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Low&Slow · 10-14-2007, 04:34 PM

Today I saw a Goldwing with all the bells and whistles, I mean load brother. The one thing that really got me about this bike was the outriggers, two wheels on spars so that you never have to put your feet down. Now the question I have is, wouldn't a convertible been cheaper and is this really biking. I'm not trying to piss anybody off, I don't have a problem with windshields and radio's and such, but how much is to much.

Rockhead · 10-14-2007, 04:38 PM

Their money, who cares.

Low&Slow · 10-14-2007, 05:09 PM

I don't care if you ride a motorized beer keg, people can do as they wish. The question is can you reach the level of comfort and convenience that you've completely left the riding experience behind? I understand a person on a old ridged frame might look at someone on a RoadKing or a C90T and say " that's not really riding. " but at some point you almost ask yourself whats the point.

**Clint** · 10-14-2007, 06:04 PM

I've always said I'd buy a Miata long before a Goldwing. I just don't get it. That goes double for trikes.

blackie1491 · 10-14-2007, 07:14 PM

For some, the knees go first, so outrigger or trikes is an option.

So don't worry about the choice others make. Do your own thing and respect the rights of others to do the same.

tricker · 10-14-2007, 07:20 PM

i saw two of those for the first time a few weeks ago... little confused at first but of course that doesn't take much.

kraig205 · 10-14-2007, 07:37 PM

It's their ride, if they feel safe on it, who's to say any diffreernt

frostbitevinnie · 10-14-2007, 07:54 PM

Maybe a handicapp still wanting to ride?

**Clint** · 10-14-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie1491

So don't worry about the choice others make. Do your own thing and respect the rights of others to do the same.

We aren't discussing the rights of others. We're discussing what we'd do and why. You don't need to project that onto others.

And Vin, it's not cool to call someone "a handicap". Don't define people by their disabilities.

SNAFU · 10-14-2007, 08:15 PM

IMHO a trike or a side car is still riding, even training wheels.

Low&Slow · 10-14-2007, 08:16 PM

Again, I'm not worried about what others ride, I've said that already. What i'm getting at is, how much of the riding experience can you remove and it still be riding. Take away the wind, the feel of the road, the lean in the turns and everything that makes biking, biking and all you have left is a conveyance. If you want to be wind free, listen to the radio, visit with your passenger and have a heated seat, why not buy a convertible.

SNAFU · 10-14-2007, 08:30 PM

It's all subjective. Some people don't consider people with scooters as riders.

**Clint** · 10-14-2007, 08:43 PM

That's more of a status or machismo thing, though. You can really rail on some of those scooters.

I'm in complete agreement with L&S. You take away the lean, and any semblance of maneuverability, and you no longer have motorcycling. I'm speaking strictly from a standpoint of the experience, and not the outward appearance.

Alex13 · 10-14-2007, 08:54 PM

Yeah those things do get kind of crazy. I personally say buy a convertible at that price. I see what you are saying though. They do start to lose their motorcycle qualities with all of the luxuries.

Rockhead · 10-14-2007, 09:04 PM

Still subjective though. Lots of people argue that wearing gear takes away from the riding experience.

I can’t knock the Goldwings bells and whistles IV never been on one. It all depends what kind of riding experience the consumers looking for.

SoCalCruisin · 10-14-2007, 09:11 PM

There's a Vietnam vet I ride PGR missions with. He rides a Goldwing trike. His handle is Pegleg. There could be a number of reasons a real biker might be on a trike or have those outriggers. I wouldn't tell Pegleg he isn't experiencing motorcycling.

And his GW trike is nothing like a Miata.

Low&Slow · 10-14-2007, 09:30 PM

This thread does not apply to riders with physical conditions that do not allow them to ride a conventional bike.

ORBrit · 10-14-2007, 10:26 PM

some Goldwings have the outriggers that retract - so the only time they come down is coming to a stop for stability at low speed. They retract when you get moving again.
I think that if it's a case of riding with the outriggers vs. not riding at all, then bring on the training wheels!

Some would say that wearing so much protective gear that you can't feel the wind in your face and your T-shirt rippling in the wind isn't real riding. To each his own.

Barbarian · 10-15-2007, 12:13 AM

I had to go and find myself a damn video of this in action.

Easier than putting the bike on a centerstand, I suppose.

**Clint** · 10-15-2007, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low&Slow

This thread does not apply to riders with physical conditions that do not allow them to ride a conventional bike.

+1. That's about being part of a group, not "motorcycling" so much. Nothing wrong with that.

10-14-2007, 04:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Low&Slow Fifth gear streak Joined: Sep 2006 Bike: 07 Vulcan 1600 Classic Location: Bell City, Louisiana Posts: 1,356	Not Really Riding? Today I saw a Goldwing with all the bells and whistles, I mean load brother. The one thing that really got me about this bike was the outriggers, two wheels on spars so that you never have to put your feet down. Now the question I have is, wouldn't a convertible been cheaper and is this really biking. I'm not trying to piss anybody off, I don't have a problem with windshields and radio's and such, but how much is to much.

