What was the winningest drag motor in a suzuki- and what bike did it come in original - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

CruisingRam · 08-19-2005, 06:07 PM

Was it an early GS? I know suzuki absolutely dominated drag racing until they changed the rules to make harley competitive (not starting a harley debate here BTW LOL) - but my next bike will be a bike with that motor in it LOL

Gixxxer750 · 08-19-2005, 11:22 PM

no clue

MagnumForce · 08-20-2005, 06:08 AM

The engine on Suzuki's winning formula is based on the mid-80's GS1150. Antron Brown's US Army Pro Stock racer uses this engine.

Dave2122 · 08-20-2005, 08:54 AM

Correct

GS 1150 it is.

Same deal in Top Fuel Dragsters the Kieth Black Hemi that they all use is based on the Mopar 426 Hemi

CruisingRam · 08-20-2005, 10:00 AM

Looking at www.dragbike.com it appears as though the GS 1100 E is the most popular donor bike- and mods came later. Some controversy as to 8v vs 16v.

Actually- the kieth black hemi is truly based on the 426 hemi- to the point it can be used as a replacement block for a stock block that is broken- something that the new harley race motor can't do- it has no relations whatsoever with any stock HD motor- the Vand H motor is a complete one off motor.

My question is because I want a GS at some point- I have my feelers out here locally all the time in case I stumble across one- funny, because I am not finding one, but I find rarer bikes all the time LOL- and, in my search for a GS 1100 E, other suzuk bikes keep popping up for great prices, sometimes I will buy one and flip it- but mostly, I pass them on to my buddies- until I find something I am really looking for.

I also found out that GS 1100 Es are very, very heavy! 560lbs dry wieght! So if I get one, lightening it up will be a priority LOL

**87gsxrnut** · 08-23-2005, 11:42 AM

Had a friend that dragraced one in the 80's/90's. Blew the doors off everyone. Freaking FAAAAAAST bike.

- Nut

CruisingRam · 08-23-2005, 12:45 PM

Too bad they are so wieght breaked and cc limited to death so HD can compete right now- but they brought this on themselves- had they not whined so much in the late 80 and early 90s about the Kawi's and Honda's and Yamaha's , NHRA and other sanctioning bodies wouldn't have felt it neccesary to slow down the 'zuks in order to save the class.

**87gsxrnut** · 08-23-2005, 01:15 PM

Yeah, BS to the max. I don't see many Harley's winning in Roadracing . . .

- Nut

MagnumForce · 08-23-2005, 01:18 PM

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what exactly was Suzuki's whine against the other members of the big 4? I find it kind of ironic that this little squabble turned out to benefit Harley Davidson.

finch20th · 08-23-2005, 02:14 PM

well acctually the suzuki's will be able to lighten the bike up in like a week or so i think it was like 14 or 16 lbs... so that they can make up for the hd having more hp!!!!

this is from www.nhra.com

"Pro Stock Bike

Page 160 (8/05)

Designation: Replace second sentence with, "Minimum weight at conclusion of run: Harley-Davidson or NHRA-accepted American push rod V-twin up to 160 cid, 615 pounds, including rider; Harley-Davidson or NHRA-accepted American push rod V-twin 161 to 200 cid, 600 pounds, including rider; Hondas and Kawasakis, 575 pounds, including rider; Suzukis, 590 pounds, including rider; all other, 600 pounds, including rider."

08-19-2005, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
CruisingRam Fender Buffer Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: Several Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 411	What was the winningest drag motor in a suzuki- and what bike did it come in original Was it an early GS? I know suzuki absolutely dominated drag racing until they changed the rules to make harley competitive (not starting a harley debate here BTW LOL) - but my next bike will be a bike with that motor in it LOL

08-19-2005, 11:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gixxxer750 Clunked into first gear Joined: May 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki GSX-R750 Location: Red Deer, AB Posts: 233	no clue __________________ "Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebars to the saddle." Rockin' a hot 2005 GSX-R750 with the new colour scheme, only one in Red Deer.

