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demingrickjames · 02-25-2008, 11:01 AM

You must spin the rear alot. I do it occasionally when I launch it hard off the line,(mostly when blowing the doors off Harleys), But I don't ride like that all the time.

What's your source for new rubber?

Do you use the oem tire or something different?

WillieWherry · 02-25-2008, 12:36 PM

Air pressure, air pressure, air pressure. Is the most important thing to watch on your machine. Low pressure will cup and destroy your tires. Don't ask me how I know. Your bikes engine is moved forward so the weight is balanced on the tires. So low pressure in ether tire or both will throw the handling way off and your bike will shake and shimmy big time.
Willie

Jammin'John · 02-25-2008, 01:02 PM

Naw,I don't do burnouts but I do like to accelerate A LOT !

I run the dunlop elite 3 for gold wing 1800 on the front.
I run a car tire on the back !

Goodyear Assurance TripleTred
The strato rocks.
For performance all I'm gonna do is the patrick BAK,pc3,& for sound the D&D slip on.

JJ

WillieWherry · 02-27-2008, 07:50 AM

I sure would not want to put your bike into a turn at any high speed. A square top car tire will never have the cornering aspects or the grip of a bike tire. I think you have a bike looking for a wreck to happen. It must handle real squirrely in any type highway turns. Car tires are not made to roll up on there sides like a bike tire. I think your asking for trouble.

Willie

Jammin'John · 02-27-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillieWherry

I sure would not want to put your bike into a turn at any high speed. A square top car tire will never have the cornering aspects or the grip of a bike tire.

Actually it grips BETTER !

I think you have a bike looking for a wreck to happen. It must handle real squirrely in any type highway turns. Car tires are not made to roll up on there sides like a bike tire. I think your asking for trouble.Willie

My riding buddies said that if anything I ride FASTER !
The rear bike tire on your bike doesn't roll up on the sides,the FRONT one does that. Lean your bike WAY over in your driveway and you'll see what I mean.
In a corner the car tire has MORE rubber on the road than your bike tire !
The car tire rides quieter,LOWERS braking distances,and is safer to plug when you get a flat !

It may not be for YOU willie but I like it !

JJ

demingrickjames · 02-27-2008, 11:42 AM

I've never even considered running a car tire on a bike. I'll probably stick with bike tires, maybe another brand.

I already installed the Patrick Racing intake on mine, but went with the Cobra fuel processor instead of the PCIII. Mainly for the ease of installation & setup. (The cobra took 10 minutes to install and was ready to run.)

Didn't dyno it before or after, but it sure seems to have more grunt and more volume. I can't wait for the new pipes to get here so I can really make some noise!

WillieWherry · 02-27-2008, 06:06 PM

Jammin'John I don't know what your drinking or smoking. On the straight you will have more traction. But on a road corner you not going to have jack when you lay it over. Cars corner flat. Bikes role up on the edge when they corner. As in both wheels lean. That is unless your on a trike or you have a hack. Even the fat boy tires have rolled up sides. John your looking for real trouble. You have a slick with tread. It's going to be real squirrely in the rain. You will be duck walking it in the turns.

Good luck. That's why they call them car tires and bike tires. Bike tires are round. Car tires are flat. What were you thinking?
I never fix a flat on a road bike. I buy a new tire. My life is not going to depend on a patch or plug. 50 years of riding and going strong. Blowouts and flats kill riders.

Willie

Jammin'John · 02-27-2008, 07:00 PM

[quote=WillieWherry;413639]Jammin'John I don't know what your drinking or smoking. On the straight you will have more traction. But on a road corner you not going to have jack when you lay it over.

NOT true.
There is more rubber ON THE ROAD in a curve than with the bike tire.

Cars corner flat.

I'm NOT talking about cars.

Bikes role up on the edge when they corner. As in both wheels lean.

On short wheelbase crotch rockets that's true !

That is unless your on a trike or you have a hack. Even the fat boy tires have rolled up sides. John your looking for real trouble. You have a slick with tread. It's going to be real squirrely in the rain.

