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tricker · 01-11-2008, 03:39 PM

I'd get one if i had the funds. I love the sound of a buell

GSF650S · 01-15-2008, 09:28 AM

Here's a pretty good short interview with Erik Buell regarding the 1125R:

Buells: The bike and man still cool

**intimid8er** · 01-15-2008, 10:16 AM

Nice article.

B-Rex · 01-19-2008, 09:48 PM

Nice pics and article!

I don't have much experience with Buells but have I have a fair amount of time on Rotax engines. I've flown several of their engines in sportplanes. If the Buell's Rotax is anything like their aircraft mills, this is going to be one terrific machine (I do realize a bike is more than just its engine). Rotax has made their reputation by building very reliable, high horsepower-to-weight ratio engines.

I find it interesting that Buell chose a light, water-cooled Rotax to replace the old technology, heavy, air-cooled Sporty engine. That's exactly what happened in the sportplane industry when light, water-cooled Rotax engines replaced the old technology, heavy, air-cooled Lycomings and Continentals. In those days it was considered a radical departure from the then current airplane engine philosophy that simple (read radiator-less) mills were superior and more reliable. Rotax has permanently fixed that misconception for small planes.

So, with that new, aircraft-derived engine, I do expect that new Buell to "fly".

B-Rex

JmalB · 01-21-2008, 05:13 AM

It's only for the 1125R. They still run the old air cooled mills in the other models.

chrisan · 01-28-2008, 01:23 PM

A frien of mine bought one a month ago. I already tried it in the local canjons.
It is a much better bike than his previous "lightenning", it handles really, really well, I would say more like, or even better than a normal japanese bike. it still vibrates though.All and all I liked it. My only concern is that it is an expensive bike, he paid like 15 000 for it and all the bike is doing is resembling a japanese bike more than it did before... He said that he was considering the new Ducati, /same money/ but he is really into Buells, so he ended up with it. He says that he likes Bueels because they are more interesting to ride, sort of keeping you on the edge /my translation- harder to ride/ and dislakes the japanese bikes because they are boring and dull -very submissive. I think this is a strong trend among Buell folowers, and a school of thought that justifies owning a Buell. For my money I wouldn't own one, even the new one.
maybe next model and maybe if the price is lower.

Ext1jdh · 01-28-2008, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisan

dislakes the japanese bikes because they are boring and dull -very submissive.

Who wants to show this "friend" how submissive a Japanese bike can be? Something tells me a 1000 CC Suzuki inline four can take an 1100 CC V-Twin.

Plus, at $15000, your friend paid too much. The MSRP is only $11995

tricker · 01-28-2008, 01:48 PM

my bike is submissive?

sounds kinda dirty to me

chrisan · 01-28-2008, 11:09 PM

I'm sorry about "submissive" I am perefrazing the conversation.
English is not my language, and at the time I was practicing my russian with this friend of mine /his parents are russians, actually I used to work with his dad, and for some reason we always converce in russian/
He paid more because he ordered the bike delivered, he mentioned that he got the first bike for L.A., special order, something of the sort.
He's a nice guy helps me a lot with my bike, and whatever help I need.
Once I lended him my old 600 for few weeks when his lightenning was in the shop, /riding a bike is his only mean of transportation/, and even then he said that he didn't enjoy the gixxer, that it was boring.

oyrider · 01-29-2008, 01:25 AM

I just sold a 2000 Buell M2. It was a versatile torquey ride. The M2 was more a standard than sport bike, but handled well and was a lot of fun on winding roads. It went on a 2500 mile ride to Colorado Springs, CO and it performed well getting 55 to 60 mpg. I would buy another one. (too many others I want first though) I bought it new in Nov 99 for $9000.

POE-BOY SAMICH · 01-29-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisan

I'm sorry about "submissive" I am perefrazing the conversation.
English is not my language, and at the time I was practicing my russian with this friend of mine /his parents are russians, actually I used to work with his dad, and for some reason we always converce in russian/
He paid more because he ordered the bike delivered, he mentioned that he got the first bike for L.A., special order, something of the sort.
He's a nice guy helps me a lot with my bike, and whatever help I need.
Once I lended him my old 600 for few weeks when his lightenning was in the shop, /riding a bike is his only mean of transportation/, and even then he said that he didn't enjoy the gixxer, that it was boring.

Sounds like a good friend to have chrisan.
But, gosh, that $15k still sounds a little steep.
I'll bet a little patience could have saved him a few thousand dollars.
But, hey, he's happy and he got the bike he wanted so who am I to comment, right?

Peace.

Ext1jdh · 01-29-2008, 10:36 AM

It'll definitely turn a few heads at the stoplight, that's for sure.

eb77k · 01-29-2008, 05:49 PM

Here's my favorite Buell:

01-15-2008, 10:16 AM	#23 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 30 41'47.99" N 83 11'26.54" W Hold My Beer Posts: 10,092	Nice article. __________________ Song Pick of the Week 12/03 Booker T and the MG's - Green Onions Bonus for Buster The Airborne Toxic Event - Sometime Around Midnight I had no idea 20% ABV beer could get me drunk so fast!

