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MD-M50 · 07-11-2005, 12:31 AM

Hello all, have been riding for a year now and have 10k miles under my belt. Have done pretty much all my learning on my own. Like to continue to sharpen my skills but reading only takes you so far. Would like to know if anyone knows of an instructional DVD I can order that teaches interm/advanced riding, especially evasive manuevers, etc. Feel like if I could see someone doing it would be much better than reading. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Cruise2Live · 07-11-2005, 02:34 AM

Take the Abate/MSF [whatever it's called in your area] basic/beginning rider course!

When I took it, I was the only one there with zero riding experience (felt pretty stupid most of the time). But all the so-called experienced riders (riding a few months to a few years - mostly unlicensed) reported that they learned SO MUCH from taking the course that they never would have picked up on their own. It's definitely not just for beginners.

After you take that, if you still crave riding knowledge sign up for either the dirtbike course or the advanced rider course.

So you know, there are usually beaucoup benefits that you get for taking the course, including - first and foremost - learning how to not die while riding your motorcycle; then minor things like reduced insurance rates, bike-shop discounts, and waived or radically reduced MC licensure requirements.

Taking the course is a flat-out no-brainer.

Pinhy · 07-11-2005, 10:37 AM

i agree with 2live here mostly...but if you ahve 10k miles of experience eventhough you might go "oh i never knew that" to one or two things in the beginner course, i would recommend the ERC (experienced rider course) offered by the same people (again whoever in your area). you ride your own bike rather than the little 250's and 125's they have and you will still pick up on many of the basics they teach.

my friends and i took the basic when we first started riding. i am thinking about taking the ERC in the fall when it is a little cooler here, to help refresh my skills and get more practice in.

**intimid8er** · 07-11-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinhy

i am thinking about taking the ERC in the fall when it is a little cooler here, to help refresh my skills and get more practice in.

Same here....couldn't imagine taking that sumb!tch right now!!

Pinhy · 07-11-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by intimid8er

Same here....couldn't imagine taking that sumb!tch right now!!

maybe we could schedule the same class? we took our beginner at Armwood High school and i liked the instructors. they run the ERC also i believe.

lets talk about it in a couple months.

cjjtulsa · 07-11-2005, 04:54 PM

Don't know the truth of it, but I understand that ERC is pretty difficult. I work with a Harley guy who took it and said there was more than one bike carted off in bad shape. And they have medical personel waiting to sew up the ones who go down. He said one guy showed up on a brand new Honda VTX; it left a totaled pile in the back of a truck. He said he went through some pretty hairy slalom manuevers one day, the next day he did them again - with the aid of a firehose on the pavement. He's been riding 30 years and said he broke a sweat more than once. If he's not bullsh*tting, I'd be worried about tearing my stuff up - me and my bike can get busted up plenty well by accident without someone trying to wrinkle things up. I'd like to take the basic though. I'm sure I have tons to learn.

Pinhy · 07-11-2005, 04:59 PM

wow...that sounds pretty rough. i didnt get that opinion when the instructors were explaining it to us. and they said it is very elective, so anything you dont want to do you dont have to (unlike the beginners course where we had to in order to get license certificate).

i agreee, no way to i want to drop the bike (dont care about me, i'll heal free, the bike will be $$). haha

funny you say a VTX...my best friend has a 1300 and he is one who would do it with me. other riding buddies have Vulcan 1500 and a Vulcan 750. i think the smaller lighter bikes would be easier in a course like that rather than the heavier ones.

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cjjtulsa · 07-11-2005, 06:30 PM

Like I said, this guy may be blowing smoke too. He said it was a VTX 1800 that crashed.

stock28 · 07-11-2005, 07:36 PM

I just read in a review somewhere on the web that half the people in a class drop their bike at least once. Would be good training, but I don't really want to leave with a damaged bike.

Pinhy · 07-12-2005, 11:19 AM

hell no! might have to get the old '81 gs650 fired up again for that! im NOT NOT NOT putting myself in a position to drop my brand new (4200 miles) baby!

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tlwisner · 07-12-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cjjtulsa

Don't know the truth of it, but I understand that ERC is pretty difficult.

