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Smurf · 03-31-2008, 03:47 AM

Let me get this straight..............

This thread deals with "Law" and "Religion" as far as the Religion is concerned it's not motorcycle related unless you pray to the Motorcycle God. The law part, now this has to do with the politicians, and anytime politicians get involved it makes it a "Political Thread".

Thats a "NO NO" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

**inspiron** · 03-31-2008, 04:33 AM

I've just started reading the book "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. In the first chapter, he discussed exactly this issue - that when religion is involved, it usually has the trump card.

If you say, "I refuse to wear a helmet because it gives me a headache", you'll lose your case. If you say, "I refuse to wear a helmet for religious reasons", most judges will accept the argument, since to question someone's religious beliefs is simply not socially acceptable.

tricker · 03-31-2008, 06:02 AM

yeesh... and sgt mike didn't even start this one

**drgibson** · 03-31-2008, 06:59 AM

23 posts and on one has brought up a critical point.

This turban does it have a chin strap, will it stay on his head at speed, can it unravel?

If it comes off or unravels the it becomes a hazard not only to the rider but to others as well.

themeatmanlandry · 03-31-2008, 07:10 AM

You guys can argue all you want about the rights and wrongs of helmet laws . . . or the rights of a person to express religious views . . . or the rights ofthe state to force people to do things that "they" feel are correct . . . you're all missing the point.

What we have here is a blossoming opportunity to make some fast cash. I'm going into the R&D lab to develop the world's first and only SNELL-rated, DOT-approved, Turban Half-Face.

Y'all can sit and %%%%% all you want . . . I'm pulling a patent and making some money!!

[On a serious note] Who cares what this guy wants to put on his head when he rides? I certainly don't. IMO the gov't has NO BUSINESS telling any of us anything. They'll screw up a wet dream, yet people feel that they have the right to mandate what the masses should do to protect themselves? GMAFB. "Boohoo, we have to pay for the injuries." Again, who cares? It's dude's head. We're already paying for so many ridiculous things, will we really feel the impact of a few vegetables on our annual tax bill? No. May as well let them wear towels on their heads as they skid into comaland. At least there'll be one less idiot on the street for the ride home.

B-Rex · 03-31-2008, 07:16 AM

You guys got it all wrong. He wants to wear a TURBINE on his head!

Some guys will do anything for more speed.

Personally, I think there may be a noise issue with such a device.

B-Rex

amvince · 03-31-2008, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drgibson

23 posts and on one has brought up a critical point.

This turban does it have a chin strap, will it stay on his head at speed, can it unravel?

If it comes off or unravels the it becomes a hazard not only to the rider but to others as well.

I had the same idea about the Turbin unraveling.

Landry just filed the patent.

Sgt Mike · 03-31-2008, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricker

yeesh... and sgt mike didn't even start this one

I only start the ones that I care about.

I really don't care if that moron wants to turn his brain into jelly.

**drgibson** · 03-31-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt Mike

I only start the ones that I care about.

I really don't care if that moron wants to turn his brain into jelly.

JmalB · 04-01-2008, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

It would be motorcycle-related if it affected even one of us somehow. Does it?

You wanna take a religious belief poll?

Rickster · 04-01-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themeatmanlandry

you're all missing the point.

What we have here is a blossoming opportunity to make some fast cash. I'm going into the R&D lab to develop the world's first and only SNELL-rated, DOT-approved, Turban Half-Face.

Y'all can sit and %%%%% all you want . . . I'm pulling a patent and making some money!!

Where can I buy some stock in this new venture of yours.

On a similar note, a buddy of mine told me the other day that he's going to start a new "religion", he's planing on calling it "Smokers".

His idea is to claim that in the Smokers religion, you have to smoke in order to get to Heaven, than he is going to go on the Internet and ask all of the millions of smokers in world to each contribute $1 to his cause to fight against smoking bans. He figures to be an overnight millionaire, than dis ban the religion.

Now, as stupid as this sounds, it's something that could actually work, and to my way of thinking, it's just one of the many reasons why special interest groups should not get special privilege's.

themeatmanlandry · 04-02-2008, 07:10 AM

I've often wondered when the drug users will get smart and claim it's a religious thing. That would make drugs untaxable, and the drug laws could be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court on the basis of freedom of religion.

JmalB · 04-02-2008, 09:02 AM

Rastas do that don't they?

**Clint** · 04-02-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themeatmanlandry

I've often wondered when the drug users will get smart and claim it's a religious thing.

That's been tried many times. In some cases it works.

themeatmanlandry · 04-02-2008, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

That's been tried many times. In some cases it works.

[landry crosses his breast and takes a hit off the hookah] Seriously??

**intimid8er** · 04-02-2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbitevinnie

I don't live in a box.

<-----Set's shoebox filled with straw, and said box top in a vee around Vinnie. Gently, nudges towards him with shoe.

"C'mon Vinnie...you've been out long enough now...get back in your box."

"You might learn something."

B-Rex · 04-02-2008, 05:07 PM

Don't forget the ONE successful religious/drug organization: The American Indian Church

Legally enjoying the benefits of Peyote (mescaline) for over 100 yrs. Much to the continued chagrin of the US Drug Police.

