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NCxM50 · 06-26-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Apertureguy

...while he was talented, I still remember he was also a twice accused child molester.

As a father it's hard not to feel that way.

It's a shame that in todays society, we forgive such things so easily if you've got a little fame under your belt. Not to mention the fact that on June 24th, he wasn't even a blip on the radar, no one was saying squat about him, 2 days later he's dead, and all the sudden everyone cares.

**Clint** · 06-26-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Apertureguy

...while he was talented, I still remember he was also a twice accused child molester.

As a father it's hard not to feel that way.

I won't often judge a man guilty if a jury won't.

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Originally Posted by NCxM50

Not to mention the fact that on June 24th, he wasn't even a blip on the radar, no one was saying squat about him, 2 days later he's dead, and all the sudden everyone cares.

His fans were saying plenty about him. He had a huge tour in the works. You can't assume that since your particular media selections didn't expose you to him that he was invisible.

Apertureguy · 06-26-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint

I won't often judge a man guilty if a jury won't.

While I view this as a somewhat sanctimonious statement...The good news is that no one has asked you to judge him...so you're all set.

GeorgiaRoller · 06-26-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint

I won't often judge a man guilty if a jury won't.

Long live O.J. then!

**Clint** · 06-26-2009, 01:46 PM

Wow. The gavel is out today! Michael Jackson's a molester because someone said so, and I'm sanctimonious. Ironnnnneeeeeee.

You see, to someone with good critical thinking skills, taking the headlines and applying them to another human being in a disparaging fashion is far more sanctimonious than giving him the benefit of the doubt. To imply that I'd defend him because I'm a devout fan is laughable on several levels. I simply don't turn on people over rumor.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't visit much anymore.

GeorgiaRoller · 06-26-2009, 02:01 PM

You know he did admit to having a "sleep over" and one of the boys in question did "sleep" in his bed with him. No grown man sleeps with little boys in his own bed. At a certain age you don't even let your own kids do that anymore, let alone somebody elses.

I always thought MJ was Asexual. But somehow he has three kids. Weird, wild stuff.

I admit I loved him in the 80's, not so much in the 90's, not really sure what he turned into the last 15years.

Talented, Strange, Rich, In Debt, Controversial, did I mention Strange.

Dude was a mixed bag of good/bad/stupid. There's lots of different takes on his life & career and all of them have some validity to them.

Apertureguy · 06-26-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint

Wow. The gavel is out today! Michael Jackson's a molester because someone said so, and I'm sanctimonious. Ironnnnneeeeeee.

You see, to someone with good critical thinking skills, taking the headlines and applying them to another human being in a disparaging fashion is far more sanctimonious than giving him the benefit of the doubt. To imply that I'd defend him because I'm a devout fan is laughable on several levels. I simply don't turn on people over rumor.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't visit much anymore.

Well...if you only had gotten your facts straight, perhaps you wouldn't have become confused. I never accused him of being a molester...I merely stated that I remembered he "WAS" twice accused. I never called him guilty or innocent, you came up with that on your own.

I stated a fact which is detailed in any number of the articles currently in print about him.

He Was Twice Accused, that still has not changed.

Perhaps your good critical thinking missed this detail?

But, thanks again for Judging what I wrote...As always, I appreciate your input.

aeagles · 06-26-2009, 03:07 PM

of course, only the *absolutely* innocent settle out of court for undisclosed amounts.

Porcelina Goddess · 06-26-2009, 03:38 PM

Oh whatever guys... please don't split hairs over stupid things like this. Ya, his later years were quite the controversy, and he may or may have done such-n-such. His "judgment" has come already, if you believe in that stuff, and it's really no longer our issue.

The guy was awesome in the 80's/90's (i liked him in the 90's GR lol), and that's how I'll remember him. It's up to you to either do the same, or let it all go.

Whoo-sahhhh.... keep it civil. He may have been huge, but he's not that big to get you all rowed up, right?

GeorgiaRoller · 06-26-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Porcelina Goddess

i liked him in the 90's GR lol

How many times did they play "The way you make me feel" on VH-1? Like 14,000,000,0000,000 times!!!

You know back when they actually played videos.

