Any of you guys hunt birds? - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

**Trapper** · 06-14-2006, 11:00 AM

Just wondering. I started a new website on the subject. You like? If anyone's interested in writing an article let me know.

http://www.pointflushretrieve.com/

**Louis** · 06-14-2006, 11:03 AM

Some good tips on puppy training too!

Nice site Kev!

sunny · 06-14-2006, 11:11 AM

the only tips i can offer concern the removal of shot before frying... try to get ALL of them.

**Trapper** · 06-14-2006, 11:17 AM

Yeah, not only is it bad for dental work, but ingesting lead has its drawbacks.

viper94bite · 06-14-2006, 11:25 AM

turkeys are easier to hit with a motorcycle!

**intimid8er** · 06-14-2006, 11:37 AM

Louis, good comment on the training part.

I don't know squat about training for hunting, but I'd like to think I'm pretty good at behavior training.

Eye contact is big.

If you have an opportunity, watch the pups with it's mates. Watch and see how they play their domination games. You'll gain valuable clues that you can use in your training to help discipline the pup.

My bigger mutt (have no idea what she is, strong terrier (pit-bull) influence, would play with her siblings, and when one would dominate, it would simply accomplish this by resting it's paw on the nape of the other's neck. This would cause the other to readily submit. I used this cue with her, and it was like magic. During her formative months, if she misbehaved, or was doing something that wasn't acceptable, simply resting my mitt on her neck, and firmly telling her no while looking her in the eye would do the trick.

However, that trick would not work on my wife's headstrong Dachshund. I found a simple "scruffing" on the nape worked well with her. Scruffing, is not quite twisting. Merely, correcting the pup the same way it's mother would. Collect the loose skin behind the neck, and lift the pup up gently, and just so it's rear paws come off the ground the way it's mother would carry it, tell it no, and put it back down. They don't understand English, but they associate no with something they don't want to do to displease you. The "scruffing" is a language they speak. They come right back in line, and there is no fear response towards the human. A lot of canine discipline in the past was based on fear inducing tactics, hitting, holding the dog down on it's back, all sorts of weird stuff. They did nothing, but cause the dog to cower if you expressed displeasure with what it has done.

S2Design · 06-14-2006, 11:55 AM

Great site Trapper. I hunted quail as a kid with my dad. A good bird dog is an absolute joy watch. I found that type of hunting a lot more exciting than larger game. I hope to get back into it soon.

Good post Tim. I will add that I have had luck with similar methods but completely holding the puppy down and keeping my body over it the whole time. Also, letting out a guttural growl if the puppy is doing something wrong will instill right from wrong at early age.

**Clint** · 06-14-2006, 01:15 PM

I hunt pheasant, ducks and grouse, but I can't be bothered to learn anything more about it.

sunny · 06-14-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RowdyRed94

I hunt pheasant, ducks and grouse, but I can't be bothered to learn anything more about it.

what? no quail???

**Clint** · 06-14-2006, 03:34 PM

Quail? Why would I kill something that tiny? Perhaps I should 12-gauge some butterflies while I'm at it?

sunny · 06-14-2006, 03:36 PM

quail are good to eat.

small like chicken wings only better.

bajaraider · 06-14-2006, 03:49 PM

I love quail and phesant! Never hunted big game. For quail you can always go with a 20 guage. Makes it more of a challenge.

Oh ya love the site. I forwarded it to my hunting buds.

**intimid8er** · 06-14-2006, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2Design

Also, letting out a guttural growl if the puppy is doing something wrong will instill right from wrong at early age.

It may sound stupid to those that don't know, but yes it works!

You're speaking a language they understand, and it goes a long way in their minds.

stp1971 · 06-14-2006, 04:43 PM

Ohh,,,,, it is soooo hard to type from the floor I have been rolling in!!!! To picture Tim sitting there grunting and growling at his dogs. A beer in one hand and a splatula in the other!!!!! the whole time looking at Fido and making the noises that Tim the ToolMan taylor makes off of "Home Improvement"!!!!!

Oh Tim,,, you got me on that one,, totally blindsided me!!!!

**intimid8er** · 06-14-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Ohh,,,,, it is soooo hard to type from the floor I have been rolling in!!!! To picture Tim sitting there grunting and growling at his dogs. A beer in one hand and a splatula in the other!!!!! the whole time looking at Fido and making the noises that Tim the ToolMan taylor makes off of "Home Improvement"!!!!!

Oh Tim,,, you got me on that one,, totally blindsided me!!!!

(Bows) At your service sir!!

blackie1491 · 06-14-2006, 05:12 PM

blackie1491 · 06-14-2006, 05:14 PM

If Doug see's this, Tim will be hearing about it for a month of Sunday's.

S2Design · 06-14-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Ohh,,,,, it is soooo hard to type from the floor I have been rolling in!!!! To picture Tim sitting there grunting and growling at his dogs. A beer in one hand and a splatula in the other!!!!! the whole time looking at Fido and making the noises that Tim the ToolMan taylor makes off of "Home Improvement"!!!!!

Oh Tim,,, you got me on that one,, totally blindsided me!!!!

Let's not forget the flames.

lil_lissa · 06-14-2006, 09:38 PM

thats horrible! i have a pet parrot and i don't like people who kill them!

