A father's devotion.

[Madura]

This weekend I was talking to my brother about motorcycle safety and he told me a rather incredible and touching story about a friend of his.

It seems this fellow was riding through Nevada, somewhere out in the desert, with his young son on the back of his bike. He came upon a crossroad, I suppose. At any rate, a car turned left in front of him, as is so often the case in highway accidents. The bike and motorcycle impacted and the riders were thrown.

The accident report noted that all impact by the driver was sustained on the face of his helmet and his chest. The impact crushed his ribs and he died immediately, though his son lived. There were no defense wounds on his arms, and no trauma to his wrists, elbow or shoulders as is the case when one's arms are rigid on the handlebars and the front wheel strikes an object. It appears he made no effort to protect himself when he landed.

This is because when he hit the ground he was clutching his son to his back with both arms.

[SuzukiGirl1]

Wow...that's a tear jerker!!!

[007]

I don't really buy that story, but nevertheless it is friggin sad!

[Madura]

Well, I wasn't really selling anything since I didn't ask for any money. However, he was a friend of my brother. But your dissent is duly noted.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by 007

I don't really buy that story, but nevertheless it is friggin sad!

I agree. It's a stretch in the world of forensics, but it is nice to think about.

That's what I'd do.

[axel_2078]

Yeah, that story seems kind of sketchy.

[Madura]

Ok ******, I'll post his full name tomorrow. He was a close friend to my brother and they went to some security school together. I know his first name is Rick and a monumnet in his honor was erected at SAS Institute where he was a security director or something.


Edit by Louis

[Clint]

Wow. Nice name calling.

No one is saying anything bad about this guy, just that it's quite a guess at what happened, given that no one actually saw it happen.

Cool your jets, tough guy.

[Louis]

Madura, no need for the name calling. I'm getting tired of this.

[Madura]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Cool your jets, tough guy.

I thought you weren't reading my posts anymore because I am insensitive. Maybe that was someone else.

And all I did was relate a story. Notice that I mentioned that his son lived, so there's an eye witness who was rather close to the scene and accident investigation can tell many things very accurately. Moreover, I know the difference in someone who is interested in learning more and someone who is insinuating a fabrication.

[Braada]

Wow, this thread seems to be going the wrong direction!


Madura, sad, amazing story, and totally believable in my eyes. I have three sons so I can tell you without a doubt that if they were on the bike with me and there is anything I could do to protect them in a crash, I would do it as reaction and without a second thought for myself.

Have none of you ever been in a car and had to slam on the brakes and instead of keeping both hands on the wheel you instinctively reach one hand over to hold the passenger back...even though the seatbelt is going to anyway?

I'm not an admin here anymore, I gave up those duties a long time ago but let's take a minute to look at the full story and think about what you would be willing to do to protect your kids before we go hollering BS and calling names huh?

[axel_2078]

What you will do to protect your kids and what you hear are two different things. If you heard a man flipped over an overturned semi truck to save his trapped son underneath, would you believe that? Would you singlehandedly do the same thing? Of course any parent would do anything they could to protect their kids, but there are some pretty far fetched stories out there. I'm not saying Madura is a liar, don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I think that's what the others were trying to express too. And for the record, none of US were calling names.

[Braada]

Originally Posted by axel_2078

What you will do to protect your kids and what you hear are two different things. If you heard a man flipped over an overturned semi truck to save his trapped son underneath, would you believe that? Would you single handedly do the same thing? Of course any parent would do anything they could to protect their kids, but there are some pretty far fetched stories out there. I'm not saying Madura is a liar, don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I think that's what the others were trying to express too. And for the record, none of US were calling names.

Well, I don't know that I would believe someone lifted a semi to save someone but there have been several doccumented cases of people lifting cars tto free a loved one. It's done by an overwhelming rush of adrenelen (sp).

If you've ever been down before then you know that for most people everything moves in slow motion, kind of sureal. I can easily see a child clinging to Dads back anyway at the time of impact , clutching tighter. At the same time Dad realizing that there is no riding out of the situation and instinctily reaching behind him to protect his son by grabbing him any way he can (arms behind back) to hold him as tight as he can and protect with his very body. The handle bars, windscreen and the car shatter the Fathers frontside because his defense has gone to protect the child who basically rides Dad like a sled over the top and onto the ground, getting up shaken but unhurt.
As a father it is a strange thing. I know I would cut off my arm without thought if it meant my child would live, yet I would not cut off that arm to save my own life.

For the name calling...sorry, I thought I saw a few "***'s" up there.

[themeatmanlandry]

Hard to believe? Yes.

Possible? Of course.

Worth getting bent out of shape about? Probably not.

Madura, you don't have to post the guy's name and all. Many times I've told an unbelievable story (to folks' faces) and been re-buffed. Such is life. FWIW, I believe that it is definitely possible.

If it's true (probably is), his single last action as a human being was a selfless one that saved another human's life.

I should be so lucky as to get out on such a fine note.

Y'all chill, now. We're all friends here.

[SuzukiGirl1]

Ditto to Meat...

Let's just all look at this story as exactly what the thread is called...a Father's Devotion...and leave it at that

[Trapper]

Madura's posts get scrutinized latley I find. If you don't believe them don't reply. It's a waste of space. I would lift a Semi truck off my kid and stranger things have happened.

[Madura]

Thanks. I know I'm a lighting rod.

The guy was very highly trained in the field of security. He knew exactly what to do in the situation as a last resort. I think most parents would do the same thing without thinking if they could, it's just that most people couldn't react as quickly or with as much skill. His reaction time was so short because of his training and he was able to do something a lot of people couldn't.

I haven't talked to my brother today to get any more info, and I don't mind posting it if anyone has an interest. I just have to find it. I want to find out if I can get police reports from Lexis.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Madura

[I thought you weren't reading my posts anymore because I am insensitive.

Well, I was giving you a second chance, but now you're also abusive. How dare we be skeptical of something we read on the internet! Everything on there is a proven fact, of course.

Once again, no one is calling you a liar, and no one is badmouthing the guy. We just like to consider all possibilities. That's our right. In fact, it's generally appreciated in a public forum.

[stevie c]

Some things are best left unsaid.If you doubt this thread you don't have to give it negative comments,move on to the next htread.

You never know who is reading it who this might be personal to,is it worth hurting peoples feelings just so you can have your say?

[GIXXER-Mike]

Ruff Room I see!