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tricker · 04-13-2009, 01:56 PM

your both socialist nazis who are canadian at heart

Easy Rider · 04-13-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tricker

your both socialist nazis who are canadian at heart

How did you get so smart....aye ??
Now my cover has been blown.

caryabhi127 · 05-27-2009, 06:55 PM

No, it is not true.

Easy Rider · 05-27-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by caryabhi127

No, it is not true.

That's a really good post.

43 messages into a thread...........just exactly WHAT is not true?
Which of the previoius 43 posts are you referring to?

Notice the "quote" button ???

Davecm203 · 05-27-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rider

That's a really good post.

43 messages into a thread...........just exactly WHAT is not true?
Which of the previoius 43 posts are you referring to?

Notice the "quote" button ???

I think he was refering to the original post. I don't think he noticed it was a dead thread.

jprisme · 05-28-2009, 10:35 AM

i have a question. why does a lincoln navigator say run 91 but a ford expedition say run 87.... same engine different octane level?

tricker · 05-28-2009, 10:39 AM

cause its a navigator.. duh! Not some lowly expedition

**intimid8er** · 05-28-2009, 11:00 AM

Navigator has 32 valve (and DOHC) vs. 2-3 valve per cyl on the same displacement for the Expedition.

Easy Rider · 05-28-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jprisme

i have a question. why does a lincoln navigator say run 91 but a ford expedition say run 87.... same engine different octane level?

Pretty obvious that it is NOT exactly the same engine.
The Lincoln likely has a higher HP rating.
Slightly different valve and ignition timing is sometimes all it takes.

Apertureguy · 05-28-2009, 01:51 PM

Stinkin Lincoln...everything is at a premium on those.

teufulhunden07 · 05-28-2009, 03:07 PM

They need to make vehicles that run on broken promises, crushed dreams, and hefty piles of BS... we have an abundance of all three in America the Great

teufulhunden07 · 05-28-2009, 03:09 PM

I'm aware I'm a little behind on the post, back tracking a little, but really, digging up the roots of the original post... my cruiser really got crudded up when I ran premium 93 octane... supposedely the compression wasn't high enough to combust all of it or whatever..? this sound good to yall? this is what I was told... please correct me if this is a load of crock.

Easy Rider · 05-28-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by teufulhunden07

my cruiser really got crudded up when I ran premium 93 octane... supposedely the compression wasn't high enough to combust all of it or whatever..? this sound good to yall? this is what I was told... please correct me if this is a load of crock.

It is a stretch but possible. I can see how it might be prone to a little more carbon buildup but very little.

Wyldesoul · 05-28-2009, 10:29 PM

I saw diesel as cheaper than gas last time I checked... 87 was at 2.65, and Deisel was at 2.30 or so.

Edit: Grand... I failed to confirm that the post I was replying to was actually on the last page.

jprisme · 05-29-2009, 07:09 PM

they both have the same 5.4 32 valve engine. good ol'e stinkin lincoln haha... diesel is amazing... its extremely high in one city than its extremely cheap right across the street amazing

Easy Rider · 05-29-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jprisme

they both have the same 5.4 32 valve engine.

Ya, well my last two Seville's had the "same" whatever,whatever engines too.....but one had higher compression, an extra 40 horses, IIRC, and required premium fuel.

You can't really say they are the same without seeing all the spec's.

Judging a book by it's cover, and all that !!

jprisme · 05-31-2009, 02:01 PM

with that much compression an horsepower increase coming from a car manufacturer, than either it got a charge upgrade or a different engine... different litre size but same amount of cylinders... (Man i hope that made sense..lol)

NCxM50 · 06-01-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rider

Ya, well my last two Seville's had the "same" whatever,whatever engines too.....but one had higher compression, an extra 40 horses, IIRC, and required premium fuel.

You can't really say they are the same without seeing all the spec's.

Judging a book by it's cover, and all that !!

