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Tab B. · 06-14-2008, 10:36 AM

Wow, this one has been around awhile. One thing to consider, that seems to have been overlooked, are warped "driven" clutch plates, the steel ones. If they warp just a little, and I mean little, as in not even enough to make the bike creep, they can still affect the bikes ability to go into neutral. It isn't likely to happen on a bike with so few miles, but if a defective plate made it through to assembly, or a couple of overly aggressive slippage sessions occurred, it is possible. Although, that last one would be suspect. I've beaten the hell out of my clutches at the drags, and haven't warped a plate{s}. I'd bet that is one of the first things they would check at the dealer, after cable tension, but before getting deep into the tranny {shift forks, drum, etc}.

chadrob30 · 06-15-2008, 09:53 PM

Sounds like it has an M109R clutch in it.

JmalB · 06-16-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rider

...shift into first just a tiny bit before coming to a complete stop.
But there is no "fix". A lot of modern bikes are like that....I mean most.
Despite your best efforts, it will be a problem occasionally.
Learn to deal with it and don't worry that you are doing someting wrong.

1/2 Japanese · 06-18-2008, 02:42 PM

Thanks for the feedback!

MikeHump · 06-18-2008, 03:24 PM

I agree with most everyone that's responded, telling you to release the clutch, rock the bike a little, squeeze the clutch, and try again. I would recommend shifting into 1st prior to coming to the stop though. I've found that on my GSXR, the sweet spot is from 7 - 8 mph, downshifting from 2nd to 1st is so smooth I don't even notice it go into gear. I'm not sure how similar the SV650 transmission is to the GSXR transmission, but there might be some sort of similar sweet spot.

C2W? · 06-18-2008, 09:13 PM

Just tightening the clutch cable probably isn't the answer. . . .Sounds more like it needs a clutch adjustment.

Same mechanism on my DL650...EZ to do the adjustment and proper adjustment makes all the difference in the clutch actuation and gear changes.

NateHarris · 06-22-2008, 11:41 PM

Check your oil level, and with it being that new, it is also very tight anyway. Use the tricks mentioned; ricking the bike, re-engage the clutch, blip the throttle, etc. This is normal, but you DON'T want to force it into a gear, any gear. That could bend a transmission fork worsening the issue till it will never get into gear.

This is just a normal thing for the most part. Just got to learn the machine's quirks.

06-15-2008, 09:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
chadrob30 Sprocket Pilot Join Date: May 2005 Bike: 2008 B-King Location: Fort Smith, Arkansas Posts: 874	Sounds like it has an M109R clutch in it. __________________ 2008 Suzuki B-King. Two Brothers Racing pipes, Pazzo levers, carbon turn signals

06-18-2008, 02:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
1/2 Japanese Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2008 SV650 (Naked) Posts: 2	Thanks! Thanks for the feedback!

06-18-2008, 09:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
C2W? In Training Join Date: Jan 2006 Bike: "Little" 6Fiddy Location: Carlsbad (Not NM) Posts: 127	Just tightening the clutch cable probably isn't the answer. . . .Sounds more like it needs a clutch adjustment. Same mechanism on my DL650...EZ to do the adjustment and proper adjustment makes all the difference in the clutch actuation and gear changes. __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because the test is first, the lesson afterward.

06-22-2008, 11:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
NateHarris Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: 07 Suzuki M50 Location: Fort Mill, SC 29707 Posts: 301	Check your oil level, and with it being that new, it is also very tight anyway. Use the tricks mentioned; ricking the bike, re-engage the clutch, blip the throttle, etc. This is normal, but you DON'T want to force it into a gear, any gear. That could bend a transmission fork worsening the issue till it will never get into gear. This is just a normal thing for the most part. Just got to learn the machine's quirks. __________________ Nate 07 M50 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world’s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage." -Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle Of Democracy (1770) "Loud pipes save egos" - N.H.

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06-14-2008, 10:36 AM	#21 (permalink)
Tab B. Handlebar Consultant Join Date: May 2007 Bike: 86 GSXR750G, 93 GSX1100G, 89 YSR50 Location: Kingston NH Posts: 605	Wow, this one has been around awhile. One thing to consider, that seems to have been overlooked, are warped "driven" clutch plates, the steel ones. If they warp just a little, and I mean little, as in not even enough to make the bike creep, they can still affect the bikes ability to go into neutral. It isn't likely to happen on a bike with so few miles, but if a defective plate made it through to assembly, or a couple of overly aggressive slippage sessions occurred, it is possible. Although, that last one would be suspect. I've beaten the hell out of my clutches at the drags, and haven't warped a plate{s}. I'd bet that is one of the first things they would check at the dealer, after cable tension, but before getting deep into the tranny {shift forks, drum, etc}.

06-18-2008, 03:24 PM	#25 (permalink)
MikeHump Puddle Runner Join Date: Oct 2007 Bike: 2007 GSXR 600 Location: Tracy, CA Posts: 383	I agree with most everyone that's responded, telling you to release the clutch, rock the bike a little, squeeze the clutch, and try again. I would recommend shifting into 1st prior to coming to the stop though. I've found that on my GSXR, the sweet spot is from 7 - 8 mph, downshifting from 2nd to 1st is so smooth I don't even notice it go into gear. I'm not sure how similar the SV650 transmission is to the GSXR transmission, but there might be some sort of similar sweet spot.

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