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B-Rex · 03-20-2008, 03:39 PM

This was discussed for bikes in general in another thread. However, this is more detailed and I'm also curious about the expected outcome of the changes others might be making. For my Bee:

1) Timing Retardation Elimintator (gi-pro TRE). This allows full power in all gears and overrides Suzuki's pre-programmed ECU timing retardation. From the reports this "fixes" the slight 1/4 mile disparity between the 'Busa and the Bee. Some have even speculated that it will give a slight 1/4 mile advantage to the Bee due to the Bee's existing low-end power bias in intake and exhaust systems.

Additionally, gi-pro includes a gear position indicator that always reads the correct gear whether or not the TRE is switched on or off. Cheaper TREs, when "on" cause the built-in gear indicator to always read 4th gear (on the Bee....5th gear on most other Suzukis).

Another issue with a TRE is the effect it has on engine warm-up. The gi-pro is switchable and can be turned off for start and warm-up and/or for innappropriate road conditions (e.g. rain, casual riding, commuting, etc.)

2) Micron Carbon Fiber exhaust cans. Reportedly give up to a 7hp, 4.7 ft./lb. boost to the Bee without affecting low-end power or needing the addition of a PCIII. Saves about 11 lbs. At about $1500, this will probably have to wait until next year.

3) PCIII if the current testing and mapping indicates an advantage. Right now the jury is still out. Stay tuned (so to speak). Some folks maintain that the 2008 B-King and 'Busa ECUs are Suzuki's absolute best yet. Allegedly highly adaptable and able to handle many hardware upgrades without requiring re-mapping by a PCIII. Time will tell.

4) Windscreen. Right now the Bee's headlight shroud allows for acceptable wind blast at highway speeds. Much over 75-80 mph and it begins to feel pretty ferocious. The new screen (somewhat larger than a flyscreen) is supposed to improve blast without increasing head buffeting.

5) Carbon fiber airboxes. Maybe not much of a performance improvement (supposedly more "ram" effect at higher speeds....not that it would be very useful), but a definite appearance and weight improvement.

That's it for the actual mods that "tweak" performance. The rest I've made are for comfort and/or electronics.

B-Rex

Max Speed · 03-31-2008, 07:02 PM

I'm going to keep the mufflers, I thought of changing but I like people's reaction. I took my B-King into the City where I work and got a kick out of some people looking at the bike and saying "What the hell it that?" Its one of a kind and unless I go turbo Im going to keep it the way it is for now. I am going to get a TRE for the King soon.

B-Rex · 04-01-2008, 12:28 AM

I gotta agree....it's part of the fun of owning a Bee. Plus, I like the fact that nothing else has pipes like that.

The Microns are pretty close in appearance. It's just going to be a while until I'm ready to pony up $1500.

The gi-pro TRE is next on my list too. I keep hearing good things regarding it and the 1/4 mile times. Now I'm really curious.

B-Rex

Alex13 · 04-09-2008, 10:16 PM

Max Speed, I bet that thing is loud with that pipe set up!

Max Speed · 04-10-2008, 08:04 AM

I have been around a turbo set up like this one and it was a different sound for sure. It was louder than stock but the turbo killed the sound more than you would think.

03-20-2008, 03:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
B-Rex Kickstand Operator Joined: Jan 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki B-King Location: Midwest Posts: 297	What Tweaks/Mods Have U Done (Or Planning)? This was discussed for bikes in general in another thread. However, this is more detailed and I'm also curious about the expected outcome of the changes others might be making. For my Bee: 1) Timing Retardation Elimintator (gi-pro TRE). This allows full power in all gears and overrides Suzuki's pre-programmed ECU timing retardation. From the reports this "fixes" the slight 1/4 mile disparity between the 'Busa and the Bee. Some have even speculated that it will give a slight 1/4 mile advantage to the Bee due to the Bee's existing low-end power bias in intake and exhaust systems. Additionally, gi-pro includes a gear position indicator that always reads the correct gear whether or not the TRE is switched on or off. Cheaper TREs, when "on" cause the built-in gear indicator to always read 4th gear (on the Bee....5th gear on most other Suzukis). Another issue with a TRE is the effect it has on engine warm-up. The gi-pro is switchable and can be turned off for start and warm-up and/or for innappropriate road conditions (e.g. rain, casual riding, commuting, etc.) 2) Micron Carbon Fiber exhaust cans. Reportedly give up to a 7hp, 4.7 ft./lb. boost to the Bee without affecting low-end power or needing the addition of a PCIII. Saves about 11 lbs. At about $1500, this will probably have to wait until next year. 3) PCIII if the current testing and mapping indicates an advantage. Right now the jury is still out. Stay tuned (so to speak). Some folks maintain that the 2008 B-King and 'Busa ECUs are Suzuki's absolute best yet. Allegedly highly adaptable and able to handle many hardware upgrades without requiring re-mapping by a PCIII. Time will tell. 4) Windscreen. Right now the Bee's headlight shroud allows for acceptable wind blast at highway speeds. Much over 75-80 mph and it begins to feel pretty ferocious. The new screen (somewhat larger than a flyscreen) is supposed to improve blast without increasing head buffeting. 5) Carbon fiber airboxes. Maybe not much of a performance improvement (supposedly more "ram" effect at higher speeds....not that it would be very useful), but a definite appearance and weight improvement. That's it for the actual mods that "tweak" performance. The rest I've made are for comfort and/or electronics. B-Rex Last edited by B-Rex; 03-20-2008 at 03:48 PM.

03-31-2008, 07:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Max Speed Newbie Joined: Mar 2008 Bike: 2008 B-King and 2000 Busa Location: Western New York Posts: 21	I'm going to keep the mufflers, I thought of changing but I like people's reaction. I took my B-King into the City where I work and got a kick out of some people looking at the bike and saying "What the hell it that?" Its one of a kind and unless I go turbo Im going to keep it the way it is for now. I am going to get a TRE for the King soon. Attached Thumbnails

04-01-2008, 12:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
B-Rex Kickstand Operator Joined: Jan 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki B-King Location: Midwest Posts: 297	I gotta agree....it's part of the fun of owning a Bee. Plus, I like the fact that nothing else has pipes like that. The Microns are pretty close in appearance. It's just going to be a while until I'm ready to pony up $1500. The gi-pro TRE is next on my list too. I keep hearing good things regarding it and the 1/4 mile times. Now I'm really curious. B-Rex Last edited by B-Rex; 04-01-2008 at 12:31 AM.

04-09-2008, 10:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Alex13 Puddle Runner Joined: Sep 2007 Bike: 2007 Boulevard M50 (Black) Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 382	Max Speed, I bet that thing is loud with that pipe set up! __________________ Set low goals so you can overachieve.

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04-10-2008, 08:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Max Speed Newbie Joined: Mar 2008 Bike: 2008 B-King and 2000 Busa Location: Western New York Posts: 21	I have been around a turbo set up like this one and it was a different sound for sure. It was louder than stock but the turbo killed the sound more than you would think.

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