What to buy: GSXR1000 or Hayabusa???

Hey all. I have a 00GSXR 600 and I love it. The only thing I don't love is the fact that its pretty slow to me now (been riding 3 months). I'm going to keep it and rather blowing a hole in my wallet to get this thing fast, I'm just going to buy a second bike and turn this one into my trick bike.

First off, I want.. no I will have fuel injection on the next bike i buy. What years did the busa/1k start doing injection? I'm looking to spend around 7-8k, and i think that should be enough. I know both bikes have potential to be "insane" fast with heavy mods, so I kinda don't know which one to go for. I'm in love with the look of the busa, but still fond of the 1k. I haven't rode either one, but would love to hear what ya'll think! Also, is there a particular year(s) I should keep away from?

Thanks,
James

[sime]

james if you're finding a GSXR6 slow after 3 months riding it, why not go the whole hog and get a GSV-R, y'know like the ones kenny roberts jr and john hopkins ride. should be able to handle your abilities for a while...

i don't know what a gsvr is, but it doesn't sound like a streetable bike. Its not that a 600 is slow, its just that there not much I can do to make it a whole lot quicker (I've already geared it, jetted, air filter n exhaust). I'm up here at 5250ft above sea level, and the air quality here makes it like we're 7k above. I've driven my friends zx9 (bored over to a 1000cc) and that power level seemed to suit my "need".

[sime]

Guess you'd better get the 1000. 5250 ft = 1500m (roughly?) I had my Bandit 600 (completely std jetting, gearing, pipe, filter) up at that level a few weeks back (Mt Hotham, VIC) and it just sang. go figure

[Jonathan]

I would recommend the 1000. The hayabusa is a great machine, but if your wanting to have a great ride around town and possibly to and from work, I dont feel the hayabusa is the best choice for that.

[87gsxrnut]

(been riding 3 months)

Uh, so I guess you are an expert now huh? Well, if you don't care about either, then I would look at the comfort level of both bikes. The 1000 is painful for me to ride, the Huyabusa is better. I think the Huyabusa has more options for mind boggling power/speed than the 1K. Both have too many HPs to be pratically used on the street, IMO. Go here to see some crazy Huyabusa motor parts:

http://www.aperaceparts.com/

Unless you want to duke it out in a straight line all day w/big bore bikes, then stick with your 600. That bike has much more potential than you give it credit for. Oh yeah, you want to do "tricks". Keep some extra dough in your wallet for the top end of that motor. It will eventually thrash itself from the lack of oil when the sump can't deliver while being forced to operate at crazy angles.

You really want to kick someone's butt in the twisties? Get a DRZ.

- Nut

[Uncle Bob]

Want to make your 600 faster, get training. Find a good track school and invest in yourself.

Then when you're at the track riding the 600 as fast as you can and being very proud of yourself don't worry that one of the instructors will pass you on a smaller less powerfull bike.

[87gsxrnut]

Then when you're at the track riding the 600 as fast as you can and being very proud of yourself don't worry that one of the instructors will pass you on a smaller less powerfull bike.

That sucks, doesn't it?

I've been passed my fair share of times by all types of bikes. I get mine though. I REALLY like pissing off GSX-R 1000 boyyyyzzzz on my 1987 250 Ninja. Oh, that hurts (them anyway!)

They get me in the straights (Duh), but, hey anyone can twist a throttle. The billion things you have to do to practice and learn how to gain corner speed is usually lost on the masses. Many of them won't look me in the eye afterwards. Especially when I tell them the bike cost me all of $150.



- Nut

[Clint]

3 months, eh?

Thanks for all the replies. That somewhat helps me. I guess the 99-00 busa's (from a little research) have their fair share of problems, so I guess it will be a 01 gsxr 1k vs a 01 busa. Comfortability will have the last word!

You know, I'm desparatly trying to find someone to teach me the road course stuff (i've done it plenty in a car, but I know a bike is very different) but no one I know does it or even knows who I can talk to. Plus we only have 1 track, and it's pretty expensive to get on it when it is open. I do practice a little on the street (when traffic is low) apexing and balancing in corners. But I'm sure an instructor could show me more than I could learn on my own.

As for "tricks", I'm not talking just about wheelies. I can only hold a wheelie for about 5 secs anyway and that's not long enough to dry up the head. I'm talking more about skitching the back or the side, standing up, riding the windscreen, and things that involve the bike being level and at a constant speed. I've come pretty close to dropping it but I haven't myself. Hell, 2 people I taught how to ride both dropped MY bike. But its not a big deal, because its just a trick bike like I say it is and it will go down again probably. Hence the reason I want another.

I'm by no means implying I'm an experienced rider, but I'm buying a 2nd bike regardless. What's wrong with buying a bigger bike?? I'm single and don't have many friends, so I'm gonna enjoy my money while I have it.

Thanks,
James

[87gsxrnut]

There is nothing wrong with buying a bigger bike. Just be aware you are jumping way up in the horsewower arena, and it is extremely easy to get in over your head without realizing it.

We just don't want you to be a statistic bro. Search out a local racer, or someone that has been a racer. They will help you out. Buy them lunch or some beers AFTER the ride I'm sure someone wouldn't mind helping you out.

- Nut

[The Chad]

it takes longer than you think to run out of oil in the sump, A buddy of mine sets his bike on the 12 bar and lets it sit there and run for a couple of minuites before the oil light comes on. Good chance that the bike will be fine so long as it's still moving.

[Louis]

Originally Posted by onefastmx5

I'm single and don't have many friends, so I'm gonna enjoy my money while I have it.

Enjoy life while you still have it.

[Uncle Bob]

You're welcome to stick around here but I've included some links to sites that are more stunt oriented since that seems your area of interest.


http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/show...ge=1&pp=20

http://www.begotka.com/home_frame.html

http://www.cybersportbike.com/front.htm

http://web16.renert.sitesitting.net/...ex2.php?cat=16

Here's a site that can tell you what you want to know about the busa.

http://www.hayabusa.org/

[87gsxrnut]

Good chance that the bike will be fine so long as it's still moving.

Could be. But, a lot of the top ends I have torn apart from admitted wheelie-monsters usually have premature cam journal wear. That is just what I have seen though. Motors these days are pretty stout.

- Nut

Thanks ya'll, I appreciate the input. I'm off tomarrow, so I'm gonna go check both out. I'm not gonna waste my time/money buying a 750 to "work my way up". It'll turn out just like a car project I had 2 years ago... I put in a T28BB turbo kit, loved it for about 6 months. I started at 8psi, then 12psi, then 15psi, then 18psi and it was maxed out at that point. Got bored with the power and wish I had just bought the T3/T04e kit (the big boy) in the first place because high 12's is too slow for myself (only pushed about 1Gforce). I'm not gonna make the same mistake twice.

Does anyone here personally know anyone in the Albuquerque or Santa Fe area that I could talk to about road racing? I've wanted to do it since I bought the bike, but I just can't find anyone.

Thanks,
James

[87gsxrnut]

Talk to these guys:

http://www.smri-racing.org/

[Rees]

James

When you get bored with a bog stock 'Busa or 1000, you could turbo it. I have read an article in one of the local motorcycle mags here in Oz about place in Sydney that Turboed a 'Busa and a GSXR1000. The bloke who test rode the 'Busa returned from his test ride with browned underdaks due to the increase in power. I don't know if you boys and girls in the States and Canada go for that sort of thing?

Cheers

Rees

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