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Audiomechanic · 06-07-2006, 10:25 PM

I've got about 3,500 miles on mine, but this makes me scared to ride her as well.

On the other hand, a friend of mine has the '05 1000 and has put almost 10,000 on the clock without any issues. Perhaps it's just a few bikes, perhaps most of them are timebombs waiting to happen.

Arg. I shoulda gone with the R1.

**Clint** · 06-08-2006, 08:18 AM

Fellas, they're not going to break from just riding. You have to slam them repeatedly. Keep an eye on that area for any signs of deformation and ride.

jkersh · 06-08-2006, 10:26 AM

So what happened with your bike? Did they give you a new one? Tell you to go to . Investigating? Would like to know how they address something like that.

Its Raining · 06-08-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Fellas, they're not going to break from just riding. You have to slam them repeatedly. Keep an eye on that area for any signs of deformation and ride.

You're probably right. But I'll be thinking about it every time I ride now. Which makes me feel a little less secure about the bike. Maybe I'll just go this weekend and see what kind of deal I can get in a trade.

92Notch · 06-08-2006, 04:56 PM

What's his name and them were just eyeing a gixxer-1000 ... looking her over real good, and the frame snapped right before their eyes. They said it was amazing and astounding... the decided not to ride the bike BTW.

**Clint** · 06-08-2006, 06:35 PM

LOL. Uh-huh.

**intimid8er** · 06-09-2006, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92Notch

What's his name and them were just eyeing a gixxer-1000 ... looking her over real good, and the frame snapped right before their eyes. They said it was amazing and astounding... the decided not to ride the bike BTW.

Ya know? It's always "them" that are always involved!!

badboy_trini · 06-11-2006, 02:48 AM

Thanks for that link

badboy_trini · 06-11-2006, 02:53 AM

One thing i don't do Rowdy is slam my baby around. FYI!

jkersh · 06-24-2006, 06:54 PM

So what happened with your bike?

GABRIEL · 06-25-2006, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy_trini

One thing i don't do Rowdy is slam my baby around. FYI!

COUGH*BULL$HIT*COUGH

mark · 07-12-2006, 01:19 PM

On the outside it appears this problem is of the same vintage as the Ford Explorer/Tire fiasco. Suzuki doesn't want to take ownership. However, unlike Explorers, people can and will wheelie their GSXR's which could gradually be killing the frames.

I have one other fundamental question, if this IS a problem, why have we heard nothing from all the racers? They bring the front end up all the time coming out of corners? I would think we would have heard from that world as well?

thoughts?

Apertureguy · 07-12-2006, 01:37 PM

My brother is a metallurgist (spelling?) or used to be a few years back. He has several patents in Aluminum Alloys. According to him...this would be a very common occurance. In many cases, the alloy (metal) is created by filling an aluminum tube with aluminum powder & a mix of the other stuff which causes the reaction to create the alloy. They will have usually "heat-treated" the aluminum while it was still in powder form (for hardness). Then, very often, they will push or compress these filled tubes while cold to form the alloy. Basically you end up with a hunk of a new type of metal. While very strong & very, very light...it's also very brittle.
One of his patents went for the seat tracks in F14's & oddly enough...they have had problems with the seats breaking free from the track. Go Figure!

D_Klein · 07-17-2006, 05:54 PM

One problem in working with metal is that the quality of the material isn't always consistent throughout. At my last job, I saw $10k plates sent to the scrap yard from time to time due to a botched machining operation because of the inconsistent quality of the metal.

That probably doesn't translate directly to the matter at hand, but nonetheless, if a bike goes down, sh1t breaks.

maddog20/20 · 07-17-2006, 09:42 PM

I would hire a private investigator and push Suzuki into paying for damages. Not only to the tune of medical bills but also a replacement bike of equal value of your choice. It's easy to run a ad in a newspaper asking others if they know anyone with a similar issue. Suzuki doesn't want to be in the headlines for a bad product.

