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Superbird · 03-17-2005, 10:10 AM

Kevlar or steel braided brake line? Suggjestions?

**87gsxrnut** · 03-17-2005, 10:17 AM

Save your money. Keep the stock ones.

- Nut

Superbird · 03-17-2005, 10:25 AM

hmm ok haha ill just change out the dot 4 when i get back home

themeatmanlandry · 03-17-2005, 11:04 AM

If you're in a major city, go for the Kevlar . . . it's bullet-proof.

Seriously, unless you're racing, or just have to replace them due to age and want to buy something nicer, I'd stick with the stock ones. If you're going for looks, do what you think looks best.

stevie c · 03-17-2005, 02:29 PM

On the Gixer some people find the standard brake lines too spongy(especially when worked hard),changing to stainless lines is quite a popular mod.
Good brake fluid that isn't degraded is a good idea too.

Superbird · 03-17-2005, 02:42 PM

it is spongy... thats why i asked if there was a huge improvement. I bleed the breaks just to make sure it wasnt air in the line but still its spongy

themeatmanlandry · 03-17-2005, 02:43 PM

Brake fluid gets old. It's hydroscopic (water-loving), so it is recommended that it be changed at least every 2 years.

I have to do mine as well.

Scotsman37 · 03-17-2005, 04:21 PM

Stock brake lines usually need to be replaced about every 10 years because the tough rubber eventually expands more than usual and so you need to use more brake fluid to compensate the greater expansion of the stock brake lines. The stainless steel brake lines don't have that problem and yes it's true that Kevlar is bullet proof and lighter than the stainless steel version which is good for WSBK / MotoGP bikes as they need to shed any possible weight from the bike, but who knows how good they are after 10 years or so ?

In bleeding brakes you usually start with the left side first because of the distance from the master cylinder to the caliper, so if you start with right side first you may inadvertantly force some air bubbles over to the left side.

After finished bleeding both brakes tie wrap the brake lever back and leave it over night to make sure that any air bubbles escape via the master cylinder.

Superbird · 03-17-2005, 04:36 PM

oooo thanks i was wondering about that since there 2 break lines for the front one. Even braid steel should be replaced alot of poeple have that missconception about them since you cant see the rubber thats under the braid it happens alot in cars for fule, and break lines they break to just like rubber but you cant see it

Superbird · 03-17-2005, 04:40 PM

hey scotsman u have a serive manual for a 03 600 gsxr?

**inspiron** · 03-17-2005, 05:16 PM

Superbird, for the record ...

It's FUEL, not FULE, and it's BRAKE lines, not BREAK lines.

Superbird · 03-17-2005, 05:18 PM

ya.. haha thanks

**Trapper** · 03-17-2005, 05:22 PM

...and it's service not serive

Superbird · 03-17-2005, 05:26 PM

rofl... they need a spell checker

**inspiron** · 03-17-2005, 05:31 PM

"they"?

I have one ... it's called a brain.

Scotsman37 · 03-17-2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superbird

hey scotsman u have a serive manual for a 03 600 gsxr?

You'll like this site;

http://www.sradmad.co.uk/brochures_manuals.html

themeatmanlandry · 03-18-2005, 09:06 AM

Oooh . . . tough crowd.

LayinLo · 03-18-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inspiron

"they"?

I have one ... it's called a brain.

And Rowdy......

Superbird · 03-18-2005, 11:50 AM

very tough crowd.... haha... hey layinlo how much for that gs 500 my buddy is looking for a starter bike.

03-17-2005, 10:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	Kevlar or steel braided brake line? Kevlar or steel braided brake line? Suggjestions?

03-17-2005, 10:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
87gsxrnut Ho Dog Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 867-5309 Location: Terror Lake Posts: 4,224	Save your money. Keep the stock ones. - Nut __________________ Person or person's unknown.

03-17-2005, 11:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	If you're in a major city, go for the Kevlar . . . it's bullet-proof. Seriously, unless you're racing, or just have to replace them due to age and want to buy something nicer, I'd stick with the stock ones. If you're going for looks, do what you think looks best. __________________ Go to hell

03-17-2005, 02:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
stevie c Sit speling cheker Joined: Mar 2004 Bike: GSX-R 600 K1 Location: Northants,UK Posts: 1,631	On the Gixer some people find the standard brake lines too spongy(especially when worked hard),changing to stainless lines is quite a popular mod. Good brake fluid that isn't degraded is a good idea too. __________________ Stevie C '02 Gixer 600 K1,Yellow and Black (fastest colour!), always beats red ones!! Why put off until tomorrow what you can get someone else to do for you today.

03-17-2005, 02:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	Brake fluid gets old. It's hydroscopic (water-loving), so it is recommended that it be changed at least every 2 years. I have to do mine as well. __________________ Go to hell

03-17-2005, 10:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	hmm ok haha ill just change out the dot 4 when i get back home

03-17-2005, 02:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	it is spongy... thats why i asked if there was a huge improvement. I bleed the breaks just to make sure it wasnt air in the line but still its spongy

03-17-2005, 04:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Scotsman37 Newbie Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 9	Stock brake lines usually need to be replaced about every 10 years because the tough rubber eventually expands more than usual and so you need to use more brake fluid to compensate the greater expansion of the stock brake lines. The stainless steel brake lines don't have that problem and yes it's true that Kevlar is bullet proof and lighter than the stainless steel version which is good for WSBK / MotoGP bikes as they need to shed any possible weight from the bike, but who knows how good they are after 10 years or so ? In bleeding brakes you usually start with the left side first because of the distance from the master cylinder to the caliper, so if you start with right side first you may inadvertantly force some air bubbles over to the left side. After finished bleeding both brakes tie wrap the brake lever back and leave it over night to make sure that any air bubbles escape via the master cylinder. Last edited by Scotsman37; 03-17-2005 at 04:31 PM.

03-17-2005, 04:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	oooo thanks i was wondering about that since there 2 break lines for the front one. Even braid steel should be replaced alot of poeple have that missconception about them since you cant see the rubber thats under the braid it happens alot in cars for fule, and break lines they break to just like rubber but you cant see it Last edited by Superbird; 03-17-2005 at 04:40 PM.

03-17-2005, 04:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	hey scotsman u have a serive manual for a 03 600 gsxr?

03-17-2005, 05:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
inspiron Muscle Biker Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Blue Suzuki GSX 1400 (2003) Location: Canton Basel-Land, Switzerland (47.4493, 7.76536) Posts: 12,070	Superbird, for the record ... It's FUEL, not FULE, and it's BRAKE lines, not BREAK lines. __________________ There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe blog: gsx1400

03-17-2005, 05:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	ya.. haha thanks

03-17-2005, 05:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
Trapper Dogs Best Friend(admin) Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: SOLD Location: Moncton NB Canada Posts: 9,190	...and it's service not serive __________________ PointFlushRetrieve.com - Bird Dog Blog Motorcycle-Journal.com Blog

03-17-2005, 05:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Superbird Banned Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2003 blk/silv GSXR 600 Location: Barksdale Air Force Base Posts: 455	rofl... they need a spell checker

03-17-2005, 05:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
inspiron Muscle Biker Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Blue Suzuki GSX 1400 (2003) Location: Canton Basel-Land, Switzerland (47.4493, 7.76536) Posts: 12,070	"they"? I have one ... it's called a brain. __________________ There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe blog: gsx1400

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themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	Oooh . . . tough crowd. __________________ Go to hell

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