@ SV owners

[fundyrider]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

No, actually there's a significant difference. When I'm loaded with two-up and camping gear, I can get to 55 a hell of a lot quicker with my 1157cc engine that I could if I had a 250cc engine. When I'm at 10,000 feet I can ride at a brisk pace. When I want to wheelie, I can. It's useful and practical. Fairings, on the other hand, do nothing but look cool. Your analogy is neither parallel nor valid.

I've got nothing against choice or personaliziation. I'm just saying there's no reason to buy a sportbike with fairings unless you like the looks.

Exactly, "unless you like the looks" not because they are trying to impress others which would be the primary goal of a poser.
What I took offence to was you stating that people who buy sportbikes with fairings branded them as a posers, you crossed the line from opinion on fairings to judgement on owners, as an administrator of this forum you should be a little more guarded about passing judgement on others, certainly you must have realized that calling owners of fairinged sportbikes "posers" would be slamming the forum members who own these bikes. Opinion is acceptable, judgement is not.
Wheelies useful and practical? I guess if your trying to save the front tire from wearing out
Peter

[SVZuki]

K, I haven't seen a bike in person with a set of full fairings on it. I am talking about an SV. How far to they stick out from the side of the bike near where your knee and legs are?? wouldn't it provide soooome sort of wind cover?? that and the fairing could reduce water spray from the front tire...Whiiich is an important thing on the SV's because I found out the bike doesn't take to rain well when water can easy get thrown down the spark plug well...I dunno Iam just asking these questions hoping someone who has the full fairings can answer...dunno how far they come up the front of the bike or how far they stick out..Im guessing hardly at all. My buddy who has an older honda 750 nighthawk i believe has the removable front clip. and the fairings stick out about 4-5 inches where his legs are, so it blocks the wind a good amount.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by fundyrider

Exactly, "unless you like the looks" not because they are trying to impress others which would be the primary goal of a poser.
What I took offence to was you stating that people who buy sportbikes with fairings branded them as a posers, you crossed the line from opinion on fairings to judgement on owners, as an administrator of this forum you should be a little more guarded about passing judgement on others, certainly you must have realized that calling owners of fairinged sportbikes "posers" would be slamming the forum members who own these bikes. Opinion is acceptable, judgement is not.
Wheelies useful and practical? I guess if your trying to save the front tire from wearing out
Peter

First, no I didn't. I never strayed from discussing the usefulness of fairings. I made no derogatory statement about our members. In fact, I went out of my way to say the contrary, and to clarify that I was speaking to the usefulness of fairings in regards to motorcycle selection. Read it again. I think your logic is faulty. If anything, it could be implied that I said some people who buy motorcycles solely because they look like racebikes are posers. It's a stretch to say I directed it at any of us or everyone who owns a race-replica bike.

Second, the power my bike makes is useful. Fairings designed to increase top speed are not unless you're at the track. You gain nothing whatsoever from a sportbike fairing unless you're over 100 mph. What's so hard to understand about that?

Thirdly, I like the look of fairings. If I ever got around to buying an SV, I'd immediately look for the factory lowers. But I certainly don't deny that it's solely for poser value (meaning I like the look of it and it ain't good for anything more). Generally, "liking the looks of it" is synonymous with "likes how I look on it" which means "hopes others think I look good on it" which = "poser value". Let's not beat around the bush on that, eh?

Just because a bike has poser value doesn't make the owner a poser. Is that clear enough?

[visser]

No way am I getting in the middle of this one!

But I will say that when I ride a dirt bike at +50 miles an hour on a road, the wind impact and noise are noticeably greater than my sportbike (I have no experience riding a naked street bike or non-wind screened cruiser). Granted, it's a narrower bike than a street bike, but it's a useful comparison nonetheless. The diversion of wind around the knees and, if we're assuming the front fairing and it's wind screen are part of this discussion, upper body by the fairing seems noticeable to me on the highway, and most magazine reviews say the same when reviewing naked bikes. Hell, just adding a double bubble windscreen made a big difference on my bike at speeds between 55 and 80 (the normal highway range, right?). My neck is certainly happier.

Maybe it comes down to how senstive each rider is to wind. Will you go faster with the fairing? Probably not. Will you feel more stable? I do. For some of us its existence is welcome.

[fundyrider]

I guess I'm just stupid, sorry for misinterpeting you.

[Clint]

No need to go off the deep end.

Visser, there's no doubt that an upper fairing and windscreen make life more pleasant. My first two bikes were totally nekkid, and when I bought the Bandit I was thrilled at the wind protection. 70 mph was no longer a battle agains the wind.

Those skin-tight lowers on sportbikes do nothing to protect your legs. Lowers on bikes like the ST, FJR, and the like have depressions for your legs that clear the air.