I disagree about this model bike not being able to handle wheelies. If it can handle the stresses of hours on a track then it should without a doubt be able to handle a few wheelies! Hell, the pros stand them up down the straights during every race. Hard to watch that and then be told it CAN"T handle that kind of stress. I would fight it to the end, personally. Good luck and glad to hear your injuries were minor.

Ride Safe!

Kodatech · 08-21-2006, 08:14 PM

thats a little worrysome to anyone who rides a suzuki....gsxr or not. they should know that any literbike will wheelie on occasion, whether purposly or on accident. if a wheelie can brake the frame, what about a bump in the road under moderate to hard braking?

**Clint** · 08-21-2006, 08:55 PM

That's just it... a wheelie performed properly by a rider skilled enough to be on a Gix1000 in the first place won't break anything. It's the repeated slams from squidly behavior that do it. The bike's designed to be as light as possible for HANDLING reasons, not to be stunted.

06-07-2006, 10:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
Audiomechanic Where Am I ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Bike: 1994 Suzuki Katana 600 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 42	I've got about 3,500 miles on mine, but this makes me scared to ride her as well. On the other hand, a friend of mine has the '05 1000 and has put almost 10,000 on the clock without any issues. Perhaps it's just a few bikes, perhaps most of them are timebombs waiting to happen. Arg. I shoulda gone with the R1. __________________ Smile! Bugs are a good source of protein!

06-08-2006, 08:18 AM	#22 (permalink)
Clint Gainfully employed Join Date: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 1200 S Location: St. Cloud, MN, USA Posts: 20,114	Fellas, they're not going to break from just riding. You have to slam them repeatedly. Keep an eye on that area for any signs of deformation and ride. __________________ 'Busa shock, Racetech forks, Holeshot stage 1 & pipe, Hella headlights, CBRXX clipons, Givi bags, Zumo 550, Conti Road Attacks \| Symtec grip heat Arai Signet GTR \| Joe Rocket Meteor boots, Alter Ego pants, jacket \| Alpinestars SP-1 gloves \| Hanes boxer-briefs Gems for motorcyclists

06-08-2006, 10:26 AM	#23 (permalink)
jkersh Wants Better Weather Join Date: Apr 2006 Bike: 2002 ACE Location: 34 59.613n 094 30.852w Posts: 652	So what happened with your bike? Did they give you a new one? Tell you to go to . Investigating? Would like to know how they address something like that. __________________ There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

06-08-2006, 04:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
92Notch Birthday Boy Join Date: Aug 2005 Bike: '05½ C50 Limited Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 860	What's his name and them were just eyeing a gixxer-1000 ... looking her over real good, and the frame snapped right before their eyes. They said it was amazing and astounding... the decided not to ride the bike BTW. __________________

06-08-2006, 06:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
Clint Gainfully employed Join Date: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 1200 S Location: St. Cloud, MN, USA Posts: 20,114	LOL. Uh-huh. __________________ 'Busa shock, Racetech forks, Holeshot stage 1 & pipe, Hella headlights, CBRXX clipons, Givi bags, Zumo 550, Conti Road Attacks \| Symtec grip heat Arai Signet GTR \| Joe Rocket Meteor boots, Alter Ego pants, jacket \| Alpinestars SP-1 gloves \| Hanes boxer-briefs Gems for motorcyclists

06-11-2006, 02:48 AM	#28 (permalink)
badboy_trini Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Bike: 95YZF600,04GSXR1K,01SHADOW, 06GSXR1K Location: Miami, FL Posts: 17	Thanks for that link

06-11-2006, 02:53 AM	#29 (permalink)
badboy_trini Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Bike: 95YZF600,04GSXR1K,01SHADOW, 06GSXR1K Location: Miami, FL Posts: 17	One thing i don't do Rowdy is slam my baby around. FYI! Last edited by badboy_trini; 06-11-2006 at 02:55 AM.

