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zenn68 · 08-29-2007, 07:42 AM

ABC News: Man Drives Off With Dead Motorcyclist

This is just sad.
The driver deserves every bit of jail sentence he may get, Yet according to the story the dude on the bike was doing 80. Almost bound to happen.

650Doug · 08-29-2007, 07:44 AM

Man, that's f**ked up right there. Ugh.

busa-boy33 · 08-29-2007, 07:53 AM

again... another drunk driver takes a life.. again we slap them on the wrist and tell them not to do it again. When will this cycle end and we start making people more responsible for their actions? Sad..

DeRiggi · 08-29-2007, 08:24 AM

Busa

I long await the day where we actually hold people accountable for their actions

themeatmanlandry · 08-29-2007, 08:37 AM

He *just* got caught. Who's to say his punishment will only be a slap on the wrist? I think we should stay tuned for further developments.

Sad story, though. Dude must have been freakin'-A drunk not to notice. Personally, I don't buy the whole "I was drunk and never knew I had a body lodged in my grill" thing. I've been drunk. I would have certainly noticed being involved in a major accident.

PhotoJoe · 08-29-2007, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeRiggi

Busa

I long await the day where we actually hold people accountable for their actions

But that would violate their "civil rights"!!!

jgreth · 08-29-2007, 09:40 AM

Pathetic... I think ALL vehicles should have a breath-alyzer built in to the ignition system IMHO.

People just can't be trusted to make responsible decisions on their own.

I hope the guy loses 20 years of his life for this. A 'stupid' and 'simple' mistake? Sure... one bad decision cost someone else their entire life. Let this guy pay.

themeatmanlandry · 08-29-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgreth

Pathetic... I think ALL vehicles should have a breath-alyzer built in to the ignition system IMHO.

People just can't be trusted to make responsible decisions on their own.

As much as I hate Big Brother (the gov't silly, not the show

), I have to agree.

buster · 08-29-2007, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeRiggi

Busa

I long await the day where we actually hold people accountable for their actions

again.

May the motorist wither and perish in a hell of his own making!

...And of course the m/c rider just had to be speeding, the motorist couldn't possibly have to accept sole responsibility!

busa-boy33 · 08-29-2007, 10:08 AM

I know I am jumping the gun but we all know whats going to happen to the drunk driver..nothing.. take for instance the young girl who was racing a friend and also drunk and ended up killing the memeber of a royal family here visiting. I am being vague on the details but she only received a 2 yr sentence to which she will probably only server a few months of. But 2 people are dead as a result of her actions.. Does she deserved the death penalty? Maybe not but she should never be able to drive again AND a more stringent sentence should be passed down to her then just 2 yrs.. IMO of course..lol

Scribbles · 08-29-2007, 10:18 AM

Remember, Folks--a person may be very smart, but generally speaking, people are stupid.

What was the motorcyclist doing traveling at 80? Not to belittle the gravity of the situation, but it seems he was also somewhat at fault.

I agree, too--if you are too drunk to notice someone hanging off of your car, you deserve to go to jail/prison for a very long time. And, if you do ever get out, you loose the right to get a license for the rest of your life.

busa-boy33 · 08-29-2007, 10:22 AM

80 is a bit fast especially if there is a danger of someone pulling out in front of you off a side road. If I am in a crowded place where thats a potential then no way do I go fast.. its just suicidal..

Ext1jdh · 08-29-2007, 10:24 AM

EDIT:
Cut for a new thread

buster · 08-29-2007, 10:24 AM

BUT, who said he was doing 80mph the one credible witness..... the drunk driver?!?!?

jgreth · 08-29-2007, 10:26 AM

You see, there could be 2 truths here...

1) Everyone assumes all motorcyclists are squids doing 80 down all roads. They can ( and will ) lie to justify their statements.
2) The kid was actually being stupid going 80 down a road where someone even remotely has the chance of pulling in front of him.

When I'm on a road with businesses/stores/whatever, I'm NEVER in the right lane unless I'm turning. Even when I am in the left lane, I'm still going only 5-10 over the posted speed limit and VERY carefully watching for assclown cagers turning from the left side into my lane or people in the right switching over fast to avoid people cutting them off as said driver did above.

