What is the quicker and faster bike?

[jaydog19833]

I agree with you Rocket. When it comes down to it the ZX10-R would be my choice. It may be back a few cc's or HP from a 1300 but if you want the best all around race bike that would be more up your alley. Besides; unless you're drag racing professionally how many times are you gonna bury the speedo on the road? haha and if you bury if often I hope the lord has blessed you with good luck.

[Smashinz2002]

Yeah that's a good point you guys have brought up about how fast can a rider actually go, in a given situation. I bet some people who buy 'Busas' have no idea what they are getting themselves into, and would probably be just as thrilled from riding something like a Bandit 1200 (that will also push your eyeballs back and sling you to 100+ pretty quick).
Oh yeah, by the way, today I went riding with a friend who has an S83, and I was on my Bandit, and when we both came upon a long straight, we both nailed our bikes. His S83 (a suzuki 1400 v-twin cruiser) tops out at 95mph.. did anyone know they were so slow? My bandit is just getting started at that speed. It's really pathetic because he paid 1k more for his bike.

[S83]

Better have it checked (S83). Mine is still pulling hard at 95mph. Granted an S83 is no match for a 1200 Bandit (and shouldn't be).

[Trapper]

Originally Posted by Smashinz2002

Yeah that's a good point you guys have brought up about how fast can a rider actually go, in a given situation. I bet some people who buy 'Busas' have no idea what they are getting themselves into, and would probably be just as thrilled from riding something like a Bandit 1200 (that will also push your eyeballs back and sling you to 100+ pretty quick).
Oh yeah, by the way, today I went riding with a friend who has an S83, and I was on my Bandit, and when we both came upon a long straight, we both nailed our bikes. His S83 (a suzuki 1400 v-twin cruiser) tops out at 95mph.. did anyone know they were so slow? My bandit is just getting started at that speed. It's really pathetic because he paid 1k more for his bike.

It's a cruiser. I don't think anyone buys a S83 to go over 95 MPH all the time. Price doesn't always mean speed.

[jaydog19833]

With cruisers price usually means brand name. Hint Hint.....

[Smashinz2002]

Good point, Trappercase, jaydog. It's just that ya know, surely some cruiser guys out there on the open road, out in the desert somewhere, would like to cruise at 100, at least some of the time.
And S83. . really? Is your bike stock? My friend's bike is totally stock and just won't pull anything over 95. Seems to run fine otherwise. A little cold-natured though.
L.L.

'05 B12

[inspiron]

The top-end speed of any bike is always determined by a number of factors ... and is always the result of a comprimise.

My bike, the GSX 1400, is designed as a long-boar powerhouse. With 1400 ccm displacement, it puts out 106 horsepower. The Hayabusa has 100ccm less displacement, but designed to put out more power - about 175 horsepower.

The GSX 1400, a naked bike, is rated at 235 kmh (about 145 mph), but realistically, it is very uncomfortable above about 160 kmh (100 mph).

The Hayabusa is very aerodynamic, and can use the power it generates to launch the rider forward at more than 275 kmh (170 mph).

However, speed isn't important, unless you are on a track or the German Autobahn. As long as you are on public streets, there's no need for a 100+ mph bike.

[Clint]

Long boar?

[Ludo]

Originally Posted by Smashinz2002

Good point, Trappercase, jaydog. It's just that ya know, surely some cruiser guys out there on the open road, out in the desert somewhere, would like to cruise at 100, at least some of the time.
And S83. . really? Is your bike stock? My friend's bike is totally stock and just won't pull anything over 95. Seems to run fine otherwise. A little cold-natured though.
L.L.

'05 B12

I've pushed my C50 past 100 by accident a few times (passing without paying enough attention to actual speed) and it was still pulling. The S83 has roughly 40% more displacement and is almost 10 pounds lighter so I'd imagine it should easily perform at least as well...