The ERC is basically the last part of the BRC (not the duck walking, etc) done on your own bike. I suspect the tales of carnage are a bit overblown. A few people did dump bikes at the BRC, at about 0 - 2 mph, and they had mostly never ridden a motorcycle before that day.

I'll find out first hand in a couple weeks. People I know that have taken the ERC say that it is enjoyable.

http://www.msf-usa.org/

07-11-2005, 12:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
MD-M50 Where Am I ? Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Location: Maryland Posts: 25	Training Video Hello all, have been riding for a year now and have 10k miles under my belt. Have done pretty much all my learning on my own. Like to continue to sharpen my skills but reading only takes you so far. Would like to know if anyone knows of an instructional DVD I can order that teaches interm/advanced riding, especially evasive manuevers, etc. Feel like if I could see someone doing it would be much better than reading. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. __________________ EVERY DAY ABOVE GROUND IS A GOOD DAY

07-11-2005, 02:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cruise2Live Seat Tester Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: Suzuki M50 - blue Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 52	Take the Abate/MSF [whatever it's called in your area] basic/beginning rider course! When I took it, I was the only one there with zero riding experience (felt pretty stupid most of the time). But all the so-called experienced riders (riding a few months to a few years - mostly unlicensed) reported that they learned SO MUCH from taking the course that they never would have picked up on their own. It's definitely not just for beginners. After you take that, if you still crave riding knowledge sign up for either the dirtbike course or the advanced rider course. So you know, there are usually beaucoup benefits that you get for taking the course, including - first and foremost - learning how to not die while riding your motorcycle; then minor things like reduced insurance rates, bike-shop discounts, and waived or radically reduced MC licensure requirements. Taking the course is a flat-out no-brainer. Last edited by Cruise2Live; 07-11-2005 at 02:37 AM.

07-11-2005, 04:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	wow...that sounds pretty rough. i didnt get that opinion when the instructors were explaining it to us. and they said it is very elective, so anything you dont want to do you dont have to (unlike the beginners course where we had to in order to get license certificate). i agreee, no way to i want to drop the bike (dont care about me, i'll heal free, the bike will be $$). haha funny you say a VTX...my best friend has a 1300 and he is one who would do it with me. other riding buddies have Vulcan 1500 and a Vulcan 750. i think the smaller lighter bikes would be easier in a course like that rather than the heavier ones. . Last edited by Pinhy; 07-12-2005 at 11:18 AM.

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07-11-2005, 10:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	i agree with 2live here mostly...but if you ahve 10k miles of experience eventhough you might go "oh i never knew that" to one or two things in the beginner course, i would recommend the ERC (experienced rider course) offered by the same people (again whoever in your area). you ride your own bike rather than the little 250's and 125's they have and you will still pick up on many of the basics they teach. my friends and i took the basic when we first started riding. i am thinking about taking the ERC in the fall when it is a little cooler here, to help refresh my skills and get more practice in.

07-11-2005, 04:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
cjjtulsa Third gear and cruising Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: 2004 Marauder 1600 Black Location: Collinsville, Oklahoma Posts: 507	Don't know the truth of it, but I understand that ERC is pretty difficult. I work with a Harley guy who took it and said there was more than one bike carted off in bad shape. And they have medical personel waiting to sew up the ones who go down. He said one guy showed up on a brand new Honda VTX; it left a totaled pile in the back of a truck. He said he went through some pretty hairy slalom manuevers one day, the next day he did them again - with the aid of a firehose on the pavement. He's been riding 30 years and said he broke a sweat more than once. If he's not bullsh*tting, I'd be worried about tearing my stuff up - me and my bike can get busted up plenty well by accident without someone trying to wrinkle things up. I'd like to take the basic though. I'm sure I have tons to learn.

07-11-2005, 06:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
cjjtulsa Third gear and cruising Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: 2004 Marauder 1600 Black Location: Collinsville, Oklahoma Posts: 507	Like I said, this guy may be blowing smoke too. He said it was a VTX 1800 that crashed.

07-11-2005, 07:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
stock28 Seat Tester Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 80	I just read in a review somewhere on the web that half the people in a class drop their bike at least once. Would be good training, but I don't really want to leave with a damaged bike.

07-12-2005, 11:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	hell no! might have to get the old '81 gs650 fired up again for that! im NOT NOT NOT putting myself in a position to drop my brand new (4200 miles) baby! .

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