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zleviticus · 07-20-2004, 12:04 PM

Ok I have a 600 Kat with a center stand.. what in the heck is the best and easiest way to get it up on the center stand.. off the bike.. on the bike.. for the life of me I can not get it up on it.. any suggestions are welcomed...

jaydog19833 · 07-20-2004, 01:07 PM

Put your left hand on the handlebar, and your right hand on the rear seat handle. Put your right foot on the peg and push the stand to the ground. Once the stand is in contact with the ground, pust the bike away from yourself. Once pushed away from you far enough you should feel the centerstand on the opposite side too(at this point the bike should be standing exactly straight up from the ground). Then pull up on the back handle and stand on the centerstand peg. I actually had to pull hard enough to bring my legs off the ground. It will pop right onto the stand.

To bring it down; climb onto the seat while its still on the centerstand then rock forward hard. The bike will roll off and the centerstand will tuck back up.

RookWV · 07-20-2004, 01:16 PM

I'll usually leave my sidestand down until I get the centerstand locked.

It's more pushing with your leg than lifting....

Do be careful because you can lose control of the bike and it will fall over....I've come close several times.

And don't try to slide/move the bike around once it's up on the stand, you can pull it backwards and shimmy it around but if it goes forward the look out!

zleviticus · 07-20-2004, 01:21 PM

hmm that is where i was getting it all wrong.. I was not allowing the center stand to do the work by allowing the other side fo the stand be on the ground so the entire weight of the cycle was on the one side of the stand.. i will give it a try tonight and let y'all know how it works out..

007 · 07-20-2004, 02:53 PM

I had the same problem, because I have a heavy bike too (Bandit 600 weighs about freaking 430 pounds!). But then why even bother with the center stand? It is almost useless: the bike is less stable on the centerstand, and in fact many bikes don't even come with a centerstand. It's just not worth the risk messing with it and then dropping the bike. Forget it! (I'm actually pondering removing the centerstand).

zleviticus · 07-20-2004, 02:59 PM

uhh because that is the only way my bike will nicely fit in my garage.. LOL... otherwise I have to turn the mirrors in so they are not up against the wall... yeah yeah yeah i need a bigger garage...

**inspiron** · 07-20-2004, 03:04 PM

Why a centerstand?

1) Here, most bikes are parked in November and don't move again until March. With the bike on the side stand, you can't fill the tank all the way, and it's also not good for the tires. (Preparing your bike for winter in an area with lots of rain or snow is a science!)

2) The bike standing straight up takes up much less space in the garage, especially during Winter, when it's just in the way.

BTW, my bike weighs in at over 560 lbs, and I can get it on the centerstand without too much effort. It's more a matter of practice than strength...

Gixxerman · 07-20-2004, 03:47 PM

You gotta beef yourself up a bit. Lift some weights literaly

RookWV · 07-20-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inspiron

Why a centerstand?

1) Here, most bikes are parked in November and don't move again until March. With the bike on the side stand, you can't fill the tank all the way, and it's also not good for the tires. (Preparing your bike for winter in an area with lots of rain or snow is a science!)

2) The bike standing straight up takes up much less space in the garage, especially during Winter, when it's just in the way.

BTW, my bike weighs in at over 560 lbs, and I can get it on the centerstand without too much effort. It's more a matter of practice than strength...

It's much easier to tend to the chain, rear brakes, rear wheel/tire. Plus you can sit on it and get cool pictures taken of yourself all hunkered down behind the windscreen!

And it's actually much more stable than on the side stand.

zleviticus · 07-20-2004, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gixxerman

You gotta beef yourself up a bit. Lift some weights literaly

Hmm since I am 6' tall 270 and bench 300 I do not think that is the issue.. LOL

Gixxerman · 07-20-2004, 03:58 PM

Well then... It shouldn't be a prob lifting the bike up on its centerstand. Stand on the lefthand side, put your right foot on the centerstand as a counterweight, and then you pull the handlebars backwards.... Easy pleasy (in theory)

zleviticus · 07-20-2004, 04:03 PM

well shall see my friend we shall see...

zleviticus · 07-21-2004, 07:31 AM

Update: well I figured it out.. the easiest way to do it (as mentioned once above) is to stand on the peg with your right leg and hold the handlebars with both hands. Then put all your pressure on the stand (using entire body weight) to allow the stand to kick the cycle up onto the stand. Don't make the mistakes i did though.. First make sure you are in neutral (DOOH!) and make sure you are NOT HOLDING THE DARN FRONT BRAKE..

boy not doing those two things really makes putting it up on the stand a whole lot easier...

revolution600 · 07-21-2004, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007

I had the same problem, because I have a heavy bike too (Bandit 600 weighs about freaking 430 pounds!). But then why even bother with the center stand? It is almost useless: the bike is less stable on the centerstand, and in fact many bikes don't even come with a centerstand. It's just not worth the risk messing with it and then dropping the bike. Forget it! (I'm actually pondering removing the centerstand).

took mine off yesterday cause my new vance and hines doesent have a bumper for it and it was touching the chain. weighs about 10 freakin pounds lol.