[Hayaboosta]

1980kz1300 welcome my friend. I myself was looking for something not just HP's or performance but mainly for comfortability and having something that no one else had in my town. Being 6'4" I didn't care for much of the other sport bikes (R1,1000RR,GSXR1000) I just didn't fit right nor did some of them feel right for me. I never really cared for the looks of the Busa but it grew on me and being able to test ride one I was able to see how much I liked the bike. Since my purchase of the 05 Busa I have modified it to where I am happy but still have a few things I would like to do. I bought it back in March brand new and put it away for the winter with 7862 on the clock, some 20 mile days and a few 500+ days. Comfort I would rate a 10 for me, it's an added plus here to with the Busa on insurance it's much lower than if I had GSXR1000 being here it's considered a sport touring model

[jewfzr]

Originally Posted by 1980KZ1300

What is the quicker and faster bike, 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa or 2005 Suzuki GSX R1000. Does anyone know the factory HP for either or both of these machines.

What about when comparing the same bikes for 2006?

These are the "hard numbers" from Motorcyclist.
03 busa"unchanged for 05" HP 156.1 @ 9500 RPM/ Torque99lb-ft@6750
The gsxr # are from cycle world so they are from a different dyno
156 hp 78.9 torque measured top speed 184 1/14 time 10.03 144 mph
The Busa is not going to go any faster then 187 I believe. quarter time on the busa was 9.88 @ 143.9
According to motorcyclist mag. the king of HP is the zx10 at 163. There a bunch of bikes right at the 160 mark. The differences there are really small. Of course the Busa towers over all of these in the Torque area with the exeption of the new zx14 which was just on a dyno at muzzys and made 183 at the tire. No torque figures but I imagine they will be at least 100 ft lb.

[Tour-n-busa]

Originally Posted by nhoel

i came by to the dealer yesterday and saw a busa and a gixxer on the floor room. I asked this very same question, and he claims both are almost the same. Busa would probably beat the gixxer in a straight line by a hair. What got me all excited was his comment on the busa when I asked if it had a gear indicator... "It don't matter what gear you're on, you'll break the speed limit with it."

Very true. The torque of the busa is outstanding for an I-4! The choice between the Gixxer and the Busa ultimatly comes down to what you do most with a bike. The Gixxer will definatly out do a Busa in the twisties,but the Busa is more refined. It's longer and heavier= better ride,it has better ergos,more comfy seat,(seats), power is better for real world (everyday-street)-much better for all day riding and will still tear up a 1/4 mile. It's the torque thingy that the Busa has thats impressive. And that "it don't matter what gear" thing is truth. I'm still constantly searching for 7th gear on my Busa because power at cruising rpm's makes you think you must still be in 5th.
Motorcyclist dyno data: 03 busa 156.1 hp@9500rpm-99.0ft-lbs@6750rpm
04 gixxer 150.5hp@11,000rpm-77.2ft-lbs@8250rpm

99ft-lbs at 6750rpm's THATS IMPRESSIVE!! And it translates into way better street power. And if thats still not enough(it is for me) there are many ways to still get more,(for both bikes). But making more power at lower rpm's to begin with is still better in my book. Add the stability, aerodynamics, and comfort of the Busa and its another big plus. I've added Buell footpegs, a Gen-mar 19mm riser, Heli-bars, and a Zero Gravity touring windscreen to mine to make it even more comfy for long rides and all are mods that would take less than an hour to reverse if need be. (Cycle World quote:"Do yourself a big favor. Rent,beg,borrow or steal a ride on a suzuki hayabusa ......... there is nothing else street legal powered by an internal-combustion engine that compares" Enough said.

[Tour-n-busa]

By the way hello to everyone, I just joined this site, and that was my first post here.

[jewfzr]

Hey Tour-n Busa. Sounds like you have a great ride there.
I just muzzy HP figures on the new zx14 Kaw. 183hp at the tire. No torque #s yet but I'm sure they'll be over 100. I saw this thing at the IMS in seattle. Its not that bad looking but it does have a weird George Forman grill looking thing just under and in front of the tank.
I've been hearing rumors of a Busa update in the works. It's been around a while now. I would have never thought it would become the cult hit it has. Really an amazing bike that will be hard to replace.

[fireblade1]

Gotta go with the consensus here.

As a former Hayabusa and gsxr owner, I have to give some quick info.