It's funny because about a year ago I showed my 10yr old (who had never seen MJ) some of his videos on youtube. He said "I know that song"..............."You mean he's a guy!?".........."I thought it was a girl singing those songs!" Got another comedian in the family I guess.

If you have a favorite MJ song what was it?

Mine was really never even popular. It's "Give in to me"......I think it's because of the Slash guitar solo in it. lol

YouTube - Michael Jackson - Give In To Me

Porcelina Goddess · 06-26-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaRoller

How many times did they play "The way you make me feel" on VH-1? Like 14,000,000,0000,000 times!!!

You know back when they actually played videos.

If you have a favorite MJ song what was it?

That's actually a great point. They played like 14 mil. times because he was THE singer of his time!!

ONE of my fav MJ songs is.... Thriller.

Nimbly · 06-26-2009, 05:31 PM

If MJ did what they said he did there is something wrong with those kid's parents. Someone molests my kid, he isn't going to be able to pay me off. (He may end up shot!) My old world values would demand justice. He was never convicted. I think if someone can pay you off after molesting your kid... your the sick one!

Nimbly · 06-26-2009, 05:31 PM

Oh, and my favorite song is the one from Free Willy.

omegajim · 06-26-2009, 06:40 PM

now they believe Michael may have been up to 400 million in debt.

Porcelina Goddess · 06-26-2009, 07:00 PM

Favorite song, omega!! You're not outta that one.

meredog44 · 06-27-2009, 11:33 AM

I wonder if Elvis was waiting for him at the golden gates ?

omegajim · 06-27-2009, 06:29 PM

naw, it wouldn't be elvis, it would be somebody of less stature in the music field.

such as Dean Martin.

Aussie Steve · 06-27-2009, 11:09 PM

Poor Dean...rumour had it that he was a drunk!....but who believes rumours hey?

meredog44 · 06-28-2009, 07:34 AM

????????? something tells me Elvis might want to have a chat with him.

frostbitevinnie · 06-28-2009, 11:01 AM

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06-26-2009, 01:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Clint Gainfully employed Join Date: Dec 2003 Bike: 2002 Bandit 1200 S Location: St. Cloud, MN, USA Posts: 20,118	Wow. The gavel is out today! Michael Jackson's a molester because someone said so, and I'm sanctimonious. Ironnnnneeeeeee. You see, to someone with good critical thinking skills, taking the headlines and applying them to another human being in a disparaging fashion is far more sanctimonious than giving him the benefit of the doubt. To imply that I'd defend him because I'm a devout fan is laughable on several levels. I simply don't turn on people over rumor. Thanks for reminding me why I don't visit much anymore. __________________ 'Busa shock, Racetech forks, Holeshot stage 1 & pipe, Hella headlights, CBRXX clipons, Givi bags, Zumo 550, Conti Road Attacks \| Symtec grip heat Arai Signet GTR \| Joe Rocket Meteor boots, Alter Ego pants, jacket \| Alpinestars SP-1 gloves \| Hanes boxer-briefs Gems for motorcyclists Last edited by Clint; 06-26-2009 at 01:56 PM.

06-26-2009, 02:01 PM	#26 (permalink)
GeorgiaRoller Leaned over, knee down Join Date: May 2008 Bike: Twisted 05 M-Fitty Location: Lurking in the shadows Posts: 4,648	You know he did admit to having a "sleep over" and one of the boys in question did "sleep" in his bed with him. No grown man sleeps with little boys in his own bed. At a certain age you don't even let your own kids do that anymore, let alone somebody elses. I always thought MJ was Asexual. But somehow he has three kids. Weird, wild stuff. I admit I loved him in the 80's, not so much in the 90's, not really sure what he turned into the last 15years. Talented, Strange, Rich, In Debt, Controversial, did I mention Strange. Dude was a mixed bag of good/bad/stupid. There's lots of different takes on his life & career and all of them have some validity to them. __________________ Subscribe to TVGeorgiaRoller on YouTube. Last edited by GeorgiaRoller; 06-26-2009 at 02:04 PM.

06-26-2009, 03:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
aeagles Puddle Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Bike: '08 Candy Apple Red Burgman 400 Location: near Intercourse, closer to Bird-in-Hand, SE PA Posts: 395	of course, only the absolutely innocent settle out of court for undisclosed amounts. __________________ Yes. It redlines @ 8500. Yes, it's a Scooter! The older I get, the better I was.