Anyhow... who knows the real truth. The only truth is the guy was drinking and didn't see the motorcyclist. How fast the kid was going is speculation IMHO.

themeatmanlandry · 08-29-2007, 10:28 AM

EDIT: ALSO Cut for a new thread.

tzeigler88 · 08-29-2007, 10:30 AM

The combination of both of there actions just didn't mix right, which should come as no surprise because they made poor decisions

Scribbles · 08-29-2007, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgreth

You see, there could be 2 truths here...

1) Everyone assumes all motorcyclists are squids doing 80 down all roads. They can ( and will ) lie to justify their statements.
2) The kid was actually being stupid going 80 down a road where someone even remotely has the chance of pulling in front of him.

When I'm on a road with businesses/stores/whatever, I'm NEVER in the right lane unless I'm turning. Even when I am in the left lane, I'm still going only 5-10 over the posted speed limit and VERY carefully watching for assclown cagers turning from the left side into my lane or people in the right switching over fast to avoid people cutting them off as said driver did above.

Anyhow... who knows the real truth. The only truth is the guy was drinking and didn't see the motorcyclist. How fast the kid was going is speculation IMHO.

Not necessarily. In 1993, Lancer and I were rear-ended by an uninsured idiot who had dropped his dashboard cig. lighter between his legs. We were stopped at a traffic light. When the police officer came over to take our statements, he mentioned that the other driver was doing 38mph when he hit us. We asked how he knew this, and he told us that the other driver's spedometer was stuck at 38mph. We looked, and sure enough the spedo. read 38. Made it east for them to charge the guy with the multiple violations he incurred!

I do not know a lot about motorcycle mechanics, but I imagine that this could happen on a bike, too. It would also take a tremendous amount of force for a body to become imbedded in a car window like that.

jgreth · 08-29-2007, 10:37 AM

It was both of their fault IMHO. I don't know the full circumstances of course but as I said above, I drive VERY defensively on those types of roads. The same goes for single lane roads. I never speed down those, it's just not worth it. The only place I open it up a bit is out in the country ( where you have 4+ miles between side roads ) or on the interstate ( and even then I go MAYBE 85-90 tops but that's in a 70 and usually only when I'm passing trucks that like to spit rocks at me ).

themeatmanlandry · 08-29-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scribbles

I do not know a lot about motorcycle mechanics, but I imagine that this could happen on a bike, too. It would also take a tremendous amount of force for a body to become imbedded in a car window like that.

Actually, you might be surprised at how slow a person can be going during a wreck and still get tossed through a car window.

08-29-2007, 07:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
zenn68 Clunked into first gear Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: GS500e Location: New York Posts: 236	Man Drives Off With Dead Motorcyclist ABC News: Man Drives Off With Dead Motorcyclist This is just sad. The driver deserves every bit of jail sentence he may get, Yet according to the story the dude on the bike was doing 80. Almost bound to happen.

08-29-2007, 08:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
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08-29-2007, 08:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	He just got caught. Who's to say his punishment will only be a slap on the wrist? I think we should stay tuned for further developments. Sad story, though. Dude must have been freakin'-A drunk not to notice. Personally, I don't buy the whole "I was drunk and never knew I had a body lodged in my grill" thing. I've been drunk. I would have certainly noticed being involved in a major accident. __________________ Go to hell

08-29-2007, 09:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
jgreth Mr. Threadjack Joined: Aug 2007 Bike: 2007 Suzuki GS500F Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 3,078	Pathetic... I think ALL vehicles should have a breath-alyzer built in to the ignition system IMHO. People just can't be trusted to make responsible decisions on their own. I hope the guy loses 20 years of his life for this. A 'stupid' and 'simple' mistake? Sure... one bad decision cost someone else their entire life. Let this guy pay. __________________ What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie? You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now. What happened to then? We passed then. When? Just now. We're at now now. Go back to then. When? Now! Now? Now! I can't. Why? We missed it. When? Just now. When will then be now? Soon.