Definately go with the gsxr if you want to handle twistys or road tracks. The Hayabusa has some of the worst cornering ability on the market, but it can corner much better with a passenger than it does with a solo rider (and that's a proven fact).

Straight line: With the introduction of Titanium engine parts, you may have your hands full trying to outrun a Busa on a 1000, but it just might be possible due to thrust-to-weight comparrisons on both. The gix will have such a sick thrust to weight ratio that it should make the Busa hang it's head in shame. Yet the Busa is aerodynamically set up for one purpose....SPEED!

Aero-bubble comparrison notes: Every motorcycle creates an aero-bubble. This is the aerodynamic bubble surrounding the bike as it tears through the air. With several gsxr models, you will notice that at around 130-150 mph, the bike creates enough aero-bubble suction behind the rider that it acts like a vacuum and tries to pull the rider away from the windscreen toward the tail of the bike regardless of how hard the rider attempts to stay tucked. The 750 is extremely bad about this above 145 mph where the 1000 starts this issue around 155 + or -.
However, the Hayabusa has been engineered to counteract or prevent the rearward aero-bubble vacuum that would normally be created. Even at speeds of 175 + mph, it rarely feels like you're making the effort to crouch. Often, you can almost lay across the tank and rest while you pin the throttle back and hang on! Personally, I had pegged my Busa out at 187 on the speedo. The only issue I had was figuring out what position to keep my head in so that I didn't get my helmet pushed against my chin and create drag.

Both are exceptional machines with two totally different purposes for existance and no one fooled the insurance companies by calling the Hayabusa a Sport/Touring bike.

Good luck.

[Tour-n-busa]

Originally Posted by jewfzr

Hey Tour-n Busa. Sounds like you have a great ride there.
I just muzzy HP figures on the new zx14 Kaw. 183hp at the tire. No torque #s yet but I'm sure they'll be over 100. I saw this thing at the IMS in seattle. Its not that bad looking but it does have a weird George Forman grill looking thing just under and in front of the tank.
I've been hearing rumors of a Busa update in the works. It's been around a while now. I would have never thought it would become the cult hit it has. Really an amazing bike that will be hard to replace.

Thanks, yeah I'm pretty happy with it. Still a few mods I wanna do yet but all in time. The next one will probably be a HID as the stock lights absolutly suck on the Busa. It looks like the speed wars are back on again and they can have at 'er . 156 hp and 99 ft-lbs is all I'll ever need. I think Kawi will have their hands full trying to outsell the Busa though. I'm not trying to badmouth the Kawi, but that thing is UGLY. Then again the Busa ain't no beauty qeen either, but I don't buy a bike to look at, I buy it to ride.
As far as what was said about the Busa's handling, I wouldn't go as far as to say its that bad,but it ain't no track bike and I don't think anyone would ever buy one thinking it was. I do think it handles very well with a passenger on though. Then again, my last bike was a V-MAX.

[Busafied]

Faster and Quicker

as mentioned I think you need to figure out what it is you do mainly, then test ride and get the feel for the 1k or the busa/

gixxer is gonna corner well from the start, a busa can be rifined to rail almost as well (keyword "almost)/
I know Nickslick has a totally carbonfibered busa (body etc) and his uses a shorter arm (used to, not 100% sure now).
He live's in Cali and rides palomar all the time/

heres his site: http://www.nickslick.com/

and a nice vid of a 1k chasing him down palomar/

http://www.nickslick.com/nico/movies/01fly-small.wmv

again it all comes down to the Rider's Skill level... always has on bikes so close/

topspeed by design = busa | agility by design = 1k

1999 & 2000 yrs were the only one's not top speed restricted, '01 up you need a TRE to bypass the restrictor.

Choose your poison & enjoy the ride.

Peace & happy hollidays all,
Ron

[SBK]

My opinion is the Hayabusa has more legs up top however in STOCK form i think the GSXR1000 would win 1/4 mile wise......

The busa makes power but also has more weight aswell.

Either way there both awesome bikes just built for 2 totallt different jobs so its a little hard to compare