06-26-2009, 05:31 PM	#32 (permalink)
Nimbly Kickstand Operator Join Date: Mar 2009 Bike: CB350 Location: Southern Oregon Coast Posts: 289	If MJ did what they said he did there is something wrong with those kid's parents. Someone molests my kid, he isn't going to be able to pay me off. (He may end up shot!) My old world values would demand justice. He was never convicted. I think if someone can pay you off after molesting your kid... your the sick one! __________________ I would have said sorry for spilling gasoline all over him, except he burnt to death when I accidentally dropped my cigar on him.

06-26-2009, 05:31 PM	#33 (permalink)
Nimbly Kickstand Operator Join Date: Mar 2009 Bike: CB350 Location: Southern Oregon Coast Posts: 289	Oh, and my favorite song is the one from Free Willy. __________________ I would have said sorry for spilling gasoline all over him, except he burnt to death when I accidentally dropped my cigar on him.

06-26-2009, 03:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
Porcelina Goddess We're still thinking up a doozie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,372	Oh whatever guys... please don't split hairs over stupid things like this. Ya, his later years were quite the controversy, and he may or may have done such-n-such. His "judgment" has come already, if you believe in that stuff, and it's really no longer our issue. The guy was awesome in the 80's/90's (i liked him in the 90's GR lol), and that's how I'll remember him. It's up to you to either do the same, or let it all go. Whoo-sahhhh.... keep it civil. He may have been huge, but he's not that big to get you all rowed up, right?

06-26-2009, 06:40 PM	#34 (permalink)
omegajim M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: Jan 2007 Bike: 1980 Yamaha XS850 Location: Washington County, WI Posts: 10,405	now they believe Michael may have been up to 400 million in debt. __________________ "FREE TIBET!"* With purchase of one Tibet of equal or greater value. "I have a driver's license. It doesn't mean I show up at the Indy 500 with my morgan." Ducky- NCIS and until very recently, we were Wisconsin Tourism Federation ----- no really.

06-26-2009, 07:00 PM	#35 (permalink)
Porcelina Goddess We're still thinking up a doozie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,372	Favorite song, omega!! You're not outta that one.

06-27-2009, 11:33 AM	#36 (permalink)
meredog44 Seat Tester Join Date: Apr 2009 Bike: Suzuki Blvd Trike Location: Nashville Michigan Posts: 57	I wonder if Elvis was waiting for him at the golden gates ? __________________ 2005 Boulevard Lehman Trike http://www.buggy.com

06-27-2009, 06:29 PM	#37 (permalink)
omegajim M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: Jan 2007 Bike: 1980 Yamaha XS850 Location: Washington County, WI Posts: 10,405	naw, it wouldn't be elvis, it would be somebody of less stature in the music field. such as Dean Martin. __________________ "FREE TIBET!"* With purchase of one Tibet of equal or greater value. "I have a driver's license. It doesn't mean I show up at the Indy 500 with my morgan." Ducky- NCIS and until very recently, we were Wisconsin Tourism Federation ----- no really.

06-27-2009, 11:09 PM	#38 (permalink)
Aussie Steve In The Zone Join Date: Jan 2007 Bike: 02 1200 Bandit Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,776	Poor Dean...rumour had it that he was a drunk!....but who believes rumours hey? __________________ Just remember you ARE entitled to my opinion!!!!

06-28-2009, 07:34 AM	#39 (permalink)
meredog44 Seat Tester Join Date: Apr 2009 Bike: Suzuki Blvd Trike Location: Nashville Michigan Posts: 57	????????? something tells me Elvis might want to have a chat with him. __________________ 2005 Boulevard Lehman Trike http://www.buggy.com

06-28-2009, 11:01 AM	#40 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie Forensic Bug Splatter Analyst Join Date: Jul 2007 Bike: '07 C90T, '76 MT250, smashed up '91 GSX1100g Location: St. Cloud, MN 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 4,154	........................ __________________ Sam 3/7/09 Rest in peace my good friend. Last edited by frostbitevinnie; 06-28-2009 at 12:53 PM.

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