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jaydog19833 · 09-15-2004, 02:18 PM

When entering a sharp corner there are motions and actions which you should follow. I'm basically asking if I am right or wrong.

/In no particular order/
1. Always decelerate before coming into a corner.
2. Never brake or shift while cornering.
3. Find the Apex and keep a solid line.
4. Never downshift too soon and keep the rear tire from skidding (duh)
5. When turning left for example; shift your azz to the left of the seat, lean forward or tuck, apppropriately countersteer and drop your knee.
6. Exiting a corner; level yourself back on the seat, tuck your body and accelerate like youre running from the cops.

In case anyone was wondering I'm getting ready for a track day with my friend. I'm sure I'll learn some there, but I still wanna know if anyone has any suggestions.

Lance · 09-15-2004, 02:26 PM

I agree with pretty much everything except for your views on acceleration out of the corner. After you have the bike leaned your goal should be to get on the throttle as soon as possible. I am not saying wack it open but a smooth roll-on at the apex and possiblly even pre apex will do wonders for stabilizing the bikes suspension and improving lap times.

If your really interested in track days and improving your skill set, check out Twist of the wrist II by Keith Code. That book goes ridicoulsly indepth on corning and other 'track' techniques.

jaydog19833 · 09-15-2004, 02:55 PM

I may look into the book, thanks. Also I did mean to accelerate as soon as you are past the Apex. I fell better knowing I have been doing ths right

**87gsxrnut** · 09-15-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

I am not saying wack it open

I am, unless you are running RS-series/flatslide carbs.

Jay, disregard ANYTHING you think about knowing how to ride fast on the street. Find yourself an instructor at the track day. Track day employee, known local KFG etc. Have them evaluate your performance once you get a few laps on the track.

Oh yeah, you will make a hundred mistakes those first few laps. Have fun and BE PREDICTABLE!

- Nut

Daggerdave · 09-15-2004, 02:56 PM

The most important thing is to avoid target fixation.

Look thru the turn to where you want to be, way down the track.

The other thing is dont be in a hurry. Take your time getting up to speed.

Daggerdave
Head Trackmarshal
http://www.aztrackday.com

RookWV · 09-15-2004, 05:21 PM

Don't get back up on the seat until the bike almost completely upright....

Watch the AMA/MotoGP racers, they are still slightly off center on the seat until they are practically upright.

I've read to go into a turn in the highest gear you can pull out of the turn, too high of a gear and you bog....too low and you spin the rear and possibly highside.

SLOW throttle control is the key....remember, slow in fast out.

09-15-2004, 02:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
jaydog19833 U.B's LoveChild Joined: Jun 2004 Bike: 04 GSXR 600 Location: Lake George, NY Posts: 1,288	Apex time When entering a sharp corner there are motions and actions which you should follow. I'm basically asking if I am right or wrong. /In no particular order/ 1. Always decelerate before coming into a corner. 2. Never brake or shift while cornering. 3. Find the Apex and keep a solid line. 4. Never downshift too soon and keep the rear tire from skidding (duh) 5. When turning left for example; shift your azz to the left of the seat, lean forward or tuck, apppropriately countersteer and drop your knee. 6. Exiting a corner; level yourself back on the seat, tuck your body and accelerate like youre running from the cops. In case anyone was wondering I'm getting ready for a track day with my friend. I'm sure I'll learn some there, but I still wanna know if anyone has any suggestions. __________________ Anyone can fire a bullet. Only the good ones can steer one. Bend your elbow, move your arse, and stick the knee out.

09-15-2004, 02:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lance Newbie Joined: Sep 2004 Location: manchester md Posts: 15	I agree with pretty much everything except for your views on acceleration out of the corner. After you have the bike leaned your goal should be to get on the throttle as soon as possible. I am not saying wack it open but a smooth roll-on at the apex and possiblly even pre apex will do wonders for stabilizing the bikes suspension and improving lap times. If your really interested in track days and improving your skill set, check out Twist of the wrist II by Keith Code. That book goes ridicoulsly indepth on corning and other 'track' techniques. __________________ this boat is obviously sinking

09-15-2004, 02:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
jaydog19833 U.B's LoveChild Joined: Jun 2004 Bike: 04 GSXR 600 Location: Lake George, NY Posts: 1,288	I may look into the book, thanks. Also I did mean to accelerate as soon as you are past the Apex. I fell better knowing I have been doing ths right __________________ Anyone can fire a bullet. Only the good ones can steer one. Bend your elbow, move your arse, and stick the knee out.

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09-15-2004, 02:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Daggerdave Newbie Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22	The most important thing is to avoid target fixation. Look thru the turn to where you want to be, way down the track. The other thing is dont be in a hurry. Take your time getting up to speed. Daggerdave Head Trackmarshal http://www.aztrackday.com

09-15-2004, 05:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
RookWV Found second gear by accident Joined: Apr 2004 Bike: 04 GSXR 750 Location: Beckley, WV Posts: 304	Don't get back up on the seat until the bike almost completely upright.... Watch the AMA/MotoGP racers, they are still slightly off center on the seat until they are practically upright. I've read to go into a turn in the highest gear you can pull out of the turn, too high of a gear and you bog....too low and you spin the rear and possibly highside. SLOW throttle control is the key....remember, slow in fast out.

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