10-14-2007, 04:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rockhead M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: M50 Location: 1060 West Addison, Chicago Posts: 3,758	Their money, who cares. __________________ Go Cubs!!!

10-14-2007, 07:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
kraig205 Seat Tester Joined: May 2006 Bike: 1993 HD FXR Chromed out, 2005 C50, debaffled, lowered, solo luggage rack and backrest Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 67	It's their ride, if they feel safe on it, who's to say any diffreernt __________________ Either stand behind the troops or stand in front of them, take your pick

10-14-2007, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie No Significant Other Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250 Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 2,422	Maybe a handicapp still wanting to ride? __________________ "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's easier to harass rich women than Bikers..." ---Unknown

10-14-2007, 08:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
SNAFU Leaned over, knee down Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Black Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 4,779	IMHO a trike or a side car is still riding, even training wheels. __________________

10-14-2007, 05:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Low&Slow Fifth gear streak Joined: Sep 2006 Bike: 07 Vulcan 1600 Classic Location: Bell City, Louisiana Posts: 1,356	I don't care if you ride a motorized beer keg, people can do as they wish. The question is can you reach the level of comfort and convenience that you've completely left the riding experience behind? I understand a person on a old ridged frame might look at someone on a RoadKing or a C90T and say " that's not really riding. " but at some point you almost ask yourself whats the point.

10-14-2007, 07:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
blackie1491 I took the All Bran Challenge Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: C50SE Location: Aldergrove, B.C., Canada Posts: 7,210	For some, the knees go first, so outrigger or trikes is an option. So don't worry about the choice others make. Do your own thing and respect the rights of others to do the same.

10-14-2007, 07:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
tricker Just Won't Go Away ! Joined: May 2007 Bike: 2004 kawasaki zzr 600 Location: rochester, minnesota Posts: 4,918	i saw two of those for the first time a few weeks ago... little confused at first but of course that doesn't take much.

10-14-2007, 08:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Low&Slow Fifth gear streak Joined: Sep 2006 Bike: 07 Vulcan 1600 Classic Location: Bell City, Louisiana Posts: 1,356	Again, I'm not worried about what others ride, I've said that already. What i'm getting at is, how much of the riding experience can you remove and it still be riding. Take away the wind, the feel of the road, the lean in the turns and everything that makes biking, biking and all you have left is a conveyance. If you want to be wind free, listen to the radio, visit with your passenger and have a heated seat, why not buy a convertible.

10-14-2007, 08:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
SNAFU Leaned over, knee down Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Black Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 4,779	It's all subjective. Some people don't consider people with scooters as riders. __________________

10-14-2007, 08:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Alex13 Fender Buffer Joined: Sep 2007 Bike: 2007 Boulevard M50 (Black) Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 442	Yeah those things do get kind of crazy. I personally say buy a convertible at that price. I see what you are saying though. They do start to lose their motorcycle qualities with all of the luxuries.

10-14-2007, 09:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rockhead M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: M50 Location: 1060 West Addison, Chicago Posts: 3,758	Still subjective though. Lots of people argue that wearing gear takes away from the riding experience. I can’t knock the Goldwings bells and whistles IV never been on one. It all depends what kind of riding experience the consumers looking for. __________________ Go Cubs!!! Last edited by Rockhead; 10-14-2007 at 09:15 PM.

10-14-2007, 09:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
SoCalCruisin Found second gear by accident Joined: May 2006 Bike: 2005 Yamaha Midnight Royal Star Venture, 2005 Boulevard C50T (For Sale) Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 340	There's a Vietnam vet I ride PGR missions with. He rides a Goldwing trike. His handle is Pegleg. There could be a number of reasons a real biker might be on a trike or have those outriggers. I wouldn't tell Pegleg he isn't experiencing motorcycling. And his GW trike is nothing like a Miata. __________________

10-14-2007, 09:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
Low&Slow Fifth gear streak Joined: Sep 2006 Bike: 07 Vulcan 1600 Classic Location: Bell City, Louisiana Posts: 1,356	This thread does not apply to riders with physical conditions that do not allow them to ride a conventional bike.

10-14-2007, 10:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
ORBrit U.B's LoveChild Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: 2007 Suzuki Boulevard S50 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 1,076	some Goldwings have the outriggers that retract - so the only time they come down is coming to a stop for stability at low speed. They retract when you get moving again. I think that if it's a case of riding with the outriggers vs. not riding at all, then bring on the training wheels! Some would say that wearing so much protective gear that you can't feel the wind in your face and your T-shirt rippling in the wind isn't real riding. To each his own. __________________ Ranked best in the nation by NHTSA for Motorcycle Safety Course best practices.

10-15-2007, 12:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
Barbarian Kickstand Operator Joined: Jun 2007 Bike: 2006 Suzuki Bandit 650S w/ABS Location: Montreal Posts: 299	I had to go and find myself a damn video of this in action. Easier than putting the bike on a centerstand, I suppose. __________________ See ABS in action complete with plummy voiceover.

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