Snell Helmets vs Dot vs Snell/Dot?

[GABRIEL]

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...helmet_review/ After reading this article I am convinced that the $500.00 shoei and Arai Helmets arent offering more protection than your $200.00 scorpian or HJC helmets also that Snell arent the Golden Seal of protection like I thought they were. Wow this article really blew my mind great read regarding OUR safety.

[Pinhy]

yeah ive read about that before.



on a related note:

i was very surprised that some riders in states that have a helmet law, actually only wear skid lids and not DOT certified ones. is that all the law requires? or are DOT required, but the skids keep the cops away?

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[inspiron]

Over here, there is only one standard: ECE 22-05. I believe that ECE 22-05 certification is a bit more "realistic" than SNELL testing, as it measures how well the helmet protects the contents (your head) instead of testing multiple-impact resistance like SNELL does.

[GABRIEL]

Originally Posted by Pinhy

yeah ive read about that before.



on a related note:

i was very surprised that some riders in states that have a helmet law, actually only wear skid lids and not DOT certified ones. is that all the law requires? or are DOT required, but the skids keep the cops away?

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I know extactly what you are talking about here in Washington D.C. the police dont care if your helmet is Dot, Snell or made of Plastic Wrap they just want you to have something that resembles a Helmet. Hell Cops dont care if you are wearing a Helmet made for Dirt Bikes just as long as its an helmet. INSPIRON the new helmet you got i read it kicked a$$ american and asian alike thus proving that euro production is better, it also got high praise for being well vented how can I purchase a euro helmet???? Arai isnt nothing but a name and snell is a snell riders really need to do there research instead of just going off of looks and feel and get down to whether that helmet will really protect your precious brain.

[stp1971]

In Georgia the law reads a helmet is required. Doesn't state what type of helmet other than it is required.

[inspiron]

Yes, the Schuberth S1 is ECE 22-05 certified.

[stp1971]

Well I still like my Shoei RF-1000 helmet. It is a heck alot better than my HJC. The visor has pretty good detents so it WILL stay in the position you want it no matter what. Stupid HJC of mine flops open or closed if you ain't careful.

[Louis]

Check the following thread:

http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/fo...ead.php?t=7175

[GABRIEL]

Originally Posted by stp1971

Well I still like my Shoei RF-1000 helmet. It is a heck alot better than my HJC. The visor has pretty good detents so it WILL stay in the position you want it no matter what. Stupid HJC of mine flops open or closed if you ain't careful.

I can totally understand why most riders go with features, comfort and fuctions of a helmet but dont you care about actual protection in case of a crash?, this thread was created to inform others about the more expensive and more feature helmets may not offer any more protection than your 89 dollar helmet they just have that shiney SNELL sticker and a pretty promise of fiber glass that actually doesnt absord as much impact as previously thought. Its our heads so its up to you want you chose to protect it but just because the grass seem greenier on the other side doesnt mean it is. I love research and I love a great discussion thats why I wanted riders input on this subject so please dont stop lets here what you all have to say even if its I LOVE MY ARAI BABY let the Snell vs Dot battle begin

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by stp1971

In Georgia the law reads a helmet is required. Doesn't state what type of helmet other than it is required.

The only thing I can find in the law book is:

40-6-315 OCGA States:

No person shall operate or ride upon a motorcycle unless he or she is wearing protective headgear which complies with standards established by the commissioner of motor vehicle safety.

Just a little vague.

[Smurf]

This is how people get away with wearing those skid lids in Georgia.

[blackie1491]

Here in B.C., the helmet is required to be DOT approved and it is against the law to sell helmets thst are not DOT approved. If you walked into a Harley shop they would sell you a beany from the backroom for $89 and that waht it was, a little shell with straps. Now they advertise the damn things and they are useless.

The Police would check sometimes during road check points but I have not heard of that being done for years. The police are too busy to do things like that.

But I look at the $20,000 bike and the cheap helmet and then think if that is how they value their head that is their choice.

I have been down and my helmet did it's job. Best money I spent.

[GABRIEL]

But reading that article it seemed as if Snell Foundation were not playing fair or stating legit facts, are those expensive shoei and arai helmets really that much better in terms of protection or are you just paying for more vents better visors and style?? Plastic vs Fiber Glass which absorbs more impact?

[inspiron]

With Shoei, Arai, Schuberth, BMW, etc, you are paying for
- the name
- the research & development
- the high-tech materials
- the light weight
- the good noise reduction

HJC and other "low-end" helmets use "older" technology (fiberglass instead of carbon fiber, etc.) and tend to be heavier and usually more noisy. The will satisfy the DOT and SNELL (or ECE 22.05) requirements, and are still safe.

The main difference between these market segments will be felt as rider comfort and less fatigue after a long ride.

[GABRIEL]

Originally Posted by inspiron

With Shoei, Arai, Schuberth, BMW, etc, you are paying for
- the name
- the research & development
- the high-tech materials
- the light weight
- the good noise reduction

HJC and other "low-end" helmets use "older" technology (fiberglass instead of carbon fiber, etc.) and tend to be heavier and usually more noisy. The will satisfy the DOT and SNELL (or ECE 22.05) requirements, and are still safe.

The main difference between these market segments will be felt as rider comfort and less fatigue after a long ride.

Actually some Arai Helmets are made of Fiber Glass also scorpian helmets which are low end use Fiber Glass on there EXO-700 models. I believe there is an element to all helmets including wind noice once you approach a certain speed, I am convinved that ppl pay for the name and features of the helmet such as 1 click visor gap(even though its supposed to be closed) and better ventalation.

[D_Klein]

Hey, if it gives you peace of mind to have the extra approval... nothing wrong with that.