Do you like to drag your pegs?

[darrylsb]

I have foot plates on my M50 and I am finally getting used to the sound they make when they drag. It used to make me jump even when I was pushing it to try and drag the foot plates.

[Tuck_a_da_Phil]

Originally Posted by darrylsb

Be carefull with titanium, if it ignites it burns like magnisium. If it is a fine powder it is apparantly quite easy to ignite. So be carefull when you drill or machine it.

In the past year, the titanium industry has experienced five major fires at a cost of well over $1 million. All were preventable. We can do better.

A magnesium fire at Timet Henderson was caused by charging molten magnesium into a wet mold at a cost of $200,000 and two injuries.
A dust-collector fines fire at the Albany Casting Plant was caused by housekeeping and a bad dust collector at a cost of $250,000. No injuries.
A dust-collector fire at THT was caused by mechanical problems at a cost of $150,000. No injuries.
A magnesium fire at Timet Henderson was caused by 1,000 pounds of spilled molten magnesium metal that reacted with water from melted cooling lines at a cost of $300,000 and months of lost production. No injuries.
A fines fire at Gemeni, a powder pressing plant in Albany, Oregon, was caused by static electricity from a bad electrical motor. There were excessive amounts of powder stored in the area. The cost was $450,000; the company went out of business. No injuries.

WARNING!!! Scraping Titanium pegs on an M50 can lead to Explosion followed by serious injury or death. WTF? I've never heard of titanium being flammable. This is new to me. You would think this would prove to be kinda bad in combat aircraft constructed of titanium. Someone thought my post was off-topic... this is waaaay out in left field. What do explosions in factories have to do with scraping pegs on a motorcycle?

[mas3386]

i haven't heard of that either. i have heard of magnesium lighting on fire, but not titainium. i think i will have to do so research

[GeorgiaRoller]

Yes. But I don't try to do it. If it happens, it happens. No big deal.

[knipdm01]

Doing it in a wide open parking lot is fun to get comfortable with your bike. Recommend trying it so when it happens on the road you won't shat yourself. 2nd time a drug pegs was at deals gap while they were taking photos. Made my heart rate jump just a twitch

[Clint]

Many metals burn when exposed to air with enough surface. Even iron. (Remember the steel wool experiment in 6th grade?) The fact that Ti makes pretty sparks on the road attests to this.

I think the point is that if you drill or file it, the pile of shavings can go up quickly and very hotly. Be aware of that important safety issue, and spare us the snide remarks.

[CooleyM50]

Originally Posted by darrylsb

Be carefull with titanium, if it ignites it burns like magnisium. If it is a fine powder it is apparantly quite easy to ignite. So be carefull when you drill or machine it.

In the past year, the titanium industry has experienced five major fires at a cost of well over $1 million. All were preventable. We can do better.

A magnesium fire at Timet Henderson was caused by charging molten magnesium into a wet mold at a cost of $200,000 and two injuries.
A dust-collector fines fire at the Albany Casting Plant was caused by housekeeping and a bad dust collector at a cost of $250,000. No injuries.
A dust-collector fire at THT was caused by mechanical problems at a cost of $150,000. No injuries.
A magnesium fire at Timet Henderson was caused by 1,000 pounds of spilled molten magnesium metal that reacted with water from melted cooling lines at a cost of $300,000 and months of lost production. No injuries.
A fines fire at Gemeni, a powder pressing plant in Albany, Oregon, was caused by static electricity from a bad electrical motor. There were excessive amounts of powder stored in the area. The cost was $450,000; the company went out of business. No injuries.

What metal was it that the dust particles in the duct work they were removing in Champaign, Illinois former shop ended up burning and killing the two workers?
I remember it happening here but didn't remember the specifics.
These guys never had a chance. They walked into the office next door with flesh dripping off of them. They had inhaled the dust and flames I think.
They died shortly thereafter.

[burnchassis]

if "suspended in fine dust form,then ignited in perfect conditions.
You can cut Titanium with a cutting wheel,or grinder,drill it with a drill or weld it without problems.
Shave it up into dust,and toss it into an enclosed environment then ignite it ,it may ,OR may not go boom.
Don't breathe the dust or fumes from it,or get them in your eye.
Then I found this:

