First time poster, and a few questions.

[intimid8er]

My other favorite in the same vein as the Gixxer 1000 was one guy showing his buddy his brand new Sportster. They're tear assing up and down a neighborhood street. One guy fails to negotiate a gentle curve properly in a subdivision, and gets his head torn off by a mail box.

Again from not knowing how to react.

So what are you gonna do when you hit a pothole, your wrist twists that throttle, and the front wheel comes up in the air? Or takes off like a bat out of hell at the most inopportune moment possible? (Like mid-corner, and it shoots you into the next lane into the path of a car, ditch, telephone pole, or tree.)

[Brian360]

So if i were to invest in a beater bike to learn on, I'm not equally in harms way?

Would taking the MSF course be enough to "start" to learn on it? Its not like I live in the city, I have plenty of roads to putt around on.

I'm leaning towards not getting it as I've been 50/50 with it from the beginning, Just always wanted a bike and I think this is a bad-as$ bike.

[Clint]

Well, it is a bad-ass bike, and if you take the MSF beginner course on it there's a good chance you'll tip that bad-ass bike over in the parking lot in front of a bunch of other new riders. They use 250s for a reason.

[Brian360]

Originally Posted by intimid8er

My other favorite in the same vein as the Gixxer 1000 was one guy showing his buddy his brand new Sportster. They're tear assing up and down a neighborhood street. One guy fails to negotiate a gentle curve properly in a subdivision, and gets his head torn off by a mail box.

Again from not knowing how to react.

So what are you gonna do when you hit a pothole, your wrist twists that throttle, and the front wheel comes up in the air? Or takes off like a bat out of hell at the most inopportune moment possible? (Like mid-corner, and it shoots you into the next lane into the path of a car, ditch, telephone pole, or tree.)

Highly-doubt that "pothole wrist twist" will make a stretched bike "up in the air"

Guys, I'm not 14 years old. Thanks for your insights however, but all of these horror stories will not affect the fact I want a bike.

However, I think I'm gonna stay away from this bike as it is far to powerful for anything that I'd have any use for.

[Brian360]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Well, it is a bad-ass bike, and if you take the MSF beginner course on it there's a good chance you'll tip that bad-ass bike over in the parking lot in front of a bunch of other new riders. They use 250s for a reason.

Do they supply beater bikes to learn on? Or do you bring your own bike?

[Ext1jdh]

Brian, try to take this the way I mean it...

Don't get it, because your life is worth more than that bike. If you want something like the 1000, then start out on a 250 or 500 sporty styled bike. The most important thing that must be learned is control. A large bike like the gsx-r 1000 is physically to large and heavy as well as too powerful to control as a new rider.

It doesnt matter how slow you start riding at, you simply do not have the necessary control over a bike that large, this early in your riding career.

If you are dead set on getting this bike, then go for it. Do yourself a favor and get a used 250 or 500 and ride that for a year though and garage the 1000.

We want to see you on this forum for years to come, but we dont want to read about you in a crash, or worse, having killed yourself on a bike that is way too big.

If you could plan for accidents then they wouldnt be called accidents. They are preventable though - through practice and control.

And for the love of god, take the MSF course before you do anything.

[Ext1jdh]

Originally Posted by Brian360

Highly-doubt that "pothole wrist twist" will make a stretched bike "up in the air"

You have obviously never ridden a supersport.
This bike has more power than you can imagine. You can be riding along the highway at 80 mph and pop one up until you hit 200.

Stay
Away
until you learn the basics.

[Brian360]

Originally Posted by Ext1jdh

Brian, try to take this the way I mean it...

Don't get it, because your life is worth more than that bike. If you want something like the 1000, then start out on a 250 or 500 sporty styled bike. The most important thing that must be learned is control. A large bike like the gsx-r 1000 is physically to large and heavy as well as too powerful to control as a new rider.

It doesnt matter how slow you start riding at, you simply do not have the necessary control over a bike that large, this early in your riding career.

If you are dead set on getting this bike, then go for it. Do yourself a favor and get a used 250 or 500 and ride that for a year though and garage the 1000.

We want to see you on this forum for years to come, but we dont want to read about you in a crash, or worse, having killed yourself on a bike that is way too big.

If you could plan for accidents then they wouldnt be called accidents. They are preventable though - through practice and control.

And for the love of god, take the MSF course before you do anything.

I plan on taking some kinda of course. Whether it be MSF or not, I do want this bike though. But I'll stay away from it, unless someone can trade me their 600 for it

[intimid8er]

Originally Posted by Brian360

So if i were to invest in a beater bike to learn on, I'm not equally in harms way?

Yes. There is always danger lurking around every corner, in every straightaway, in every intersection whenever you suit up. No matter if you are riding a Faggio 50 scooter or a Hayabusa.

Originally Posted by Brian360

Would taking the MSF course be enough to "start" to learn on it? Its not like I live in the city, I have plenty of roads to putt around on.

I'm leaning towards not getting it as I've been 50/50 with it from the beginning, Just always wanted a bike and I think this is a bad-as$ bike.