B-Rex

pinky44 · 04-03-2008, 03:43 AM

Let the guy wear his turbin instead of a helmet while riding, BUT have a rule in place that if involved in a accident his fault or otherwise he would not be covered for any injuries to himself only covered for the other driver/rider`s injuries, on the premis that he has not taken sufficiant precautions to prevent head injuries.
As the law where he lives says you must ride with a helmet.
I personaly would want to protect my head,face with one in the event of a spill.
Well thats my rant for the day.

tricker · 04-03-2008, 06:32 AM

wait... is this the rant thread?
*looks back at the sign on the door.. turns around and leaves*

bigkat1100 · 04-04-2008, 12:42 AM

Years ago when I lived in England there was an Indian who rode a moped to work. He didnt obey the helmet law.After several fines he went to court to protest that it was his religion to wear a turban. Long story short, he won the case.Typical aint it foreigners can get away with anything if they plead ITS MY RELIGION.

03-31-2008, 03:47 AM	#21 (permalink)
Smurf Quiche' King Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: 2005 Red Flamed M-50 Location: McDonough Georgia Posts: 4,282	Let me get this straight.............. This thread deals with "Law" and "Religion" as far as the Religion is concerned it's not motorcycle related unless you pray to the Motorcycle God. The law part, now this has to do with the politicians, and anytime politicians get involved it makes it a "Political Thread". Thats a "NO NO" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL __________________ "I would rather be lucky than good!"

03-31-2008, 04:33 AM	#22 (permalink)
inspiron Muscle Biker Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Blue Suzuki GSX 1400 (2003) Location: Canton Basel-Land, Switzerland (47.4493, 7.76536) Posts: 11,941	I've just started reading the book "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. In the first chapter, he discussed exactly this issue - that when religion is involved, it usually has the trump card. If you say, "I refuse to wear a helmet because it gives me a headache", you'll lose your case. If you say, "I refuse to wear a helmet for religious reasons", most judges will accept the argument, since to question someone's religious beliefs is simply not socially acceptable. __________________ There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe blog: gsx1400

03-31-2008, 06:02 AM	#23 (permalink)
tricker Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Joined: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 5,221	yeesh... and sgt mike didn't even start this one __________________ If anyone needs me... just PM me

03-31-2008, 06:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
drgibson Antebellum Mod Joined: Jul 2005 Bike: 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 Location: Dallas, Texas Directly above the center of the earth. Posts: 10,650	23 posts and on one has brought up a critical point. This turban does it have a chin strap, will it stay on his head at speed, can it unravel? If it comes off or unravels the it becomes a hazard not only to the rider but to others as well. __________________ “Please Remember to Kazoo Responsibly.”

03-31-2008, 07:10 AM	#25 (permalink)
themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	You guys can argue all you want about the rights and wrongs of helmet laws . . . or the rights of a person to express religious views . . . or the rights ofthe state to force people to do things that "they" feel are correct . . . you're all missing the point. What we have here is a blossoming opportunity to make some fast cash. I'm going into the R&D lab to develop the world's first and only SNELL-rated, DOT-approved, Turban Half-Face. Y'all can sit and %%%%% all you want . . . I'm pulling a patent and making some money!! [On a serious note] Who cares what this guy wants to put on his head when he rides? I certainly don't. IMO the gov't has NO BUSINESS telling any of us anything. They'll screw up a wet dream, yet people feel that they have the right to mandate what the masses should do to protect themselves? GMAFB. "Boohoo, we have to pay for the injuries." Again, who cares? It's dude's head. We're already paying for so many ridiculous things, will we really feel the impact of a few vegetables on our annual tax bill? No. May as well let them wear towels on their heads as they skid into comaland. At least there'll be one less idiot on the street for the ride home. __________________ Go to hell

03-31-2008, 07:16 AM	#26 (permalink)
B-Rex Kickstand Operator Joined: Jan 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki B-King Location: Midwest Posts: 297	You guys got it all wrong. He wants to wear a TURBINE on his head! Some guys will do anything for more speed. Personally, I think there may be a noise issue with such a device. B-Rex

04-02-2008, 07:10 AM	#32 (permalink)
themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	I've often wondered when the drug users will get smart and claim it's a religious thing. That would make drugs untaxable, and the drug laws could be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court on the basis of freedom of religion. __________________ Go to hell

04-02-2008, 05:07 PM	#37 (permalink)
B-Rex Kickstand Operator Joined: Jan 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki B-King Location: Midwest Posts: 297	Don't forget the ONE successful religious/drug organization: The American Indian Church Legally enjoying the benefits of Peyote (mescaline) for over 100 yrs. Much to the continued chagrin of the US Drug Police. B-Rex

04-03-2008, 03:43 AM	#38 (permalink)
pinky44 Handlebar Consultant Joined: Feb 2007 Bike: 1983 GS 550m kat / 1991 GSX 600f Location: Nottingham,England Posts: 636	Let the guy wear his turbin instead of a helmet while riding, BUT have a rule in place that if involved in a accident his fault or otherwise he would not be covered for any injuries to himself only covered for the other driver/rider`s injuries, on the premis that he has not taken sufficiant precautions to prevent head injuries. As the law where he lives says you must ride with a helmet. I personaly would want to protect my head,face with one in the event of a spill. Well thats my rant for the day. __________________ Whatever you ride ride safe and keep the rubber on the ground and the shiny side up.

04-03-2008, 06:32 AM	#39 (permalink)
tricker Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Joined: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 5,221	wait... is this the rant thread? looks back at the sign on the door.. turns around and leaves __________________ If anyone needs me... just PM me

04-04-2008, 12:42 AM	#40 (permalink)
bigkat1100 Where Am I ? Joined: Dec 2007 Bike: 1993 Suzuki gsx1100fp Katana, 1976 Yamaha rd400 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 31	Helmet laws Years ago when I lived in England there was an Indian who rode a moped to work. He didnt obey the helmet law.After several fines he went to court to protest that it was his religion to wear a turban. Long story short, he won the case.Typical aint it foreigners can get away with anything if they plead ITS MY RELIGION.

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