Titanium and Titanium Alloys
Flash Point: None reported
Autoignition Temperature: None reported for alloy but metal powders can burn and form explosive mixtures in air.
Some components of the alloy do have autoignition temperatures: chromium dust cloud 1076°F (580°C), dust layer
752°F (400°C); Aluminum dust cloud 1202°F (650°C), dust layer 1400°F (760°C), and titanium dust cloud 896 °F
(480 °C).
Lower Explosive Limit: None reported for alloy but some component powders do have reported limits – Chromium
0.23 oz/ft3, Aluminum >0.04 oz/ft3.
Upper Explosive Limit: None reported.
Extinguishing Media: If metal is reduced to a powder form, use dry sand, dry graphite or other Class “D” fire
extinguishing powder.
Unusual Fire or Explosion Hazards: Fine dust suspended in the air may ignite or explode. Titanium is ignitable and
may explode if in a finely divided form (i.e. cutting and/or grinding).
Fire Fighting: Wear a self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA) with full facepiece operated in the pressure
demand or positive pressure mode. Do not allow runoff from fire fighting to enter roadways or sewers. Material may
dry out and present additional fire/explosion hazards.
In solid form this material poses no special problems. If this material is in powder or dust form, wear
appropriate protective clothing and respiratory protection for the situation. Collect spilled material utilizing a vacuum
system equipped with a high efficiency particulate air filtration system and place in sealed containers for reclamation
or disposal. Use clean up measures that minimize dust. Avoid inhalation of dust. Remove sources of heat or ignition
as dust clouds can burn or explode. Recycle or dispose of material according to local, state, and federal regulations.
Handling: Use local exhaust ventilation if cutting or welding. If workers are exposed to dust (i.e. cutting, etc.)
provide appropriate respiratory, eye, and skin protection. An eyewash station should be readily available to areas of
use.
Storage: Protect containers from physical damage. Keep cool, dry and isolated from acids, caustics, halogenated
compounds, and oxidizers. Fine metal powder should be kept away from open flames and sources of ignition.
Engineering Control and Ventilation: If welding or cutting (causing dust) provide local exhaust with a minimum
face velocity of 60 fpm.
Respiratory Protection: Wear NIOSH/MSHA approved respirators if there is a potential for exposure to dust above
exposure limits for individual components of the powder and the additive effects of the components. Use NIOSH
respiratory protection guidelines to select proper respiratory protection.
Eye Protection: Wear safety glasses with side shields and /or goggles as necessary to prevent dust from entering
eyes.

[mystarr77]

Originally Posted by ShiftyFifty

Well.....Lowered you give up corner stability,corner speed,corner options,a bit of safety ,plus you usually need to stiffen the shock then you feel every bump on the road,so you give up a comfy ride,and you get wobbles in high speed corners.
Handles a bit worse then a stocker.
BUT
It does look sweeet!

Let me see! You say you give up corner stability, corner speed, corner options, a bit of safety, ride comfy, and you get high speed wobbles in corners and it handles worse than a stocker.

That's the kind of bike I want to ride. Can't you just let some air out of your tires?

[Apertureguy]

You know...if you grind flour fine enough...and toss it in the air, the friction of it passing through the air will ignite it.

Regardless...enjoy the pretty sparks if that's what you're into...I highly doubt you'll become an inferno because of it. You'd have a better chance on hitting the Lottery.

[tricker]

enfuego?

[GeorgiaRoller]

Originally Posted by Apertureguy

Regardless...enjoy the pretty sparks if that's what you're into...I highly doubt you'll become an inferno because of it. You'd have a better chance on hitting the Lottery.

Originally Posted by tricker

enfuego?

Si

[tricker]

updates for me... still scraping foot pegs and centerstand 2x. Adjusted pre-load in rear and only scraped pegs. Instructor pointed it out that someone was scraping and yeah it was me.. Now i'm wondering if i really need the zzr1200 shock or if i need to lose a few pounds... or learn how to ride

[Clint]

I'm reasonably sure that the bike is undersprung for you, Adam. Factory shocks are often barely adequate even for a 180-pounder--if not in preload then in damping ability.

[burnchassis]

I really like to drag my pegs,and whatever else it is that drags....frame ,swing arm,pipes and pegs lol
CS

[tricker]

Originally Posted by Clint

I'm reasonably sure that the bike is undersprung for you, Adam. Factory shocks are often barely adequate even for a 180-pounder--if not in preload then in damping ability.

so what would you suggest? I have a few options in my head but just throwing the real question out there. There are a few rear shock upgrade options I have. I'm sure i could adjust the front (not sure about how much would be good), but just not sure about the rear.

[Clint]

Dig up a how-to on setting sag if you haven't. I shoulda reminded you before the track.

[Davecm203]

Originally Posted by Clint

Dig up a how-to on setting sag if you haven't. I shoulda reminded you before the track.

Suspension Setup Guide - Sport Rider Magazine

Sport Rider has suspensions recomendations for an '06. If the suspension is the same, it is a good place to start at and make your adjustments for your weight and style from there. http://www.sportrider.com/suspension.../kawasaki.html

[tricker]

noted for future reference

[Tuck_a_da_Phil]

Originally Posted by Clint

Many metals burn when exposed to air with enough surface. Even iron. (Remember the steel wool experiment in 6th grade?) The fact that Ti makes pretty sparks on the road attests to this.

I think the point is that if you drill or file it, the pile of shavings can go up quickly and very hotly. Be aware of that important safety issue, and spare us the snide remarks.

None of that has anything to do with scraping pegs on a bike. You are in no danger of the titanium bits on your pegs exploding or catching fire. The fact that sparks will fly does not mean that the material is flammable. Just about any metal will spark with enough friction. Take a grinder to a piece of steel and see for yourself. Is anyone gonna go back and collect all the shavings from thier pegs scraping and set them on fire? Get real. I have never seen a more useless piece of trivia in my life. It has absolutely nothing to do with riding a motorcycle.