Helmets Yes or No?

[tlwisner]

Originally Posted by viper94bite

I like that! lol

It may have come across more harshly than I would've liked, but I strongly wish for all riders to avoid ruining their own lives and the lives of their loved ones because wearing a helmet was somehow not cool.

[TODD0341]

Sometimes I wear one- Sometimes I dont... I like not wearing one of course, but it feels unsafe of course so I have been wearing my full face alot lately. I have a half helmet- but its more for looks-- I think those things are a false sense of security.......besides-- arent like 19% of head injurys in the jaw area? Have you guys ever seen a picture of that guy who shot his jaw off? Just a tongue and upper teeth left and he is still alive!!! I dont want to end up like that.....so I wear it....

[Mavman]

I wear a fullface helmet!

I had a bought a fullface helmet when I owned my Katana......Bought/tried a half helmet when I purchased my cruiser-I wear glasses, didn't want to wear goggles...didn't like it, felt naked without more coverage, eye's watered, crap flew in my face...blah blah blah...went back to a full face and love it.

[S2Design]

I have never ridden without a helmet.

[Hardware]

I can't believe this topic still has to be discussed.

If you're ****ing dumb enough to believe the BS about being able to see and hear better without a lid and that this will enable you to better avoid a crash, then fill your boots - ride lidless. The world is too densely populated as it is and we need the truly stupid humans removed from the gene pool - hopefully before they procreate...

[Rickster]

Come on guys, no need to be insulting, I'm sure you are intelligent enough to figure out how to disagree without resorting to that (tlwisner, & viper94bite ).
It's a fact that people involved in accidents in cars, are more likely to suffer a head injury, than those on bikes. If you have an intelligent answer to that I would like to hear it.
I never said my M50 was safer than my V-Strom, if anything , the Strom is the safer of the two. It has better brakes, and tires. I have a tall enough windshield on my M50, that it keeps the wind out of my eyes. You are right though, I don't think it is cool on a cruser, but I also just don't like wearing a helmet, and I don't think it is less safe with out it.
Let's not fight, I'm looking for information. WHY NOT WEAR A HELMET IN A CAR? If it makes you safer on a bike, than is going to make you safer in your car.

[Trapper]

I think we should just wear helmets all the time, it's safer to walk down the street with a helmet on.

I think what you have to realize is that it is all relative to the degree of the accident. Chances are if you , say, hit the curb in your SUV, which is a fairly common occurance. Chances are you will not even break a sweat. Now the same situation on a bike could very likely cause injury. I guess the question is where is the line where the risks you take are unnecessary?

[Rickster]

Hay (Hardware) off topic question. Is it true, that in Tokyo, all the cars stop back from the stoplights, and let the bikes filter through them to the front?

[nhoel]

Well, for one thing... wearing a helmet in a car is far more dangerous than not. Hear me out first before you say the word "stupid" like someone I've seen in another thread. For one thing, your head clearance from the ceiling in a cage will most likely break your neck because the helmet will even further reduce the clearance in case you manage to land the car upside-down. (Unless, you have restraints like a 5 point seatbelt in race cars.) Second, it will be mighty uncomfortable and very distracting for a driver with the headrest and the helmet making contact. Third reason why I would not think wearing a helmet inside a cage is a good idea: the distance of the airbag to the very chin of your helmet is also reduced. This can also increase the posibility of breaking your neck.

My favorite reason of all: It's hard to kiss someone when you drop them off if you have a full face helmet on!!!

[Rickster]

Originally Posted by trappercase

I think we should just wear helmets all the time, it's safer to walk down the street with a helmet on.

I think what you have to realize is that it is all relative to the degree of the accident. Chances are if you , say, hit the curb in your SUV, which is a fairly common occurance. Chances are you will not even break a sweat. Now the same situation on a bike could very likely cause injury. I guess the question is where is the line where the risks you take are unnecessary?

That is a verry good point!