08-20-2005, 06:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
MagnumForce Throttle Jockey Joined: May 2005 Bike: 05 M50, 06 CBR600F4i Location: Sitting on the can... duh! Posts: 3,160	The engine on Suzuki's winning formula is based on the mid-80's GS1150. Antron Brown's US Army Pro Stock racer uses this engine. __________________ "I love the smell of toner in the morning… it's the smell of victory!" MAJ M, Staff Officer

08-23-2005, 11:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
87gsxrnut Ho Dog Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 867-5309 Location: Terror Lake Posts: 4,218	Had a friend that dragraced one in the 80's/90's. Blew the doors off everyone. Freaking FAAAAAAST bike. - Nut __________________ Person or person's unknown.

08-23-2005, 01:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
87gsxrnut Ho Dog Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 867-5309 Location: Terror Lake Posts: 4,218	Yeah, BS to the max. I don't see many Harley's winning in Roadracing . . . - Nut __________________ Person or person's unknown.

08-20-2005, 08:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dave2122 Sprocket Pilot Joined: Sep 2004 Bike: Which one of the 9? Location: USA Posts: 887	Correct GS 1150 it is. Same deal in Top Fuel Dragsters the Kieth Black Hemi that they all use is based on the Mopar 426 Hemi

08-20-2005, 10:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
CruisingRam Fender Buffer Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: Several Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 411	Looking at www.dragbike.com it appears as though the GS 1100 E is the most popular donor bike- and mods came later. Some controversy as to 8v vs 16v. Actually- the kieth black hemi is truly based on the 426 hemi- to the point it can be used as a replacement block for a stock block that is broken- something that the new harley race motor can't do- it has no relations whatsoever with any stock HD motor- the Vand H motor is a complete one off motor. My question is because I want a GS at some point- I have my feelers out here locally all the time in case I stumble across one- funny, because I am not finding one, but I find rarer bikes all the time LOL- and, in my search for a GS 1100 E, other suzuk bikes keep popping up for great prices, sometimes I will buy one and flip it- but mostly, I pass them on to my buddies- until I find something I am really looking for. I also found out that GS 1100 Es are very, very heavy! 560lbs dry wieght! So if I get one, lightening it up will be a priority LOL

08-23-2005, 12:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
CruisingRam Fender Buffer Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: Several Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 411	Too bad they are so wieght breaked and cc limited to death so HD can compete right now- but they brought this on themselves- had they not whined so much in the late 80 and early 90s about the Kawi's and Honda's and Yamaha's , NHRA and other sanctioning bodies wouldn't have felt it neccesary to slow down the 'zuks in order to save the class.

08-23-2005, 01:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
MagnumForce Throttle Jockey Joined: May 2005 Bike: 05 M50, 06 CBR600F4i Location: Sitting on the can... duh! Posts: 3,160	I hope you don't mind me asking, but what exactly was Suzuki's whine against the other members of the big 4? I find it kind of ironic that this little squabble turned out to benefit Harley Davidson. __________________ "I love the smell of toner in the morning… it's the smell of victory!" MAJ M, Staff Officer

08-23-2005, 02:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
finch20th Baiting for a Banning!!!!!! Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2005 Gsxr 600 20th Anniversary Edition Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 1,107	well acctually the suzuki's will be able to lighten the bike up in like a week or so i think it was like 14 or 16 lbs... so that they can make up for the hd having more hp!!!! this is from www.nhra.com "Pro Stock Bike Page 160 (8/05) Designation: Replace second sentence with, "Minimum weight at conclusion of run: Harley-Davidson or NHRA-accepted American push rod V-twin up to 160 cid, 615 pounds, including rider; Harley-Davidson or NHRA-accepted American push rod V-twin 161 to 200 cid, 600 pounds, including rider; Hondas and Kawasakis, 575 pounds, including rider; Suzukis, 590 pounds, including rider; all other, 600 pounds, including rider." __________________ Wisconsin Winters Suck! Miles to date on the 600: 2263.2 #4803!!! The Proud New Owner Of A 2005 Suzuki Gsx-R 600 20th Anniversary Edition!!!

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