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| TurtleWax Taster ![]() | I havent been riding for a long time but I am learning a little bit. I have no problem scraping pegs at 45 mph but yesterday I scraped at 70 and it scared the stuff out of me. I really didnt feel confortable leaning that much at that speed. Is there more of a chance of breaking traction at 70 rather than 40 or am I just being a chicken?
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| It's A Conspiracy ![]() Joined: May 2005
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| ![]() Nah....just kiddin' man!!! Seriously. At the risk of sounding like some abstract Jedi Master. Only you know the answer to your question. Yes there are physical limits of adhesion. Yes there are forces of physics at work. Yes things could go wrong. The biggest problem you have though is worring about that peg mount catching the ground and levering the front tire off the ground. If your slinging a cruiser around corners that fast, try moving your weight to the inside of the seat in the corner.
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| I took the All Bran Challenge ![]() Joined: Jun 2005
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| Bridal Boutique Manager ![]() Joined: Oct 2005 Location: St Paul Mn
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| Not only is there more danger, but if you do lose traction, you are going to slide a lot further, or if you hit something, stop a lot faster, as in sudden impact. Same lean angle at higher speed means more G forces. Sport bike tires have a different rubber compuond, and will grip better, but you put enough force on anything, and it will slip, slide, move, whatever.
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| What makes you say that? ![]() Joined: Dec 2003
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| You won't break traction with your limited lean angle unless you're doing something stupid such as braking or "pushing the bike down", meaning you have backward riding position. Like Inspiron said, you should shift your butt inside and lean slightly, as if trying to kiss your inside mirror. This is not the same as "hanging off" a racebike, so don't feel like you're being wreckless. It's just good riding technique.
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| I took the All Bran Challenge ![]() Joined: Jun 2005
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| Taking a curve reduces the contact patch of your tires, abrout changes such as chaging gears or slamming on the brakes can cause sever problems. Set your self up with shifting and or braking before the curve. Slow in, power out. A gentle braking in the curve will work if at the same time you increase the lean angle. Applying brakes, even gently will stand the bike upright increasing the radius of the turn, not good in most cases. A steep lean angle leaves you with little room for correction. A race track has a surface that is clean, better corner visability. A curve/corner on a road may have hidden hazzard. The idiot making a u-turn, the rider on a horse, the rider on a bike on the wrong side of the road, a semi taking the turn in your lane. The ladies walking their dogs taking up most of your lane. The farm tractor travelling at 10 kms an hour. I have had each of these in the past couple of months. The gravel truck, backing into a driveway, on a blind curve, taking up both lanes, was the one that had me shaking. Last edited by blackie1491; 09-04-2006 at 01:11 PM. |
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| It's A Conspiracy ![]() Joined: May 2005
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| Quote:
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| Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer ![]() | I'm surprised nobody touch on this before. Not to judge, but maybe, and I say maybe 'cause I don't have all the facts, but... Scraping pegs on a Rebel or any other type cruiser tells you may be taking the corner a bit too aggressively. I would say that you might want to consider slowing down and staying within your abilities. But like others said if you're gonna do it (it happens), stay with it. Don't let off or hit the brakes. Roll the throttle a little to keep you suspension stiff, and you will tke it through to the end. Sorry if I sound condesending. Just want you to stay safe.
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| What makes you say that? ![]() Joined: Dec 2003
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| Sorry! Skimming past, your usernames look similar.
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| Muscle Biker ![]() | I think I know the difference...
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| Quiche' King ![]() Joined: Jun 2005
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| I don't think you have anything to worry about with just the pegs scraping. Start worrying when the pipes scrape the ground (BTDT). That's when you know you have gone toooo far.
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