MSF is a place to start. However, again, that bike is not. The skills you garner on a smaller displacement ride, make riding the bigger bike that more enjoyable. Any rider worth their salt, can whip the ever lovin dogsh*t outta a poser any day on a closed course with a small displacement bike. Any idiot can drive in a straight line (I'm not calling you or your friends idiots), it takes a real pilot to get through corners, (and that is the funnest part of riding).

Read some of our advice, look up some stats on rider crashes, you'll see where we are going with this. If you take our advice, you'll be a rider for life, not a once upon a time rider.

Consider this. Let's say you trade your car for this bike. The bike causes you to soil your britches, now you want out. You're out a nice car, you have to deal with the hassle of getting another ride, and get rid of the scoot. If you got a passing interest in motorcycles. Scrape up a couple of grand. Find out if it is for you. Sell the bike when you want to quit or move up. Any number of small displacement starter bikes barely lose their value, and sell quickly. It's a win win proposition, and you become a far better rider than the guy that buys the Gixxer 1000 and promises himself and whatever god he prays to that he'll be careful on it.

[drgibson]

Originally Posted by Brian360

Highly-doubt that "pothole wrist twist" will make a stretched bike "up in the air"

Guys, I'm not 14 years old. Thanks for your insights however, but all of these horror stories will not affect the fact I want a bike.

However, I think I'm gonna stay away from this bike as it is far to powerful for anything that I'd have any use for.

Bryan that stretched bike has also been regeared it improve the acceleration. Stretching a bike with that much power doesn't prevent the front wheel from comming off the ground. It only slows it slightly. If I can get the front wheel of my 650lb cruiser off the ground. Be assured that that R rated bike will wheelie without much effort.

Any R rated bike be it a 600 or 1000 is still way too much bike.

[Ext1jdh]

The 600 also has plenty of oomph. You may have better luck finding a used GS500F. It's more of a starter bike with plenty of room to grow on, and it has similar styling to the larger sport bikes. Since it is a smaller bike and has a bit of a starter reputation, people tend to be more ready to sell them over the 600.

There are a few folks around the board that ride the GS, check em out. There's tons of good info around.

[Brian360]

Why is it so hard to drive? Is it bike specific or do most of the sports-bikes a PITA to learn to ride? Gotta start somewhere fellas. I can't see dumping another two grand into learning to ride something that I've got 5 grand in...

I'll hook a briggs%stratton on the back and ride around in the yard and cut the grass

Edit: i'm loving the advice fellas.

[intimid8er]

Originally Posted by Brian360

Why is it so hard to drive? Is it bike specific or do most of the sports-bikes a PITA to learn to ride? Gotta start somewhere fellas. I can't see dumping another two grand into learning to ride something that I've got 5 grand in...

I'll hook a briggs%stratton on the back and ride around in the yard and cut the grass

Edit: i'm loving the advice fellas.

Here's a question for you.

Pretend you are on a bike. You are going a sedate 35 mph. A corner is approaching. Not a sharp one. Probably a 30-35 mph corner.

How would you negotiate the turn?

[Ext1jdh]

Thats not fair, he's a new rider.

slpr

[intimid8er]

Originally Posted by Ext1jdh

Thats not fair, he's a new rider.

slpr

Well Hells Bells! Everybody knows it's just as easy and the same as riding a Schwinn!

Right???

[Brian360]

Originally Posted by intimid8er

Here's a question for you.

Pretend you are on a bike. You are going a sedate 35 mph. A corner is approaching. Not a sharp one. Probably a 30-35 mph corner.

How would you negotiate the turn?

I've got common sense though and I'm a new rider, have no taken a course yet.

I'd say that I would remain at 35 MPH and lean the bike into the curve and go on about my business. Pivot upper torso in the curve.....

How many miles can you get out of these bikes?

[Ext1jdh]

Slow
Look
Press
Roll

Slow as you approach the turn. Look in the direction you want to turn. Press the handlebar in the direction of the turn (countersteering). Roll the throttle through the turn.

[Brian360]

and about the mileage?

[drgibson]

Brian,
A little story. I have been riding since 1967. I have owned everything from dirt bikes to R rated sporties. When I bought my most current bike I could have just as easily (cheaper in fact) bought an R rated sport bike. Why didn't I? Because they require so much more finesse then a cruiser or something like a Katana. When you ask a cruiser to speed up, turn, or slow down that is what it does. When you think the same things on an r rated bike it has already done it.
This isn’t about age or maturity, it is about skills. Skills are developed over time. There is no replacing experience. Only seat time can develop the proper reactions required to evade an accident. However I will say that a mature person will see the soundness of the advice being offered and consider it thoughtfully. There is no way a beginner has the skill set to take on the power and nimbleness of any R rated bike.

[viper94bite]

Originally Posted by drgibson

When you ask a cruiser to speed up, turn, or slow down that is what it does. When you think the same things on an r rated bike it has already done it.

I like that. I don't know if it can be put better.