[Trapper]

One too many "chances are"

[QuacktheDuck]

Even if it wasn't law here, i'd still wear it. I don't know, but riding around even a parking lot with no helmet I feel so weird...like something is missing. My head may not have much within the ears but I'd like to protect what little I have.

[Hardware]

Originally Posted by Rickster

Hay (Hardware) off topic question. Is it true, that in Tokyo, all the cars stop back from the stoplights, and let the bikes filter through them to the front?

Not all, but a good portion.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Rickster

It's a fact that people involved in accidents in cars, are more likely to suffer a head injury, than those on bikes. If you have an intelligent answer to that I would like to hear it.

Here's my intelligent answer: You need to provide more information. Is that among those who sustained injury or all crash participants? Is that as a proportion of miles driven or of crashes per vehicle? See where I'm going? A single statistic isn't really useful without the contextual data.

I don't think I'm more likely to suffer a head injury in a car than I am on a bike without a helmet. I think your statistic is leaving out some relevant information.

[Rickster]

Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

Here's my intelligent answer: You need to provide more information. Is that among those who sustained injury or all crash participants? Is that as a proportion of miles driven or of crashes per vehicle? See where I'm going? A single statistic isn't really useful without the contextual data.

I don't think I'm more likely to suffer a head injury in a car than I am on a bike without a helmet. I think your statistic is leaving out some relevant information.

OK, here is my point, and I hear this from riders, and nonriders alike. Most pepole think that only a complet idiot would even think of getting on a murder-cycle without a helmet, and yet they don't even consider wearing one in a car. I guess it's just my pet peeve, but if i just mention wearing a helmet to a cager, all I hear is, it's to hot, or, it will mess up my hair, or I can't hear as well, or I can't see as well. Well gues what, all these things are true on a bike too, and the stats will bear me out on this, persentage wises, you are more likely to injure your head in a car crash than on a bike.
I'll get off my soap-box now, I guess I just wanted to make some noise. Thanks for being patient.

[Rickster]

Originally Posted by Hardware

Not all, but a good portion.

cool! Thanks

[jsvickers]

It's a fact that people involved in accidents in cars, are more likely to suffer a head injury, than those on bikes. If you have an intelligent answer to that I would like to hear it.

With absolutely no sources to back that statement up, it's not a fact.

What is a fact is that cat owners are 100 times more likely to suffer head injuries in a motorcycle accident as monkey owners. If you have an intelligent answer to that, I'd like to hear it...

[Scourge]

Originally Posted by Rickster

It's a fact that people involved in accidents in cars, are more likely to suffer a head injury, than those on bikes. If you have an intelligent answer to that I would like to hear it.
I.

When did that become a fact? This is news to me?

Upon further inpsection I see that this issure has already been covered.

[Scourge]

Originally Posted by trappercase

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I think what you have to realize is that it is all relative to the degree of the accident. Chances are if you , say, hit the curb in your SUV, which is a fairly common occurance. Chances are you will not even break a sweat. Now the same situation on a bike could very likely cause injury. I guess the question is where is the line where the risks you take are unnecessary?

I've got the broken ribs to make this one a fact too.

[bodie27]

I would love to ride with no helmut, jacket or boots. But I work in a hospital. Drop in some time to an orthopedic ward or a neurological ward. Watch the head injured patients having to be secured down because they would pull out their feeding tubes or IV lines. Come look at the xrays that show huge brain bleeds. Coning is a condition where the brain sinks down onto the spine and is slowly spiked by it..causes death. Drop into a rehab unit and meet some ex bikers with no shred of thought left.... and nobody gets better from these injuries. I been doing the job for 15 years and riding the for half that and it still gives me the heebie jeebies. And fellas, this is alot of very experienced bike riders I've met and looked after. The ones with hemuts were mostly ok (except for their shattered helmuts). Car accidents too but just has never been as many head injuries. I've seen all this with my own eyes and all I can say is go forth, don't wear a helmut but just really really be aware of the consequences.