NO !
It's MUCH better in the rain than the bike tire.

You will be duck walking it in the turns.

Good luck. That's why they call them car tires and bike tires. Bike tires are round. Car tires are flat. What were you thinking?

Not my idea.
Hundreds of riders have been doing this for a long time !

I never fix a flat on a road bike. I buy a new tire.

Good for you.
If I'm stranded and nothings open then I fix it and ride home.

My life is not going to depend on a patch or plug. 50 years of riding and going strong. Blowouts and flats kill riders.

Look,willie.
All kidding aside,I don't want to argue about this.

Just stop flaming me,OK ?
I was just answering demingrickjames question.

Ride safe and often my brother.

Arguing is wasted energy.

JJ

WillieWherry · 02-28-2008, 10:34 AM

I'm not flaming you John.

I just want you to ride safe and be safe. In 50 plus years of riding and racing. I have ridden many different bikes and combinations. I have learned a few things and I have burred a few ridding buddies. Good luck.

Willie

Jammin'John · 02-28-2008, 06:49 PM

Thanks for your concern.

I'm no spring chicken myself.
I've been in many accidents.

I've had bad times.
If I could get 30,000 miles out of a $150 bike tire I'd have one on her.
It's even more than the money though.
In a given season I would need 5 rear tires.

Not only is that WAY to much money for me to come up with but having to change maybe 3 or 4 tires during the busy season is just too much BS.
It's a PITA to try & get service when the shops are real busy.
I absolutely love to ride,been doin' it all my life and honestly,I have no problem with the car tire.
To each his own.
Ride safe and often.

JJ

Stratoliner Blue · 02-29-2008, 12:53 PM

JJ, you will never convince some people that a car tire isn't safe, they just don't get the "darkside" thing. I am very interested in one when the time comes. Do you have nay pictures of that tire on your bike?

Jammin'John · 02-29-2008, 03:36 PM

Here you go !

JJ

Jammin'John · 03-01-2008, 12:56 PM

http://forums.delphiforums.com/starr...es?msg=6779.55

The Dark Side

JJ

demingrickjames · 03-03-2008, 11:31 AM

The car tire looks pretty cool. Something to consider anyway.

I'll probably stick with the oe tires.

I found the front for $110, but the cheapest I can find the rear for is about $330.

It seems the 190/60 R17 is made specifically for the Liner.

I probably wont need a new rear for a couple months anyway so I'll keep looking.

I read "The Dark Side", and I'm now seriously considering a car tire for the rear of my Liner.
What size & brand have you been running, Jammin?

Jammin'John · 03-03-2008, 11:44 AM

The Dunlop Elite III for 1800 Gold Wing is THE BEST front tire for the liner !

$330 for a rear tire,what are you thinkin' ?

Some folks use the one for a newer harley,a lot cheaper than $330.

My car tire was $137 delivered,80,000 mile tire.

Buy what makes you happy !

JJ

demingrickjames · 03-03-2008, 12:02 PM

I hear you. What tire do you have on the rear?

Jammin'John · 03-04-2008, 09:29 AM

Goodyear Assurance TripleTred

All season radial.

JJ

demingrickjames · 03-04-2008, 05:23 PM

Thanks. I found that tire online for about $135.

I'm going over as soon as I wear the stock tire out.

Jammin'John · 03-04-2008, 06:01 PM

What is your inseam ?

JJ

demingrickjames · 03-04-2008, 08:07 PM

36" inseam. I"ll still be able to put both feet down flat & then some.

