Bumper stickers

[LayinLo]

Here's some funny bumper stickers...

[inspiron]

Okay, can one of you explain this to me...?

The US Marines are part of the Navy? I always thought that there are 4 main "units" : Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. If the Marines belong to the Navy, there are only three "units"? Or does the Air Force belong to the Army, since it started out as the Army Air Corps?

And do the active units even "notice" the National Guard or Coast Guard? Or are those not even worth mentioning?

(Please don't flame me - I really would like to know the answer here).

[rogerthat]

Originally Posted by inspiron

Okay, can one of you explain this to me...?

The US Marines are part of the Navy? I always thought that there are 4 main "units" : Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. If the Marines belong to the Navy, there are only three "units"? Or does the Air Force belong to the Army, since it started out as the Army Air Corps?

And do the active units even "notice" the National Guard or Coast Guard? Or are those not even worth mentioning?

(Please don't flame me - I really would like to know the answer here).

my sister is going to join the national guard fer michigan. and yes, the marines are a department of the navy. yes, i know, pretty sad in a way, but hey! they are %%%%%%.

[DocBooty]

Originally Posted by inspiron

Okay, can one of you explain this to me...?

The US Marines are part of the Navy? I always thought that there are 4 main "units" : Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. If the Marines belong to the Navy, there are only three "units"? Or does the Air Force belong to the Army, since it started out as the Army Air Corps?

And do the active units even "notice" the National Guard or Coast Guard? Or are those not even worth mentioning?

(Please don't flame me - I really would like to know the answer here).

Well... The national guard belongs to the army... So you've got The army, air force, Navy (marines included) and the coasties

[c50tiger]

Technically, there are seven branches of the United States Uniformed Services.

The Marines are under the Department of the Navy, but they are not part of the US Navy. Fine distinction, there. The Marine Corp has a reserve component, as well. The United States Marine have never resorted to a full-scale retreat (The Frozen Chosin in 1951 was a fighting withdrawal and advance to the rear).

Army has three components: Active, Reserve, and Nat'l Guard.

Air Force similarly has Active, Reserve and Nat'l Guard components. Air Force was the Army Air Corp, and the Navy also had the Naval Air Corp. Navy kept their aircraft, but the Army lost theirs to the Air Force. Until some wonk decided that the Air Force had a market on fixed wing only, and helicopters were rotary wing, and just like that they were back in the flyin' business again. (Yes, that's a gross simplification).

The Coasties originated under the Department of Treasury, subsequently moved to Department of Transportation, and were put under the Dept. of Homeland Security in 2003. The Coast Guard reverts to the Dept. of Defense in time of war as the 1st Fleet (Dept. of Navy starts with 2nd Fleet).

The Public Health Service Commissioned Corp was begun in the late 1880's as the Marine Health Service. Uniforms are similar to the Navy (with special insignia), and officers hold similar ranks. Wanna know what they do? Look it up

Smallest of the seven is the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Corps. Like the PHS, uniforms and ranks follow Navy protocol. This service dates, and their commissioning of officers, dates back to Thomas Jefferson (at the time it was the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey), was so that, if the were surveying battlefields, under rules of war they could not be shot as spies.

Aren't you glad you asked?

[Louis]

Wow, it's been a while since we had such an informative post!

[DocBooty]

Originally Posted by c50tiger

The Marines are under the Department of the Navy, but they are not part of the US Navy. Fine distinction, there. The Marine Corp has a reserve component, as well. The United States Marine have never resorted to a full-scale retreat (The Frozen Chosin in 1951 was a fighting withdrawal and advance to the rear).

They did retreat from Falluja...Then they went back in...Had their asses handed to them again...and once again left...True that the government said they needed to pull out.... because they had to fight with their hands tied behind their backs, blindfolded, in a wheelchair going up some stairs, at night, with barking dogs...But they are marines, adapt and over come right???

[LayinLo]

Originally Posted by DocBooty

They did retreat from Falluja...Then they went back in...Had their asses handed to them again...and once again left...True that the government said they needed to pull out.... because they had to fight with their hands tied behind their backs, blindfolded, in a wheelchair going up some stairs, at night, with barking dogs...But they are marines, adapt and over come right???

c50tiger: Great post, I couldn't have said it much better.
A little more clarification: the national guard not only pledge their allegiance to the federal government, they also answer on a state level.


As for DocBooty's misguided comment, don't get me started. We go over and conquer(we are a conquering force), you guys are supposed to be an occupying force (you stay behind and maintain the peace). You guys did not do this in Iraq and thats why they keep having to send us (MARINES) back in to clean up where you guys got slack! I don't need to give examples do I? (see Jessica Lynch) Why did we have army soldiers asking us to leave our U.S.M.C. flags up when we left? The Iraqi people knew we were Marines when they saw our uniforms, the locals even told us that they said to each other, "Do not mess with them, they are serious."

