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Old 06-16-2004, 06:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Today I was riding to pick up a movie to watch tonight. Came off the light and brought it up to 7k then closed and reopened. It popped right up and then when I usually close the throttle I keeped it open and it climbed to the balance point. Wow does it feel weird. All of a sudden it feel like there was no gravity pulling down on the bike. That scared me and then I brought the bike back on 2. About a 1 1/2 months to get it there. ways taking it slow and I am happy to have hit it. It is not that scary to get it up at the angle. I must have been shy of it by a few inches in the past tried b/c when I hit it, I wasn't up at a scary angle. It was quiet pleasent.

Any budy who is learning such as myself. Your time will come if it hasn't already. Keep up the good work and don't get over confident. Just keep practicing poping it up. I use to have a heck of a time just getting the tire off the ground but I found the sweet spot on my bike and the amount of throttle needed and it is a beauty.

Just wanted to let you guys know. I was so excited

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Old 06-16-2004, 07:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, just this afternoon I impressed myself with the confidence I have in a mild power wheelie. As soon as I get close to balancing, though,



I'll keep taking it easy, I think.
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Old 06-16-2004, 11:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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good job man. how does it feel when your up there?
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Old 06-17-2004, 09:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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real weird. I was use to feeling the throttle trying to pull up the 500-600 lb bike for a 1 1/2 months, then when you hit the point everything is weightless. I was an akward feeling for the first butit was nice. People always say it is way up there. So I was always like crap I am not going to bring it that far, I Will be leaning back off the bike. But it was not that back. It was about 10 o clock to 11. It seems steep but its not that bad.

Looking forward to hitting it again in a few days when the weather is nice again.
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Old 06-18-2004, 06:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i tried to hit the balance point on my bycycle, but if you keep pedeling, it goes too far, and if you stop, it goes down. i can hit it for about 2 seconds and it usually goes way too far up.
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bicycles do not have balance points. lol that was funny to read about trying to wheelie on abike.

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Old 06-18-2004, 08:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i can wheely for a moderate amount of time, but no balance point
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Memphis, you can't wheelie a bike? Its been done, My brother does it all the time. All things have balance points, its like putting a box on on corner, you can do it, but it won't stay there. same with a bike, gotta keep making small adjustments for a long one.
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Damn!!!!!!! Balance Weeeeelies are sick!
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I just wanted to take the time out to say your post was really helpful. I have been bringing the bike up here and there, but never to any point that I feel comfortable in the upright position. I figure there is a point, then the other day I felt like i was going too far back. I will continue to cross my fingers for that day you just got.

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I just wanted to take the time out to say your post was really helpful. I have been bringing the bike up here and there, but never to any point that I feel comfortable in the upright position. I figure there is a point, then the other day I felt like i was going too far back. I will continue to cross my fingers for that day you just got.

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Old 06-21-2004, 07:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hittin the balance point is sweet. I havn't done it on my bike yet, just picked it up a few times comin up the hill in my parking lot. but doing wheelies on my raptor was fun as hell when you knew how far back to go. It'll be a little while before i can get comfortable doin it on one wheel. but can't wait till i do, congrats

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Old 06-21-2004, 10:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I appreciate all the support and all the support goes back out to you guys.

Just don't push it to get even a small wheelie if anything seems out of place, even the mind set.

Take your time and get use to the height you are getting now. I was hitting about 9 o clock and cruising and then the bike would drop comming down @ 50 mph because I didn't give it enough gas to bring it up and hold it. I was doing that for a while and then one day not even thinking I gave it a little more gas b/c I was use to the 9/10 oclock and I hit the balance point. Never held it there and tried to ride it out but I just pop it up and then let off the gas to bring the nose down and then give it gas again so I don't get a tank slapper.

Keep up the good work, conforting knowing I am not the only guy in the forums just learing wheeling.

For those who are starting, what I have exp.
I ride a 02 gsx-r 600 -- has enough power but I need high rpm

I usually rip it open to about 7k rpm ( doing about 30-35 mph @ that time) That usually lifts my forks to their max. I close the throttle quickly and the force of the deceleration will drop the nose. As soon as the throttle closes I reopen it up quickly about 1/4-1/3 of the way and I usually spike to 11k rpm. The wheel will lift right up. No yanking on the handle bars and no throwing my weight forward and back ( which maxs me come into the lift not straight).

The whole time I am sitting in the middle of the seat. I do not have my boys up against the tank but my butt is not all the way back to the front of the passanger seat. With this spot I have found it to make it easier to get the lift then to be hugging the tank. But play with the rpm and amount of throttle.

I usually rip the throttle like I am going to race in 1st gear till I hit the powerband, once i hit it the forks lift all the way and when the throttle closes the forks collapse and when reopening the throttle in the powerband the forks bounce back up and will lift the front tire with ease.

No bounceing or weight shifting neccessary which will not through your wieght to the left or right by accident and without leaning forward then back, it will not give you a nasty jerk on your arms and crank the front tire to the side in the lift.

Hope this helps. From the neighborhood friend that is learning. I am by far not even close to being expert but from all the forums I talk to and read from stunters, They are so experienced that pulling awheelie from standing and clutching it is a cake for them. Trying to learn a wheelie with the clutch is not easy. Having my tire kick to the side on my 4 times in a row @ a slow 25 mph, keep me back with the way I explain until I get more familuar.

Any further ? about what I have experineced or little things I do to help, let me know and i will try to help but by all means I will not lead you with incorrect answers if I have not clue. I will not misslead.

But once again thanks for all your support/ input
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I appreciate all the support and all the support goes back out to you guys.

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Any further ? about what I have experineced or little things I do to help, let me know and i will try to help but by all means I will not lead you with incorrect answers if I have not clue. I will not misslead.

But once again thanks for all your support/ input

//Very interesting posts. Also very astute of you to not guess at answers when you don't know them, like a certain 14 year old nonriding wannabe is known to do.

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