Actually, both the Ford and Lincoln motors are rated at 310hp/365lb-ft. Both are rated at a swell 14/20 mpg

both engines are built at the same plant in Windsor, Ontario, and both are considered to be Flex Fuel engines even though Ford prominently displays this on the vehicle and in advertising while Lincoln does not, and instead only mentions it in passing in the manual.

Oddly enough, the Ford has the higher compression ratio (though only slightly), but the Lincoln owners manual calls for 91 octane fuel, and the Ford manual calls for regular 87 octane. Both can, as Flex Fuel vehicles, also use E85.

Easy Rider · 06-01-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NCxM50

Oddly enough, the Ford has the higher compression ratio (though only slightly), but the Lincoln owners manual calls for 91 octane fuel, and the Ford manual calls for regular 87 octane. Both can, as Flex Fuel vehicles, also use E85.

OK, so it's a screw up in the manuals........or a marketing "trick".

OR the valves are electronically controlled and the Lincoln has a different "program".....in which case, it is still a mistake in the manuals 'cause that should be reflected in a higher HP rating or compression......or both.

tricker · 06-01-2009, 03:29 PM

dammit ken.. stop trying to make sense to this madness

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teufulhunden07 Lance Corporal Coppertone Join Date: Oct 2008 Bike: 2005 Boulevard C50T Location: Alabama Posts: 371	I'm aware I'm a little behind on the post, back tracking a little, but really, digging up the roots of the original post... my cruiser really got crudded up when I ran premium 93 octane... supposedely the compression wasn't high enough to combust all of it or whatever..? this sound good to yall? this is what I was told... please correct me if this is a load of crock. __________________ Lance Corporal Skillman, Saving the world one block of C4 at a time Who decided to start hitting a ball with a stick in order to ring a hole 300+ yards away??... Suzuki Boulevard C50T: Fully Debaffled Pipes // Home Fabricated 2" Lowers // Home Fabricated Tag Laydown Mod // Tank and Fender Chrome Trim // Pair Valve Removel Kit // "C50T" Emblem Debadged

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tricker M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 7,038	your both socialist nazis who are canadian at heart

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tricker M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 7,038	cause its a navigator.. duh! Not some lowly expedition

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Apertureguy M-J Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: New York Posts: 3,854	Stinkin Lincoln...everything is at a premium on those.

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Wyldesoul Seat Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Bike: 1981 Suzuki GS 250 T Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 62	I saw diesel as cheaper than gas last time I checked... 87 was at 2.65, and Deisel was at 2.30 or so. Edit: Grand... I failed to confirm that the post I was replying to was actually on the last page. __________________ It is known that there is an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the product of a deranged imagination. -Douglas Adams Last edited by Wyldesoul; 05-28-2009 at 10:32 PM.

05-29-2009, 07:09 PM	#55 (permalink)
jprisme Clunked into first gear Join Date: Dec 2007 Bike: gsxr 1000 2007 Location: los angeles Posts: 212	they both have the same 5.4 32 valve engine. good ol'e stinkin lincoln haha... diesel is amazing... its extremely high in one city than its extremely cheap right across the street amazing __________________ i have mutiplus sclerosis and well i wanted to ride since i was young so i saved up my money and got good credit and bought me a hell of a bike. i never looked back since

05-31-2009, 02:01 PM	#57 (permalink)
jprisme Clunked into first gear Join Date: Dec 2007 Bike: gsxr 1000 2007 Location: los angeles Posts: 212	with that much compression an horsepower increase coming from a car manufacturer, than either it got a charge upgrade or a different engine... different litre size but same amount of cylinders... (Man i hope that made sense..lol) __________________ i have mutiplus sclerosis and well i wanted to ride since i was young so i saved up my money and got good credit and bought me a hell of a bike. i never looked back since

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tricker M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 7,038	dammit ken.. stop trying to make sense to this madness

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