02-25-2008, 01:02 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jammin'John Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Honda Valkyrie Location: http://www.tughilltomorrowlandtrust.org/region.htm Posts: 332	Burn Outs Naw,I don't do burnouts but I do like to accelerate A LOT ! I run the dunlop elite 3 for gold wing 1800 on the front. I run a car tire on the back ! Goodyear Assurance TripleTred The strato rocks. For performance all I'm gonna do is the patrick BAK,pc3,& for sound the D&D slip on. JJ __________________ I don't care what you ride as long as you RIDE ! JJ

02-27-2008, 11:42 AM	#26 (permalink)
demingrickjames Ditch Magnet Join Date: Feb 2008 Bike: 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner Location: Deming, NM Posts: 167	I've never even considered running a car tire on a bike. I'll probably stick with bike tires, maybe another brand. I already installed the Patrick Racing intake on mine, but went with the Cobra fuel processor instead of the PCIII. Mainly for the ease of installation & setup. (The cobra took 10 minutes to install and was ready to run.) Didn't dyno it before or after, but it sure seems to have more grunt and more volume. I can't wait for the new pipes to get here so I can really make some noise! __________________

02-27-2008, 06:06 PM	#27 (permalink)
WillieWherry Clunked into first gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: 06 Roadliner Location: South East Michigan Posts: 200	Jammin'John I don't know what your drinking or smoking. On the straight you will have more traction. But on a road corner you not going to have jack when you lay it over. Cars corner flat. Bikes role up on the edge when they corner. As in both wheels lean. That is unless your on a trike or you have a hack. Even the fat boy tires have rolled up sides. John your looking for real trouble. You have a slick with tread. It's going to be real squirrely in the rain. You will be duck walking it in the turns. Good luck. That's why they call them car tires and bike tires. Bike tires are round. Car tires are flat. What were you thinking? I never fix a flat on a road bike. I buy a new tire. My life is not going to depend on a patch or plug. 50 years of riding and going strong. Blowouts and flats kill riders. Willie Last edited by WillieWherry; 02-27-2008 at 06:18 PM.

02-27-2008, 07:00 PM	#28 (permalink)
Jammin'John Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Honda Valkyrie Location: http://www.tughilltomorrowlandtrust.org/region.htm Posts: 332	Listen [quote=WillieWherry;413639]Jammin'John I don't know what your drinking or smoking. On the straight you will have more traction. But on a road corner you not going to have jack when you lay it over. NOT true. There is more rubber ON THE ROAD in a curve than with the bike tire. Cars corner flat. I'm NOT talking about cars. Bikes role up on the edge when they corner. As in both wheels lean. On short wheelbase crotch rockets that's true ! That is unless your on a trike or you have a hack. Even the fat boy tires have rolled up sides. John your looking for real trouble. You have a slick with tread. It's going to be real squirrely in the rain. NO ! It's MUCH better in the rain than the bike tire. You will be duck walking it in the turns. Good luck. That's why they call them car tires and bike tires. Bike tires are round. Car tires are flat. What were you thinking? Not my idea. Hundreds of riders have been doing this for a long time ! I never fix a flat on a road bike. I buy a new tire. Good for you. If I'm stranded and nothings open then I fix it and ride home. My life is not going to depend on a patch or plug. 50 years of riding and going strong. Blowouts and flats kill riders. Look,willie. All kidding aside,I don't want to argue about this. Just stop flaming me,OK ? I was just answering demingrickjames question. Ride safe and often my brother. Arguing is wasted energy. JJ __________________ I don't care what you ride as long as you RIDE ! JJ

02-28-2008, 10:34 AM	#29 (permalink)
WillieWherry Clunked into first gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: 06 Roadliner Location: South East Michigan Posts: 200	I'm not flaming you John. I just want you to ride safe and be safe. In 50 plus years of riding and racing. I have ridden many different bikes and combinations. I have learned a few things and I have burred a few ridding buddies. Good luck. Willie Last edited by WillieWherry; 02-28-2008 at 10:38 AM.

02-25-2008, 11:01 AM	#21 (permalink)
demingrickjames Ditch Magnet Join Date: Feb 2008 Bike: 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner Location: Deming, NM Posts: 167	You must spin the rear alot. I do it occasionally when I launch it hard off the line,(mostly when blowing the doors off Harleys), But I don't ride like that all the time. What's your source for new rubber? Do you use the oem tire or something different?