06-24-2006, 06:54 PM	#30 (permalink)
jkersh Wants Better Weather Join Date: Apr 2006 Bike: 2002 ACE Location: 34 59.613n 094 30.852w Posts: 652	So what happened with your bike? __________________ There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

07-12-2006, 01:19 PM	#32 (permalink)
mark In Training Join Date: Jul 2005 Bike: 2003 GSXR-600 Location: PA Posts: 113	On the outside it appears this problem is of the same vintage as the Ford Explorer/Tire fiasco. Suzuki doesn't want to take ownership. However, unlike Explorers, people can and will wheelie their GSXR's which could gradually be killing the frames. I have one other fundamental question, if this IS a problem, why have we heard nothing from all the racers? They bring the front end up all the time coming out of corners? I would think we would have heard from that world as well? thoughts? __________________ He who rides on the back of a tiger may never safely dismount.

07-12-2006, 01:37 PM	#33 (permalink)
Apertureguy M-J Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: New York Posts: 3,856	My brother is a metallurgist (spelling?) or used to be a few years back. He has several patents in Aluminum Alloys. According to him...this would be a very common occurance. In many cases, the alloy (metal) is created by filling an aluminum tube with aluminum powder & a mix of the other stuff which causes the reaction to create the alloy. They will have usually "heat-treated" the aluminum while it was still in powder form (for hardness). Then, very often, they will push or compress these filled tubes while cold to form the alloy. Basically you end up with a hunk of a new type of metal. While very strong & very, very light...it's also very brittle. One of his patents went for the seat tracks in F14's & oddly enough...they have had problems with the seats breaking free from the track. Go Figure!

07-17-2006, 05:54 PM	#34 (permalink)
D_Klein 100% Title Free Join Date: Feb 2006 Bike: '05 GSX-R750 (Anniversary Edition) Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,544	One problem in working with metal is that the quality of the material isn't always consistent throughout. At my last job, I saw $10k plates sent to the scrap yard from time to time due to a botched machining operation because of the inconsistent quality of the metal. That probably doesn't translate directly to the matter at hand, but nonetheless, if a bike goes down, sh1t breaks. __________________ "Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba...." ~Hunter S. Thompson

07-17-2006, 09:42 PM	#35 (permalink)
maddog20/20 In Training Join Date: Jun 2006 Bike: 06 Roadliner Location: Merced, Ca. Posts: 128	I would hire a private investigator and push Suzuki into paying for damages. Not only to the tune of medical bills but also a replacement bike of equal value of your choice. It's easy to run a ad in a newspaper asking others if they know anyone with a similar issue. Suzuki doesn't want to be in the headlines for a bad product. I disagree about this model bike not being able to handle wheelies. If it can handle the stresses of hours on a track then it should without a doubt be able to handle a few wheelies! Hell, the pros stand them up down the straights during every race. Hard to watch that and then be told it CAN"T handle that kind of stress. I would fight it to the end, personally. Good luck and glad to hear your injuries were minor. Ride Safe!

08-21-2006, 08:14 PM	#36 (permalink)
Kodatech Handlebar Consultant Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 617	thats a little worrysome to anyone who rides a suzuki....gsxr or not. they should know that any literbike will wheelie on occasion, whether purposly or on accident. if a wheelie can brake the frame, what about a bump in the road under moderate to hard braking?

08-21-2006, 08:55 PM	#37 (permalink)
Clint Gainfully employed Join Date: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 1200 S Location: St. Cloud, MN, USA Posts: 20,114	That's just it... a wheelie performed properly by a rider skilled enough to be on a Gix1000 in the first place won't break anything. It's the repeated slams from squidly behavior that do it. The bike's designed to be as light as possible for HANDLING reasons, not to be stunted. __________________ 'Busa shock, Racetech forks, Holeshot stage 1 & pipe, Hella headlights, CBRXX clipons, Givi bags, Zumo 550, Conti Road Attacks \| Symtec grip heat Arai Signet GTR \| Joe Rocket Meteor boots, Alter Ego pants, jacket \| Alpinestars SP-1 gloves \| Hanes boxer-briefs Gems for motorcyclists

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