I could go on with this forever.

As for the Chosin Reservoir: General Smith (commanding officer of the 1st Marine Division) said, "We are not retreating, we are fighting in a different direction." Colonel Chesty Puller was awarded his fifth Navy Cross there. The Army, in such a haste to retreat, left behind men and equipment. The Marines picked up the Army stragglers and equipment and brought them to sea. Later the Army Chief of staff phoned the commandant of the Marine Corps requesting the retrun of their equipment. It is said that the commandant calmy replied, "what equipment?"
The only reason the Marines even turned to fight that direction was because the Army units on the Marine's left side were outflanked. The Marines then turned and fought their way 70 miles back down to sea!

[rogerthat]

Originally Posted by LayinLo_usmc

c50tiger: Great post, I couldn't have said it much better.
A little more clarification: the national guard not only pledge their allegiance to the federal government, they also answer on a state level.


As for DocBooty's misguided comment, don't get me started. We go over and conquer(we are a conquering force), you guys are supposed to be an occupying force (you stay behind and maintain the peace). You guys did not do this in Iraq and thats why they keep having to send us (MARINES) back in to clean up where you guys got slack! I don't need to give examples do I? (see Jessica Lynch) Why did we have army soldiers asking us to leave our U.S.M.C. flags up when we left? The Iraqi people knew we were Marines when they saw our uniforms, the locals even told us that they said to each other, "Do not mess with them, they are serious."

I could go on with this forever.

As for the Chosin Reservoir: General Smith (commanding officer of the 1st Marine Division) said, "We are not retreating, we are fighting in a different direction." Colonel Chesty Puller was awarded his fifth Navy Cross there. The Army, in such a haste to retreat, left behind men and equipment. The Marines picked up the Army stragglers and equipment and brought them to sea. Later the Army Chief of staff phoned the commandant of the Marine Corps requesting the retrun of their equipment. It is said that the commandant calmy replied, "what equipment?"
The only reason the Marines even turned to fight that direction was because the Army units on the Marine's left side were outflanked. The Marines then turned and fought their way 70 miles back down to sea!

And THATS why im gonna be a marine.

[DocBooty]

Originally Posted by LayinLo_usmc

As for DocBooty's misguided comment, don't get me started. We go over and conquer(we are a conquering force), you guys are supposed to be an occupying force (you stay behind and maintain the peace). You guys did not do this in Iraq and thats why they keep having to send us (MARINES) back in to clean up where you guys got slack! I don't need to give examples do I? (see Jessica Lynch) Why did we have army soldiers asking us to leave our U.S.M.C. flags up when we left? The Iraqi people knew we were Marines when they saw our uniforms, the locals even told us that they said to each other, "Do not mess with them, they are serious."

You missed the ending...I was explaning why it went down the way it went down... But that is cool...But if U were all %%%%%% as u say u were then why are they blasting the crap out of the bases in anbar province, Najaf, Sumarra, Fallujah etc... Truth be told they dont really care what branch u are in, they want to kill u. As for jessica lynch...Dont get me started on her...But I do distinctly remember so marine lance corporal getting "taken hostage" and winding up in the us embassy in what was it Lebanon??? Hmmm.... Granted we did have some silly Fu@#er try to sell secrets to the insurgents (who were actually undercover cid) but I digress... My end point is this. Iraq is a crazy stupid place I'd rather forget about...All this sword fighting about what branch is most %%%%%% is stupid. we all wear the american flags on our shoulders, we all bear the burden of the USA on our backs. We are all their as one to finish a job that seems almost impossible to finish. We all work for the same boss and the same corporation (America)

[LayinLo]

You jabbed first. I defended.

Yes, there was a LCpl who was "captured" but there is some problems I have with him and the whole incident. We will leave Ms. Lynch alone and her whole entourage because it will do nothing for your arguement.

I never stated that I was %%%%%%. Truth be known, we do more with less.

True they do wanna kill all of us, but they do make a distinction. No we do not all wear the American flags on our shoulders. We wear ours in our hearts.

I was not trying to offend you with my post. Only to set the record straight. I have nothing but respect for every branch. We are are all parts to a "machine." We all have different jobs to do for one central purpose.

[LayinLo]

To add to my last post:

I also consider myself very lucky to be able to serve my country. I would recommend most able bodied highschool grads (especially males) give at least 4 years to some branch. We are so lucky to have the freedoms we have.




***Note: that was not a sexist comment, just that serving may help some of our "young men" actually grow up!***