01-19-2008, 09:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
B-Rex Kickstand Operator Joined: Jan 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki B-King Location: Midwest Posts: 297	Great Mill Nice pics and article! I don't have much experience with Buells but have I have a fair amount of time on Rotax engines. I've flown several of their engines in sportplanes. If the Buell's Rotax is anything like their aircraft mills, this is going to be one terrific machine (I do realize a bike is more than just its engine). Rotax has made their reputation by building very reliable, high horsepower-to-weight ratio engines. I find it interesting that Buell chose a light, water-cooled Rotax to replace the old technology, heavy, air-cooled Sporty engine. That's exactly what happened in the sportplane industry when light, water-cooled Rotax engines replaced the old technology, heavy, air-cooled Lycomings and Continentals. In those days it was considered a radical departure from the then current airplane engine philosophy that simple (read radiator-less) mills were superior and more reliable. Rotax has permanently fixed that misconception for small planes. So, with that new, aircraft-derived engine, I do expect that new Buell to "fly". B-Rex

01-28-2008, 01:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
chrisan Found second gear by accident Joined: Aug 2004 Bike: suzuki bandit 400/ gsxr 600 k4/ gsxr 750 k7 Location: L.A. Posts: 340	A frien of mine bought one a month ago. I already tried it in the local canjons. It is a much better bike than his previous "lightenning", it handles really, really well, I would say more like, or even better than a normal japanese bike. it still vibrates though.All and all I liked it. My only concern is that it is an expensive bike, he paid like 15 000 for it and all the bike is doing is resembling a japanese bike more than it did before... He said that he was considering the new Ducati, /same money/ but he is really into Buells, so he ended up with it. He says that he likes Bueels because they are more interesting to ride, sort of keeping you on the edge /my translation- harder to ride/ and dislakes the japanese bikes because they are boring and dull -very submissive. I think this is a strong trend among Buell folowers, and a school of thought that justifies owning a Buell. For my money I wouldn't own one, even the new one. maybe next model and maybe if the price is lower. __________________ gsxr 600 k4 yellow gsxr 750 k7 silver

01-28-2008, 11:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
chrisan Found second gear by accident Joined: Aug 2004 Bike: suzuki bandit 400/ gsxr 600 k4/ gsxr 750 k7 Location: L.A. Posts: 340	I'm sorry about "submissive" I am perefrazing the conversation. English is not my language, and at the time I was practicing my russian with this friend of mine /his parents are russians, actually I used to work with his dad, and for some reason we always converce in russian/ He paid more because he ordered the bike delivered, he mentioned that he got the first bike for L.A., special order, something of the sort. He's a nice guy helps me a lot with my bike, and whatever help I need. Once I lended him my old 600 for few weeks when his lightenning was in the shop, /riding a bike is his only mean of transportation/, and even then he said that he didn't enjoy the gixxer, that it was boring. __________________ gsxr 600 k4 yellow gsxr 750 k7 silver

01-29-2008, 10:36 AM	#32 (permalink)
Ext1jdh Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: Sold Location: Elgin, IL, US Posts: 5,257	It'll definitely turn a few heads at the stoplight, that's for sure. __________________ I am lurking. I am likely to be eaten by a grue.

01-11-2008, 03:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
tricker Does not play well with others. Joined: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 5,512	I'd get one if i had the funds. I love the sound of a buell

01-15-2008, 09:28 AM	#22 (permalink)
GSF650S Seat Tester Joined: Dec 2006 Bike: 2005 Suzuki Bandit 650S Location: Toronto, On. Canada Posts: 58	Here's a pretty good short interview with Erik Buell regarding the 1125R: Buells: The bike and man still cool

01-28-2008, 01:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
tricker Does not play well with others. Joined: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 5,512	my bike is submissive? sounds kinda dirty to me

01-29-2008, 01:25 AM	#30 (permalink)
oyrider In Training Joined: May 2007 Bike: 06 M50, 06 Ducati ST3s, 07 Honda cbr600rr Location: SoCal Posts: 134	I just sold a 2000 Buell M2. It was a versatile torquey ride. The M2 was more a standard than sport bike, but handled well and was a lot of fun on winding roads. It went on a 2500 mile ride to Colorado Springs, CO and it performed well getting 55 to 60 mpg. I would buy another one. (too many others I want first though) I bought it new in Nov 99 for $9000.

01-29-2008, 05:49 PM	#33 (permalink)
eb77k Found second gear by accident Joined: Mar 2007 Bike: I'm lucky, I've got alot Location: minnesota Posts: 329	Here's my favorite Buell: Attached Thumbnails __________________ MOTO GUZZI loud valves save lives

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