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womper · 04-25-2009, 06:04 AM

on the bike or not... clutch in, and front brake on...

then i release the brake... worst case is the brake stalls the motor... and i only start the bike when on the left side of it

Thundurburd · 04-25-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by womper

on the bike or not... clutch in, and front brake on...

then i release the brake... worst case is the brake stalls the motor... and i only start the bike when on the left side of it

It's always good IMO if possible to be two steps away from disaster in general, the first step here being the kickstand kill switch. Sitting on the bike is an option but the "clutch in, and front brake on..." while standing along side the bike is good enough for me.

It's good advice to be careful though.

phoenixfire · 05-23-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by knipdm01

Thats the thing the green light was lit. But for some reason it was still in between gears and when I slowly released the clutch it dropped into 1st. Maybe it was a fluke and will never happen again, but I'm not chancing it.

How were you able to start the bike if it was in 1st? And why was your hand on the clutch? *confused*

I have a set routine that I follow every time.

Start bike,
Put in ear plugs
Put on helmet
Put on gloves
Kickstand
Switch fuel to on
Rock and Ride!

frostbitevinnie · 05-23-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenixfire

How were you able to start the bike if it was in 1st? And why was your hand on the clutch? *confused*

I have a set routine that I follow every time.

Start bike,
Put in ear plugs
Put on helmet
Put on gloves
Kickstand
Switch fuel to on
Rock and Ride!

I can start my bike in 1st. As long as the kick stand is up, clutch in she will go.

Rickster · 05-23-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenixfire

How were you able to start the bike if it was in 1st? And why was your hand on the clutch? *confused* As Vinnie said, put the sidestand up, or disconect the sidestand switch and it will start in any gear as long as you have the clutch pulled in, and of course pulling the clutch in is why his hand was on the clutch.

I have a set routine that I follow every time.

Start bike,
Put in ear plugs
Put on helmet
Put on gloves
Kickstand
Switch fuel to on
Rock and Ride!

It's nice to have a routine that works for you (so far) but keep in mind that everyone is different, and what works for you might not work for everyone.

frostbitevinnie · 05-23-2009, 02:50 PM

Regardless of kickstand up or down my bike will ONLY start with the clutch in.

Rickster · 05-23-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frostbitevinnie

Regardless of kickstand up or down my bike will ONLY start with the clutch in.

We can fix that with a pair of wire cutters.

womper · 05-23-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenixfire

How were you able to start the bike if it was in 1st? And why was your hand on the clutch? *confused*

I have a set routine that I follow every time.

Start bike,
Put in ear plugs
Put on helmet
Put on gloves
Kickstand
Switch fuel to on
Rock and Ride!

kinda goes against the msf, doesn't it?

never get on the bike before suiting up.
once on the bike, THEN you start it.

frostbitevinnie · 05-23-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenixfire

How were you able to start the bike if it was in 1st? And why was your hand on the clutch? *confused*

I have a set routine that I follow every time.

Start bike,
Put in ear plugs
Put on helmet
Put on gloves
Kickstand
Switch fuel to on
Rock and Ride!

Pffffftttt. routines are for sissys. Random action keeps the adventure alive.

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Originally Posted by Rickster

We can fix that with a pair of wire cutters.

Yeh, who needs the frickin' safety measures anyway. You gonna ride up here to do the cutting or shall I come to you??

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Originally Posted by womper

kinda goes against the msf, doesn't it?

never get on the bike before suiting up.
once on the bike, THEN you start it.

MSF? Pfffftttt what a waste of B.S. time.

I rarely start the bike while mounted. Ohhhhh, mounting make me think dirty thoughts.

Davecm203 · 05-23-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickster

We can fix that with a pair of wire cutters.

The clutch in safety switch can be bypassed. A lot of Gixxer owners always want to bypass it for some reason. (And they claim it is better for the track.) But, on the newer ones, it will cause a fault on the bike and it will go into a "safe" mode and decrease power. The computer gets confused as it thinks that the clutch is in all the time. I really fail to understand the big deal as to why people would want to disengage the safety in the first place. (I know you were kidding. I am bored and just wanted to rant about something pointless.)

Davecm203 · 05-23-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by frostbitevinnie

Pffffftttt. routines are for sissys. Random action keeps the adventure alive.

For those of us in the first stages of what must be Alzheimer's, we need routine. The other day, I changed my usual routine and as I got about a mile down the road I felt something smacking me on the shoulder. I then realized I did not fasten my chin strap on my helmet.

Uncle B · 05-23-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Davecm203

The clutch in safety switch can be bypassed. A lot of Gixxer owners always want to bypass it for some reason. (And they claim it is better for the track.) But, on the newer ones, it will cause a fault on the bike and it will go into a "safe" mode and decrease power. The computer gets confused as it thinks that the clutch is in all the time. I really fail to understand the big deal as to why people would want to disengage the safety in the first place. (I know you were kidding. I am bored and just wanted to rant about something pointless.)

I can't answer that without getting political!!!

What some people consider safety others consider a nuisance!!!

Davecm203 · 05-23-2009, 09:08 PM

I just don't really find it a nuisance personally. It is just not that big a deal to me. I geuss it is because I just do not think of it anymore. The sad part of this is that I cannot remember what my first bike was that required the clutch in to start.

Uncle B · 05-23-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Davecm203

I cannot remember what my first bike was that required the clutch in to start.

Mine was a 1982 Suzuki GS1100GK.

My 1970 Yamaha 125cc was a kick start, my 1978 Suzuki 250cc was also a kick start both of them we would kickstart them drop into gear and ride off the kickstand.

Rickster · 05-23-2009, 10:57 PM

A lot of the dual sport riders disconnect the clutch & side stand safeties too, it's pretty easy to get into situations off road where the safeties are a pain in the rear & can turn a minor tip over into a real problem.

Harley didn't start putting clutch & side stand safeties on there bikes till the 07 models.

womper · 05-24-2009, 07:58 AM

and also for dual-sport since they're more likely to snap the clutch lever/cable... heh...

05-23-2009, 02:50 PM	#26 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie Forensic Bug Splatter Analyst Join Date: Jul 2007 Bike: '07 C90T, '76 MT250, smashed up '91 GSX1100g Location: St. Cloud, MN 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 4,153	Regardless of kickstand up or down my bike will ONLY start with the clutch in. __________________ Sam 3/7/09 Rest in peace my good friend.

05-23-2009, 09:08 PM	#33 (permalink)
Davecm203 M-J Member of the Month!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Bike: 2006 GSXR750 Location: Central North Carolina Posts: 2,828	I just don't really find it a nuisance personally. It is just not that big a deal to me. I geuss it is because I just do not think of it anymore. The sad part of this is that I cannot remember what my first bike was that required the clutch in to start. __________________

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Rickster Forensic Bug Splatter Analyst Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: St Paul Mn Posts: 4,210	A lot of the dual sport riders disconnect the clutch & side stand safeties too, it's pretty easy to get into situations off road where the safeties are a pain in the rear & can turn a minor tip over into a real problem. Harley didn't start putting clutch & side stand safeties on there bikes till the 07 models. __________________ 2009 BMW, R 1200 GS 2008 DR 650 2006 HD Road King 2008 1250 Bandit ABS 2003 KTM 525 EX/C 2005 Santa Cruz Heckler

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