SeattleKatana · 07-21-2004, 11:16 AM

One other thing.......kinda dumb...I use the kick before I pull it up on the center stand....done this at the gas station a couple of times. After I fill the tank I get on and push it off the center stand. Start it up and head out...well try to anyway. Let the clutch out and engine dies... did that a few times... then I looked down to see if I had turned the fuel off or something equally stupid... It was stupid...the kick was still down....

zleviticus · 07-21-2004, 11:28 AM

LOL i did not want to admit it but I did that yesterday .. put the kick stand down then on the center stand.. then went to go and take off the center stand start it up and cer plut engine died.. side stand still down... LOL

SeattleKatana · 07-21-2004, 01:08 PM

Glad to see I'm not the only one... lol

**Louis** · 07-21-2004, 01:22 PM

With the proper way to do it, you shouldn't have to "lift" the bike. Go slow at first and ensure that bothe feet of the stand touch the ground. As RookWV says, its more about pushing with your legs than lifting the bike. Push down with your legs on the stand and roll the bike backwards. If it makes it easier try getting momemtum at first (try once first without rolling the bike too much, then push harder to make it roll backwards a bit more).

I've seen smaller ladies do it while beefed up men fail during my MSF course (they showed us how to do it).

TL chris · 07-21-2004, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleKatana

One other thing.......kinda dumb...I use the kick before I pull it up on the center stand....done this at the gas station a couple of times. After I fill the tank I get on and push it off the center stand. Start it up and head out...well try to anyway. Let the clutch out and engine dies... did that a few times... then I looked down to see if I had turned the fuel off or something equally stupid... It was stupid...the kick was still down....

Gixxerman · 07-22-2004, 04:30 AM

I knew it, I knew it !

Just a little ekstra tip, you don't have to put it in neutral. Just pull the clutch and of course, hands off the brake

07-20-2004, 12:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
zleviticus Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 165	Center stand? How the he..... Ok I have a 600 Kat with a center stand.. what in the heck is the best and easiest way to get it up on the center stand.. off the bike.. on the bike.. for the life of me I can not get it up on it.. any suggestions are welcomed... __________________ Blue 2002 Chevy 1500HD crew Cab Red 2004 Mazda Tribute Red 1967 Camaro RS/SS Red 1967 Mustang GT Convert Yellow 2004 Katana 600

07-20-2004, 01:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
jaydog19833 U.B's LoveChild Joined: Jun 2004 Bike: 04 GSXR 600 Location: Lake George, NY Posts: 1,288	Put your left hand on the handlebar, and your right hand on the rear seat handle. Put your right foot on the peg and push the stand to the ground. Once the stand is in contact with the ground, pust the bike away from yourself. Once pushed away from you far enough you should feel the centerstand on the opposite side too(at this point the bike should be standing exactly straight up from the ground). Then pull up on the back handle and stand on the centerstand peg. I actually had to pull hard enough to bring my legs off the ground. It will pop right onto the stand. To bring it down; climb onto the seat while its still on the centerstand then rock forward hard. The bike will roll off and the centerstand will tuck back up. __________________ Anyone can fire a bullet. Only the good ones can steer one. Bend your elbow, move your arse, and stick the knee out.

07-20-2004, 01:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
zleviticus Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 165	hmm that is where i was getting it all wrong.. I was not allowing the center stand to do the work by allowing the other side fo the stand be on the ground so the entire weight of the cycle was on the one side of the stand.. i will give it a try tonight and let y'all know how it works out.. __________________ Blue 2002 Chevy 1500HD crew Cab Red 2004 Mazda Tribute Red 1967 Camaro RS/SS Red 1967 Mustang GT Convert Yellow 2004 Katana 600

07-20-2004, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
007 TurtleWax Taster Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Boston. MA Posts: 592	I had the same problem, because I have a heavy bike too (Bandit 600 weighs about freaking 430 pounds!). But then why even bother with the center stand? It is almost useless: the bike is less stable on the centerstand, and in fact many bikes don't even come with a centerstand. It's just not worth the risk messing with it and then dropping the bike. Forget it! (I'm actually pondering removing the centerstand). __________________ Suzuki Bandit 600S "Every man dies, not every man really lives". William Wallace - Scottish freedomfighter

