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Old 06-11-2008, 02:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Actually, I've pissed off the wrong people, so my wife starts it for me now. Not sure what her procedure is.
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I start mine on the kickstand.
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I will start it both ways. Just depends on my mood and what else I am doing. Does it really matter?
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:53 PM   #24 (permalink)
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On the side stand, usually with me standing next to it, bout the only time I get on first, is if like Dr Bob, I have a kicker.

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Old 06-12-2008, 07:36 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say that "all the oil has moved to the left side". In reality, it's only slightly lower on the right, and I'm quite sure the engineers accounted for that.
I looked at the ZZR last nite, and since the clutch housing is towards the top of the motor, and protrudes outward beyond the case all of the oil drains out of it. Even when it's level, only a fraction of the clutch is actually in oil. The full mark on the sight glass is 1/2 inch above the very bottom of the clutch case. If I just lean it slightly, the oil level drops below the clutch. On a cruiser it probably wouldn't do this, depending on where the clutch is located in regards to the cases.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
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You'd have to top off the crankcase to keep the entire clutch surface wetted, so it likely doesn't matter too much.

I wonder where the pick-up tube for the oil pump is located? Probably in such a position that a person can start the bike on the sidestand, I would assume. Maybe not.
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paranoia anyone?
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Your Gixxer should be the same as mine, clutch housing high on the motor riding in very little oil?
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Dip a screw driver, or any price of smooth metal in a container of motor oil, than leave it hang for a week, you will find that even though all the excess oil has dripped off, there is still a layer of oil coating the surface, and it will stay that way for a very long time, I don't think you have any thing to worry about leaving your bike sit overnight, for 3 months, ya, maybe than, but not if it only sat for a week or less, and even after 3 months, I'd be more concerned about the protection on my high friction metal parts (like the piston) than I would the clutch.

What you are doing doesn't hurt anything for sure, so go ahead and do it your way, it is your bike after all.

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Old 06-12-2008, 05:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I start mine on the side stand.
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The MSF way is FINE-C.....Fuel turn on, Ignition turn on, Neutral, Engine cut off switch, Clutch/choke. That's the safe way to do it so you'll need to be sitting on the bike!

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Key on, starter button in, bump the clutch lever, zip up jacket, helmet and gloves on, by then the idle is down to normal then ride.
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Get on bike, fuel on, key on, choke on, grab handle, and pull. It sometimes takes a few pulls to get it to start, so you want to leave the it on the side stand in case you lose your balance.
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I *never* start the bike on the kickstand. When I start the bike, I'm sitting on it, one hand holding the clutch, and the other pushing the starter button. When it's parked, regardless if I put it on the kickstand or on the center stand, it's in 1st gear. I couldn't start it with the kickstand down because because the sensor won't let me. And I need to stand it up to kick it into neutral, so it's off the stand anyway.
i do the same for the same reasons
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I set the bike on the side stand, roll the motor over slowly with the kicker to find top dead center, turn the key on and kick it over. Two kicks cold, one hot.

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I start the old monster pretty much the same way every morning.

Take it off the side stand, flop out the kick start lever, put the choke on full, and kick once.

Saw a guy try to do the same on his Harley, and it was a lot of work.
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I stand it upright...then I back it out of the garage...put the kickstand down...and start it up. Works great, and all that sloshing around on the way out of the garage probably helps.
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I start the old monster pretty much the same way every morning.

Take it off the side stand, flop out the kick start lever, put the choke on full, and kick once.

Saw a guy try to do the same on his Harley, and it was a lot of work.

there's something about a kick start that i always found 'romantic' and old school... i wish i had one on my bike
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:43 PM   #40 (permalink)
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when will this become an option for the modern rider?

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gentlemen, it'd been done here for far too long.

can't kick start your scooter? solly, no drivee.

for an 850 it kicks over remarkably smoothly, little more effort than an 8 hp mower. Maybe less.
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