08-29-2007, 10:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Scribbles Fourth gear and illegal Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: Looking for a new experience! (last bike--Lt. Blue 2005 S50) Location: The Heart of it All Posts: 742	Remember, Folks--a person may be very smart, but generally speaking, people are stupid. What was the motorcyclist doing traveling at 80? Not to belittle the gravity of the situation, but it seems he was also somewhat at fault. I agree, too--if you are too drunk to notice someone hanging off of your car, you deserve to go to jail/prison for a very long time. And, if you do ever get out, you loose the right to get a license for the rest of your life. __________________ -- Scribbles Internet scribblings of a random nature... iPodities Last edited by Scribbles; 08-29-2007 at 10:23 AM.

08-29-2007, 07:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
650Doug Third gear and cruising Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 459	Man, that's f**ked up right there. Ugh.

08-29-2007, 07:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
busa-boy33 M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,922	again... another drunk driver takes a life.. again we slap them on the wrist and tell them not to do it again. When will this cycle end and we start making people more responsible for their actions? Sad..

08-29-2007, 10:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
busa-boy33 M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,922	I know I am jumping the gun but we all know whats going to happen to the drunk driver..nothing.. take for instance the young girl who was racing a friend and also drunk and ended up killing the memeber of a royal family here visiting. I am being vague on the details but she only received a 2 yr sentence to which she will probably only server a few months of. But 2 people are dead as a result of her actions.. Does she deserved the death penalty? Maybe not but she should never be able to drive again AND a more stringent sentence should be passed down to her then just 2 yrs.. IMO of course..lol

08-29-2007, 10:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
busa-boy33 M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,922	80 is a bit fast especially if there is a danger of someone pulling out in front of you off a side road. If I am in a crowded place where thats a potential then no way do I go fast.. its just suicidal..

08-29-2007, 10:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ext1jdh Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: Sold Location: Elgin, IL, US Posts: 5,257	EDIT: Cut for a new thread __________________ I am lurking. I am likely to be eaten by a grue. Last edited by Ext1jdh; 08-29-2007 at 10:26 AM.

08-29-2007, 10:26 AM	#15 (permalink)
jgreth Mr. Threadjack Joined: Aug 2007 Bike: 2007 Suzuki GS500F Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 3,078	You see, there could be 2 truths here... 1) Everyone assumes all motorcyclists are squids doing 80 down all roads. They can ( and will ) lie to justify their statements. 2) The kid was actually being stupid going 80 down a road where someone even remotely has the chance of pulling in front of him. When I'm on a road with businesses/stores/whatever, I'm NEVER in the right lane unless I'm turning. Even when I am in the left lane, I'm still going only 5-10 over the posted speed limit and VERY carefully watching for assclown cagers turning from the left side into my lane or people in the right switching over fast to avoid people cutting them off as said driver did above. Anyhow... who knows the real truth. The only truth is the guy was drinking and didn't see the motorcyclist. How fast the kid was going is speculation IMHO. __________________ What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie? You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now. What happened to then? We passed then. When? Just now. We're at now now. Go back to then. When? Now! Now? Now! I can't. Why? We missed it. When? Just now. When will then be now? Soon.

08-29-2007, 10:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
themeatmanlandry Happy-ass Lunatic Joined: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 600S (Black); 2006 GSXR750 (Black) Location: Memphis Posts: 11,423	EDIT: ALSO Cut for a new thread. __________________ Go to hell

08-29-2007, 10:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
tzeigler88 Seat Tester Joined: Aug 2007 Bike: 1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750w with goodies!!! Location: Simi Valley CA Posts: 67	The combination of both of there actions just didn't mix right, which should come as no surprise because they made poor decisions Last edited by tzeigler88; 08-29-2007 at 10:34 AM.

08-29-2007, 10:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
jgreth Mr. Threadjack Joined: Aug 2007 Bike: 2007 Suzuki GS500F Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 3,078	It was both of their fault IMHO. I don't know the full circumstances of course but as I said above, I drive VERY defensively on those types of roads. The same goes for single lane roads. I never speed down those, it's just not worth it. The only place I open it up a bit is out in the country ( where you have 4+ miles between side roads ) or on the interstate ( and even then I go MAYBE 85-90 tops but that's in a 70 and usually only when I'm passing trucks that like to spit rocks at me ). __________________ What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie? You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now. What happened to then? We passed then. When? Just now. We're at now now. Go back to then. When? Now! Now? Now! I can't. Why? We missed it. When? Just now. When will then be now? Soon.

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