suzuki gt200 x5 not starting

[chrissssssssssssy]

Hiya all , my dad has got a suzuki gt200 2stroke had it about 3weeks now , last week he went to open it up at 50mph and it just died and wouldnt start, he has checked the carbs and they are fine letting enough fuel through there is also good spark from the spark plugs , and the pistons are in good shape and rings, and it just will not start ! we have even tryed pushing it and puttin it in to gear it just doesnt want to know, it kicks over but just doesnt want to start any one got any ideas why and what he could do?

[mtalicarox]

What he could do - take it to a shop

[Clint]

Welcome, Chris. Will it fire at all? You say it's got spark, compression, and fuel, but something must be missing. We have some good mechanics here, so maybe we can help.

[chrissssssssssssy]

thanks for the welcome , when we first kick it over like the day after it kinder sounds like it may start but after one kick it just kicking over and doesnt sound like it even wants to fire up, also when push it sometimes it the exhaust pops and trys to start but just doesnt , i no every thing seems fine everything working but it just doesnt start so there must be something wrong just need more ideas ,
thanks chris

[DerryUK]

chrissssssssssssy,

With all that kicking and pushing and not starting the plugs should look wet when you take them out, do they? If they do it means you have fuel getting through.

To me it sounds like you have no sparks, you may have one at the plug resting on the fins but when under pressure a weak spark won't jump the gap.

I'll see if I can find a circuit diagram for an X5 and have a look. BTW I used to own an X7; nice bike but ate pistons.

Derry.

[chrissssssssssssy]

Originally Posted by DerryUK

chrissssssssssssy,

With all that kicking and pushing and not starting the plugs should look wet when you take them out, do they? If they do it means you have fuel getting through.

To me it sounds like you have no sparks, you may have one at the plug resting on the fins but when under pressure a weak spark won't jump the gap.

I'll see if I can find a circuit diagram for an X5 and have a look. BTW I used to own an X7; nice bike but ate pistons.

Derry.

hiya derry , thanks for your reply
ii when his x5 was running it was a nice bike nippy little thing, would own my sisters fiat punto 1.2 sport but only top out at 75mph would get there fast though he was going to change the sprokets untill it died how fast the X7 go?


there is spark in both plugs and yup the plugs are wet getting petrol ,

sadly my dad hasnt got the time to just have it sat there and is desiding to sell it and just get another bike next summer so it up for sale on ebay il post link if any one intrested in the sales bit

[Aussie Steve]

Before you go seling it I would take off the exhaust and clean around the exhaust port...even try running without a muffler for a short time. Two strokes are well known for clogging their exhaust ports and mufflers with carbon and a bike of that vintage probably is full of it. I remeber the x7s and they were one of the fastest 250cc bikes on the road at the time. You may end up regretting selling it.

[2005GZ250]

Check the point gap and then the timing, also try some new plugs. The plugs may be fouled out.

[chrissssssssssssy]

Hiy the spark plugs were only 2weeks old and we did swap just incase and still no look, il tell my dad about what you said with the timing , not sure what you mean the point gap il tell my dad he may no what you on bout thanks alot and he was going to sell it like next month any ways as he only wanted a bike for summer and i supose to comeout with me , thanks your replys ,
chris

[DerryUK]

Looking at the circuit diagram it could be one of three things, but I reckon it would be worth disconnecting and reconnecting the plugs and sockets between the generator and the coil pack. Just in case it is a tired old connector.

If that doesn't work it looks like it will be the generator, the CDI or the coils.

Derry.