Pinhy · 06-14-2006, 09:51 PM

parrot is a little tough....have to season it well and not cook it too long....takes some practice, but only took me 3 or 4 tries

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06-14-2006, 11:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Trapper Dogs Best Friend(admin) Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: SOLD Location: Moncton NB Canada Posts: 9,185	Any of you guys hunt birds? Just wondering. I started a new website on the subject. You like? If anyone's interested in writing an article let me know. http://www.pointflushretrieve.com/ __________________ PointFlushRetrieve.com - Bird Dog Blog Motorcycle-Journal.com Blog

06-14-2006, 11:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
Louis Administrator Joined: Sep 2003 Bike: SV650S '05 (Blue) Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada Posts: 10,657	Some good tips on puppy training too! Nice site Kev! __________________ Louis

06-14-2006, 11:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
sunny Leaned over, knee down Joined: Nov 2004 Bike: '97 suzuki savage, '90 honda shadow, '75 kh400, and a broom Location: fort worthless Posts: 4,678	the only tips i can offer concern the removal of shot before frying... try to get ALL of them. __________________ "blah blah blah, the world revolves around me, blah blah blah, your perception of events can't possibly be valid, blah blah blah, i wasn't there but i know everything about everything, blah blah blah." - 95% of the male population. you WISH this post was brought to you by rum.

06-14-2006, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Trapper Dogs Best Friend(admin) Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: SOLD Location: Moncton NB Canada Posts: 9,185	Yeah, not only is it bad for dental work, but ingesting lead has its drawbacks. __________________ PointFlushRetrieve.com - Bird Dog Blog Motorcycle-Journal.com Blog

06-14-2006, 11:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
viper94bite Sit speling cheker Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2008 Yamaha FZ6 Location: omaha, ne Posts: 1,792	turkeys are easier to hit with a motorcycle! __________________ *yippee*

06-14-2006, 11:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 30 41'47.99" N 83 11'26.54" W Hold My Beer Posts: 10,075	Louis, good comment on the training part. I don't know squat about training for hunting, but I'd like to think I'm pretty good at behavior training. Eye contact is big. If you have an opportunity, watch the pups with it's mates. Watch and see how they play their domination games. You'll gain valuable clues that you can use in your training to help discipline the pup. My bigger mutt (have no idea what she is, strong terrier (pit-bull) influence, would play with her siblings, and when one would dominate, it would simply accomplish this by resting it's paw on the nape of the other's neck. This would cause the other to readily submit. I used this cue with her, and it was like magic. During her formative months, if she misbehaved, or was doing something that wasn't acceptable, simply resting my mitt on her neck, and firmly telling her no while looking her in the eye would do the trick. However, that trick would not work on my wife's headstrong Dachshund. I found a simple "scruffing" on the nape worked well with her. Scruffing, is not quite twisting. Merely, correcting the pup the same way it's mother would. Collect the loose skin behind the neck, and lift the pup up gently, and just so it's rear paws come off the ground the way it's mother would carry it, tell it no, and put it back down. They don't understand English, but they associate no with something they don't want to do to displease you. The "scruffing" is a language they speak. They come right back in line, and there is no fear response towards the human. A lot of canine discipline in the past was based on fear inducing tactics, hitting, holding the dog down on it's back, all sorts of weird stuff. They did nothing, but cause the dog to cower if you expressed displeasure with what it has done. __________________ Song Pick of the Week 11/26 The Boss - Johnny 99 I had no idea 20% ABV beer could get me drunk so fast!

06-14-2006, 11:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
S2Design Member Investigator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: '03 Santa Cruz Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,022	Great site Trapper. I hunted quail as a kid with my dad. A good bird dog is an absolute joy watch. I found that type of hunting a lot more exciting than larger game. I hope to get back into it soon. Good post Tim. I will add that I have had luck with similar methods but completely holding the puppy down and keeping my body over it the whole time. Also, letting out a guttural growl if the puppy is doing something wrong will instill right from wrong at early age. __________________ "In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends." John Churton Collins

06-14-2006, 03:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
sunny Leaned over, knee down Joined: Nov 2004 Bike: '97 suzuki savage, '90 honda shadow, '75 kh400, and a broom Location: fort worthless Posts: 4,678	quail are good to eat. small like chicken wings only better. __________________ "blah blah blah, the world revolves around me, blah blah blah, your perception of events can't possibly be valid, blah blah blah, i wasn't there but i know everything about everything, blah blah blah." - 95% of the male population. you WISH this post was brought to you by rum.

06-14-2006, 03:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
bajaraider U.B's LoveChild Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2005 M50, 1970 TC120 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 1,036	I love quail and phesant! Never hunted big game. For quail you can always go with a 20 guage. Makes it more of a challenge. Oh ya love the site. I forwarded it to my hunting buds. __________________ RED M50 - 2005 "only a motorcycle rider understands why a dog hangs its head out the window" My Toys

06-14-2006, 04:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,833	Ohh,,,,, it is soooo hard to type from the floor I have been rolling in!!!! To picture Tim sitting there grunting and growling at his dogs. A beer in one hand and a splatula in the other!!!!! the whole time looking at Fido and making the noises that Tim the ToolMan taylor makes off of "Home Improvement"!!!!! Oh Tim,,, you got me on that one,, totally blindsided me!!!! __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

06-14-2006, 05:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
blackie1491 I took the All Bran Challenge Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: C50SE Location: Aldergrove, B.C., Canada Posts: 7,326

06-14-2006, 05:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
blackie1491 I took the All Bran Challenge Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: C50SE Location: Aldergrove, B.C., Canada Posts: 7,326	If Doug see's this, Tim will be hearing about it for a month of Sunday's.

06-14-2006, 09:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
lil_lissa Seat Tester Joined: May 2006 Bike: is coming soon!! Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 88	thats horrible! i have a pet parrot and i don't like people who kill them! __________________ Melissa \| 2004 Suzuki GS500f

06-14-2006, 09:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	parrot is a little tough....have to season it well and not cook it too long....takes some practice, but only took me 3 or 4 tries .

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