07-20-2004, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
zleviticus Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 165	uhh because that is the only way my bike will nicely fit in my garage.. LOL... otherwise I have to turn the mirrors in so they are not up against the wall... yeah yeah yeah i need a bigger garage... __________________ Blue 2002 Chevy 1500HD crew Cab Red 2004 Mazda Tribute Red 1967 Camaro RS/SS Red 1967 Mustang GT Convert Yellow 2004 Katana 600

07-20-2004, 01:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
RookWV Found second gear by accident Joined: Apr 2004 Bike: 04 GSXR 750 Location: Beckley, WV Posts: 304	I'll usually leave my sidestand down until I get the centerstand locked. It's more pushing with your leg than lifting.... Do be careful because you can lose control of the bike and it will fall over....I've come close several times. And don't try to slide/move the bike around once it's up on the stand, you can pull it backwards and shimmy it around but if it goes forward the look out!

07-20-2004, 03:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
inspiron Muscle Biker Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Blue Suzuki GSX 1400 (2003) Location: Canton Basel-Land, Switzerland (47.4493, 7.76536) Posts: 11,947	Why a centerstand? 1) Here, most bikes are parked in November and don't move again until March. With the bike on the side stand, you can't fill the tank all the way, and it's also not good for the tires. (Preparing your bike for winter in an area with lots of rain or snow is a science!) 2) The bike standing straight up takes up much less space in the garage, especially during Winter, when it's just in the way. BTW, my bike weighs in at over 560 lbs, and I can get it on the centerstand without too much effort. It's more a matter of practice than strength... __________________ There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe blog: gsx1400

07-20-2004, 04:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
zleviticus Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 165	well shall see my friend we shall see... __________________ Blue 2002 Chevy 1500HD crew Cab Red 2004 Mazda Tribute Red 1967 Camaro RS/SS Red 1967 Mustang GT Convert Yellow 2004 Katana 600

07-21-2004, 07:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
zleviticus Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 165	Update: well I figured it out.. the easiest way to do it (as mentioned once above) is to stand on the peg with your right leg and hold the handlebars with both hands. Then put all your pressure on the stand (using entire body weight) to allow the stand to kick the cycle up onto the stand. Don't make the mistakes i did though.. First make sure you are in neutral (DOOH!) and make sure you are NOT HOLDING THE DARN FRONT BRAKE.. boy not doing those two things really makes putting it up on the stand a whole lot easier... __________________ Blue 2002 Chevy 1500HD crew Cab Red 2004 Mazda Tribute Red 1967 Camaro RS/SS Red 1967 Mustang GT Convert Yellow 2004 Katana 600

07-21-2004, 11:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
SeattleKatana In Training Joined: May 2004 Bike: 2003 Katana 600 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 107	One other thing.......kinda dumb...I use the kick before I pull it up on the center stand....done this at the gas station a couple of times. After I fill the tank I get on and push it off the center stand. Start it up and head out...well try to anyway. Let the clutch out and engine dies... did that a few times... then I looked down to see if I had turned the fuel off or something equally stupid... It was stupid...the kick was still down....

07-21-2004, 11:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
zleviticus Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 165	LOL i did not want to admit it but I did that yesterday .. put the kick stand down then on the center stand.. then went to go and take off the center stand start it up and cer plut engine died.. side stand still down... LOL __________________ Blue 2002 Chevy 1500HD crew Cab Red 2004 Mazda Tribute Red 1967 Camaro RS/SS Red 1967 Mustang GT Convert Yellow 2004 Katana 600

07-21-2004, 01:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
SeattleKatana In Training Joined: May 2004 Bike: 2003 Katana 600 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 107	Glad to see I'm not the only one... lol

07-21-2004, 01:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
Louis Administrator Joined: Sep 2003 Bike: SV650S '05 (Blue) Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada Posts: 10,655	With the proper way to do it, you shouldn't have to "lift" the bike. Go slow at first and ensure that bothe feet of the stand touch the ground. As RookWV says, its more about pushing with your legs than lifting the bike. Push down with your legs on the stand and roll the bike backwards. If it makes it easier try getting momemtum at first (try once first without rolling the bike too much, then push harder to make it roll backwards a bit more). I've seen smaller ladies do it while beefed up men fail during my MSF course (they showed us how to do it). __________________ Louis

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