02-25-2008, 12:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
WillieWherry Clunked into first gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: 06 Roadliner Location: South East Michigan Posts: 200	Air pressure, air pressure, air pressure. Is the most important thing to watch on your machine. Low pressure will cup and destroy your tires. Don't ask me how I know. Your bikes engine is moved forward so the weight is balanced on the tires. So low pressure in ether tire or both will throw the handling way off and your bike will shake and shimmy big time. Willie

02-27-2008, 07:50 AM	#24 (permalink)
WillieWherry Clunked into first gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: 06 Roadliner Location: South East Michigan Posts: 200	I sure would not want to put your bike into a turn at any high speed. A square top car tire will never have the cornering aspects or the grip of a bike tire. I think you have a bike looking for a wreck to happen. It must handle real squirrely in any type highway turns. Car tires are not made to roll up on there sides like a bike tire. I think your asking for trouble. Willie

02-28-2008, 06:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
Jammin'John Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Honda Valkyrie Location: http://www.tughilltomorrowlandtrust.org/region.htm Posts: 332	Thanks Thanks for your concern. I'm no spring chicken myself. I've been in many accidents. I've had bad times. If I could get 30,000 miles out of a $150 bike tire I'd have one on her. It's even more than the money though. In a given season I would need 5 rear tires. Not only is that WAY to much money for me to come up with but having to change maybe 3 or 4 tires during the busy season is just too much BS. It's a PITA to try & get service when the shops are real busy. I absolutely love to ride,been doin' it all my life and honestly,I have no problem with the car tire. To each his own. Ride safe and often. JJ __________________ I don't care what you ride as long as you RIDE ! JJ

02-29-2008, 12:53 PM	#31 (permalink)
Stratoliner Blue Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 Stratoliner Location: Southern California Posts: 20	JJ, you will never convince some people that a car tire isn't safe, they just don't get the "darkside" thing. I am very interested in one when the time comes. Do you have nay pictures of that tire on your bike?

02-29-2008, 03:36 PM	#32 (permalink)
Jammin'John Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Honda Valkyrie Location: http://www.tughilltomorrowlandtrust.org/region.htm Posts: 332	Darkside Here you go ! JJ Attached Thumbnails __________________ I don't care what you ride as long as you RIDE ! JJ

03-01-2008, 12:56 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jammin'John Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Honda Valkyrie Location: http://www.tughilltomorrowlandtrust.org/region.htm Posts: 332	Darkside http://forums.delphiforums.com/starr...es?msg=6779.55 The Dark Side JJ __________________ I don't care what you ride as long as you RIDE ! JJ

03-03-2008, 11:31 AM	#34 (permalink)
demingrickjames Ditch Magnet Join Date: Feb 2008 Bike: 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner Location: Deming, NM Posts: 167	The car tire looks pretty cool. Something to consider anyway. I'll probably stick with the oe tires. I found the front for $110, but the cheapest I can find the rear for is about $330. It seems the 190/60 R17 is made specifically for the Liner. I probably wont need a new rear for a couple months anyway so I'll keep looking. I read "The Dark Side", and I'm now seriously considering a car tire for the rear of my Liner. What size & brand have you been running, Jammin? __________________ Last edited by demingrickjames; 03-03-2008 at 11:56 AM. Reason: Read "The Dark Side"

03-03-2008, 11:44 AM	#35 (permalink)
Jammin'John Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Honda Valkyrie Location: http://www.tughilltomorrowlandtrust.org/region.htm Posts: 332	Elite III The Dunlop Elite III for 1800 Gold Wing is THE BEST front tire for the liner ! $330 for a rear tire,what are you thinkin' ? Some folks use the one for a newer harley,a lot cheaper than $330. My car tire was $137 delivered,80,000 mile tire. Buy what makes you happy ! JJ __________________ I don't care what you ride as long as you RIDE ! JJ

03-03-2008, 12:02 PM	#36 (permalink)
demingrickjames Ditch Magnet Join Date: Feb 2008 Bike: 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner Location: Deming, NM Posts: 167	I hear you. What tire do you have on the rear? __________________

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