest balls, because you will possible be hurting yourself or killing yourself in the end

kay · 12-30-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jprisme

i am new to this board so if i am doing something wrong i apologize. but i have learned the hard way. i have a gsxr 1000 and well that is my first street bike. i road dirt bike and thought it would be similiar but other than shifting its not. i fell my second day and thank goodness for sliders. i wish i would have read this before i bought the bike. i am 19 years old so if anyone is reading this board and trying to figure out what bike to get, dont try to have the biggest balls, because you will possible be hurting yourself or killing yourself in the end

Good one, Jacques.

Be smart AND careful with that bike. It is a great bike, but worth nothing if you end up killed or hurt bad.

**Clint** · 12-30-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jprisme

...i have learned the hard way.

Big of you to admit your mistakes. Welcome to M-J.

jprisme · 12-31-2007, 10:20 PM

thanks you guys. on a good note happy new year to yall.

12-26-2007, 08:39 AM	#41 (permalink)
Ext1jdh Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: Sold Location: Elgin, IL, US Posts: 5,226	I'd like to offer some new terms. KA's. A precise measurement of how many asses a particular bike is able to kick. Measurement is based on a simple equation: HP*Torque/how many years the rider has been riding. Obviously, the math breaks down if the rider has never ridden since you can't divide by 0. This also means the measurement is subjective, but it allows for trend reporting. An '06 GSX-R 600 would produce 1290.55 KA's. Woohoos. The amount of vibration a motorcycle has at a certain speed. Lower is better. __________________ I am lurking. I am likely to be eaten by a grue.

12-26-2007, 08:53 AM	#42 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 30 41'47.99" N 83 11'26.54" W Hold My Beer Posts: 9,568	FWIW A Buell 900 has only about 70-75 rwhp, and that is with mods. (American Sportbike Exhaust Shootout) A Buell 1200 is in the 90-104 category. And varying reports of the 1125R are anywhere from 142-156 depending on the publication and method of measurement (Rear wheel, and/or crank.) __________________ Song Pick of the Week 09/03 Buckcherry - Too Drunk To F..... (NSFW) <Insert nothing original in this space>

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12-26-2007, 02:36 PM	#43 (permalink)
Fishpart Fourth gear and illegal Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: 2007 Harley Davidson Electa Glide Location: York, Pa Posts: 765	Great article! Thanks for sharing!

12-28-2007, 10:13 AM	#44 (permalink)
MikeHump Found second gear by accident Joined: Oct 2007 Bike: 2007 GSXR 600 Location: Tracy, CA Posts: 345	Good article. I'll admit, I got a sportbike for a lot of those (horrible) reasons posted. But I think it all depends on the person, and their state of mind about riding. If a person wants to get a motorcycle for the sole purpose of going fast, and they just start off on a sportbike, then that is a bad choice, they'll probably die or get very hurt in the learning process. But, in my case I enjoy speed and agility, but I'm not obsessed with either. I know that there is a right time and place for everything, and definitely a wrong time and place for everything. As long as you can realize that and differentiate between these times and places, then you should be alright. But not everyone can do that. So, I do agree that sportbikes aren't for beginners, however I love riding and I believe it's partly because of the style of bike that I ride. And although I have only been riding for a little over 1,000 miles now, looking back I wouldn't have chosen a different bike, even after reading this article. I would only have more respect for the machine that's between my legs. Thanks for the article, very informational. I learned a lot from it.

12-30-2007, 11:29 AM	#45 (permalink)
jprisme Ditch Magnet Joined: Dec 2007 Bike: gsxr 1000 2007 Location: los angeles Posts: 174	i am new to this board so if i am doing something wrong i apologize. but i have learned the hard way. i have a gsxr 1000 and well that is my first street bike. i road dirt bike and thought it would be similiar but other than shifting its not. i fell my second day and thank goodness for sliders. i wish i would have read this before i bought the bike. i am 19 years old so if anyone is reading this board and trying to figure out what bike to get, dont try to have the biggest balls, because you will possible be hurting yourself or killing yourself in the end

12-31-2007, 10:20 PM	#48 (permalink)
jprisme Ditch Magnet Joined: Dec 2007 Bike: gsxr 1000 2007 Location: los angeles Posts: 174	thanks you guys. on a good note happy new year to yall.

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