wheelies & stoppies!!!!

[C@rB0n]

hi, i'm from singapore and i'm a newbie in this forum and i'm riding a GSX 750-02 model I've seen riders doing wheelies and stoppies like its very simple. I can't seem to get the right techniques, my bike just won't get up Anyone have any advice on how to practice/execute this manuever??? i'm really interested in learning.

[RookWV]

Why not just ride your motorcycle into a wall while you're not wearing any gear?

This isn't the best place to be asking about stunting....unless you PM soad

[GSX1100FL]

Lots of practice, busted bike parts, busted body parts & stupidity.

If you are really interested in stunting you should use a older bike because the parts are cheaper, take your time, do not push yourself, be prepared to end up in a hospital & you will need two big brass balls the size of Buicks.

[Madura]

As long as you are stunting in a parking lot on your own bike, I don't have any problem with it. I STRONGLY encourage you to wear gear.

Most any sports bike will work for an endo, since it's simply learning the balance point for overbreaking. A wheelie requires enough torque to get the front off the ground. So you may not have enough speed or good enough brakes for the stoppies.

If you don't have enough speed, then I'm glad. You are still playing within your limits. If your brakes suck, then get better equipment; you're going to kill yourself and maybe someone else.

At any rate, lower your tire pressure to about 20 psi, get VERY good gear and a ratty bike, find an empty, VERY big parking lot and knock yourself out.

Not literally.

[MattO]

And take the insurance off of your bike! I don't want to be paying higher premiums for your stupidity when you trash your new bike! Appreciate what you have and ride your bike like it was designed, with both wheels on the ground. Do everyone a favor and sell that bike to someone that will actually take care of it (because you obviously don't) and buy some ratty old bike to stunt with.

[Ride-or-die]

ok this wasnt the best place to ask this question, the people in this forum tend to be more interested in safety than fun. of course you wil be able to master it on your bike yourll just have to keep progressing, and adding more throttle/speed/breaking till you figure out what it will take and learn your limits, i recommend very large mushrooms to protect the bike incase you drop it and consider getting a wheelie bar

[Nexus242]

Originally Posted by C@rB0n

hi, i'm from singapore and i'm a newbie in this forum and i'm riding a GSX 750-02 model I've seen riders doing wheelies and stoppies like its very simple. I can't seem to get the right techniques, my bike just won't get up Anyone have any advice on how to practice/execute this manuever??? i'm really interested in learning.

Easy find the local stunt riders in your town, befriend them, ask them for help and pointer and learn from them. Oh yeah get a second %%%% bike and strip it of lights and other crap thats gonna get totalled anyway.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Ride-or-die

the people in this forum tend to be more interested in safety than fun.

Ohhh, that's a cheap shot, and I'll thank you to speak for yourself. Fun is in the eye of the throttle-holder, and we have lots of it. It's stunting's cost to others that we're against. Insurance, innocent bystander injury or death, damage to the reputation of motorcyclists....

C@rbon, there are plenty of stunting sites around. Help yourself.

you seriously came to the way wrong place. i wonder if uncle bob banned him yet? go to www.streetfighterz.com and join thier forum.

[Ride-or-die]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Ohhh, that's a cheap shot, and I'll thank you to speak for yourself. Fun is in the eye of the throttle-holder, and we have lots of it. It's stunting's cost to others that we're against. Insurance, innocent bystander injury or death, damage to the reputation of motorcyclists....

C@rbon, there are plenty of stunting sites around. Help yourself.

no i totally agree!!!! i didnt mean it as a cheap shot just stating the way i see it, but then this forum appears to be fainly full of custom riders or cruisers, well at least they the regular posters. sorry if i offended you

[RookWV]

I call carving (or at least trying) the perfect line through a set of twisties far, far, FAR more fun than a wheelie or stoppie....any ditz that can turn a throttle or squeeze a lever can wheelie or stoppie.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by RookWV

I call carving (or at least trying) the perfect line through a set of twisties far, far, FAR more fun than a wheelie or stoppie....any ditz that can turn a throttle or squeeze a lever can wheelie or stoppie.

R-or-D, no offense taken. I just wouldn't want to be portrayed as a granny rider.

Originally Posted by RookWV

I call carving (or at least trying) the perfect line through a set of twisties far, far, FAR more fun than a wheelie or stoppie....any ditz that can turn a throttle or squeeze a lever can wheelie or stoppie.

what about highchair wheelies? circle wheelies? 180 stoppies? really really long stoppies? there are so many variations on those.

[Ride-or-die]

yeah i must admit the idea of one handed stoppies and stank standing does appeal to me, i love to watch "STREET BIKERS" and "THE ADRENALINE CREW" as its impressive to watch. its like stunt BMX, i used to ride my BMX all the time as a little kid and spend hours learning new tricks, if i fell off it hurt and i'd damage my bike so why should it be considered any different on a motorbike???? cos if u fell off learning tricks do u think anyone would actually claim off insurance and push up their premium?

[RookWV]

Originally Posted by soad

what about highchair wheelies? circle wheelies? 180 stoppies? really really long stoppies? there are so many variations on those.

What about them? I have no use for them and don't find them "fun". I might watch purely for the chance of seeing someone eat it....

Like I said, a perfectly carved corner is pure bliss to me....of course I haven't hit that perfect moment yet but I'm happy to keep trying.

I don't want to go back into the whole stunting and skill issue that was bashed about a few months ago.

There are those who believe in motorcycling the way it was meant and designed and then there are those who like to see burnt up tires, mashed fairings, busted plastics and road rashed riders.

It's just a different mentality.

you act like turning a corner is hyper fun. sure, its pretty cool to see someone go really fast in a corner with a knee dragging, but it gets boring after a while. with stunting, only certain tricks get boring after doing/seeing them for a long time, then people put thier own touches to spice them up, then its interesting to see. in my mind, it takes a whole lot more skill to learn how to keep your balance while doing a highchair circle wheelie than it is to go fast in a curve. but hey, thats just me.

[87gsxrnut]

It takes good skills to do both well. It takes a lot more balls to ride a bike to the edge of traction than stunting IMO.

Also, watching and performing/racing are two different animals. There is no way in hell that I can even begin to explain what goes on when you are railing through a high-speed corner at 120+ mph. It doesn't translate to TV whatsoever, believe me.

- Nut

i agree. on my bicycle i scrape my pedal enexpectadly sometimes and it hits HARD and it scares me quite a bit.(you should see my pedal ends) my pedals are about 4 inches above the ground, so im not leaning very far and it feels way farther than i actually am and it scares me. as soon as i get my gs500E(in a year) i will be able to say i know through experience which one is my favorite and name reasons. as of right now, i like to watch stunting more than watch...say...motogp.

[tlwisner]

Originally Posted by RookWV

There are those who believe in motorcycling the way it was meant and designed and then there are those who like to see burnt up tires, mashed fairings, busted plastics and road rashed riders.

It's just a different mentality.

I have seen a lot more mashed plastic and injured riders riding their sportbikes carving corners that I have seen stunters wrecked.

To each his own, I enjoy watching stunters, and some of the stunts are very impressive. Sitting on the handlebars of a big sportbike and pulling a wheelie is pretty cool to see.

The mentality I object to is divisivness, and people who think they are "real" riders while people who ride in other ways are something less.

[RookWV]

Originally Posted by soad

you act like turning a corner is hyper fun.

It is if you do it right.