I have to recant some of my earlier statement. Lower fairings sometimes provide airflow to cooling systems. So, I admit, they do provide some function at lower speeds.

[CManT1914]

Well if we're talking fairings now......

.......I don't think they do anything........ except make the bike look nicer (in my opinion). I like the looks of a full-fairing bike over a half or naked bike almost 100% of the time. I'm not a poser, I just like fairings. To me, a bike without fairings is like a car without a front bumper, lol.

[Clint]

I thought you of all people would appreciate the mechanics of a bike.

To me, fairings are artificial and hide the real beauty of the machine. It's like putting a big plastic cover over a BMW engine - it's only there to make the people who are intimidated by mechanical things feel better.

There are some bikes that look great, though. I'm a big fan of the Yamahas. That R1 is like death incarnate. Mmmm... death incarnate.

[jkulysses]

I wouldn't go as far as saying that everybody who has a full fairing bike is a poser.

[CManT1914]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

I thought you of all people would appreciate the mechanics of a bike.

Me? I do appreciate the mechanics of a bike. But then again, I wouldn't drive the mustang around without a hood just so people could appreciate my engine.

I agree about the engine covers on a upper class car. I hate them. It's not like they protect the engine from anything (except maybe tampering from the owner), the hood does that (from the rain etc.). But on a bike, wouldn't the fairings provide some protection for the engine?

[Clint]

Not really, except against minor corrosion. You could argue that fairings trap moisture and hide dirt and corrosion, making them more of a hindrance to good maintenance.

[St0nkingByte]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Full fairings are nothing but sales dressing on a street bike. Most of our members are genuine motorcyclists and not posers. They want a bike that performs as well as they need it to and fits them comfortably...

Amen brother!

[jkulysses]

It really just comes down to personal pref. Just like how most the Harley guys say that us cruizers guys are posers cause we have Jap. cruizers. I personally think Harleys are overrated and overpriced, that is why I got an M50, not because I'm a poser.

[CManT1914]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Not really, except against minor corrosion. You could argue that fairings trap moisture and hide dirt and corrosion, making them more of a hindrance to good maintenance.

That makes sense but.............

Originally Posted by jkulysses

It really just comes down to personal pref. Just like how most the Harley guys say that us cruizers guys are posers cause we have Jap. cruizers. I personally think Harleys are overrated and overpriced, that is why I got an M50, not because I'm a poser.

............I gotta agree with this guy. It's all opinion. Personally I'm not a fan of ANY cruiser, does that make me a poser? No, I just prefer sport bikes, and full fairinged ones.

[Clint]

No, it doesn't, as long as you admit that the fairings are there for looks and looks alone. If you think they make you a racer (which no one here does), you're a poser.

I'd ride a Repsol replica in a heartbeat.

[CManT1914]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

No, it doesn't, as long as you admit that the fairings are there for looks and looks alone. If you think they make you a racer (which no one here does), you're a poser.

lol, that's kind of like guys who get in there GT's or Z28's, or even an SRT4 and think they have a racecar and are the fastest thing on the street.

[Dizzle]

Originally Posted by jkulysses

I personally think Harleys are overrated and overpriced, that is why I got an M50, not because I'm a poser.

totally agree, I'm from a town that I'm out numbered by Hardleys at least 10 to 1, I catch hell all the time if I'm at a gas station, I personally love the line "nice bike maybe I should trade mine in and buy 6 or 7 of them." Then I usually reply with, "how does it make you feel that you paid 6 or 7 times what I did and got 6 or 7 times less practicality for *true riding*?" Then I usually get the "its all about cruisin man!" speech and blah blah blah trying to justify their purchase of a maybe $12,000 bike that came with a $30,000 name. But I do get along with most- most of them are good guys but there's always the handfull that have convinced themselves they're riding the greatest 2 wheeled creation just irritating

[Dizzle]

Originally Posted by SVboy84

K, I haven't seen a bike in person with a set of full fairings on it. I am talking about an SV.

you can check mine out on ebay, its the yellow 04'......its a side shot but you can get the idea.

[monica]

cost and comfort

[Nexus242]

Originally Posted by GixxerFanboi

I notice a ton of you guys are on SV650's. Just curious why you went with the SV over the Gixxer's. Cheaper Insurance? The Semi-Naked look? Not a flame at all since I think the SV650S is a beautiful bike, just curious why not a fully-dressed bike?

Well there is more to a motorcycle then having fairings on it. Your basicly asking something like this "I drive a honda, why don't you??"


However for $400 or less you can take the half faired SVS and make it into a fully faired bike with out all the sport bike graphics.

Cyclerider105's 05 SVS650 from SVRider.Com




And FYI I would take the this SVS over a GSXR in a heartbeat!!! Yellow is so hot!!!