New 2010 M50 Info and Pictures

[Quantumcat]

Essentially my point Copronymous (I just didn't use the clinical term). It goes back a lot farther than that, though you state the prime example. It's what allowed foreign automakers to make such significant in-roads in the U.S. market imho.

"Profits! Profits! Profits uber alles." It just steams me. But I should be careful because I'm human and hypocrisy no doubt shows once my surface is scratched enough. Afterall, I'm in the product development dept. of a manufacturing company that has to sell product to stay viable.

I like to think my extremism on one end is to balance out the extremism on the other end. Perhaps it's just self-serving though.

[Lecithin]

I've never been a fan of the M109 and M95 style. I've always loved the Marauder style that the M50 held onto. I can say that if my M50 looked like this when I was shopping I would have purchased something else. I'm not sure making them all so similar does much for me.... just my two cents.

[Fishpart]

I would have liked to see the black wheels stay. Overall it's looks good.

[Pinhead78]

Originally Posted by Pinhead78

......Lets go ahead and jack this thread:
The late 90's version of the Camero Z28 and SS have almost the same exact stated HP as the 2010 Camero V6. So, this would be the first time that I would consider picking up that type of vehicle with a V6.

Originally Posted by 05HDRAM

The Camaro options I saw were the 3.6 V6 making 304hp, and the 6.2 V8 making 426 hp. If I was buying one, it wouldn't be for gas mileage. My point was all about power backing up the looks. I wouldn't buy a new Camaro that just looks fast, 122 hp is a big difference.

Along that thinking, the M50 as it is today looks like a nice cruiser and the performance pretty much matches the look. Now throw that small bucket on the headlight and make it look like the 109R, which is known to have some power, and it is starting to look like a drag bike. Kinda like the ricers putting the big wings and coffee can mufflers on the unmodded 4 cycl.

I was not making the comparison of the 2010 V6 versus the 2010 V8. My point was that the 1998 Camero V8 (Z28 or SS) made ~300HP, and that was top of the line and pretty bad @$$ in the day. Now that the 2010 V6 makes 300HP, I don't think its a bad thing to own a Camero V6 with 300HP. It'll still light up the tires and darken the asphalt just as it did 10 years ago.

[05HDRAM]

Originally Posted by Pinhead78

I was not making the comparison of the 2010 V6 versus the 2010 V8. My point was that the 1998 Camero V8 (Z28 or SS) made ~300HP, and that was top of the line and pretty bad @$$ in the day. Now that the 2010 V6 makes 300HP, I don't think its a bad thing to own a Camero V6 with 300HP. It'll still light up the tires and darken the asphalt just as it did 10 years ago.

No doubt the older Camaros were potent. I was using buying a new car to buying a new bike. If I am buying a sports car, I want the additional 122 hp. If I was going to buy a 2010 M50, I would skip it and buy the M90 or the 109.

[NoMoreLs1]

Originally Posted by Pinhead78

I was not making the comparison of the 2010 V6 versus the 2010 V8. My point was that the 1998 Camero V8 (Z28 or SS) made ~300HP, and that was top of the line and pretty bad @$$ in the day. Now that the 2010 V6 makes 300HP, I don't think its a bad thing to own a Camero V6 with 300HP. It'll still light up the tires and darken the asphalt just as it did 10 years ago.

It's spelled "Camaro" and I don't mean to nit pick but me being a Camaro enthusiast that spelling is one of my pet peeves. That being said a '98 Z28 will wipe the floor with a '10 V6. The new Camaro is a tank, weighing close to 4000#, whereas my old '98 was a tick under 3500#. While the hp is nearly identical the V6 suffers from a lack of off the line grunt (torque), that combined with the nearly 2 tons of weight make this car a pig out of the hole, especially if it's a auto.

My Z28 went 13.4 @ 106 bone stock and the current V6, while it is a very nice car, is at least a second slower.

Sorry for going

[Danthedawgfan]

Yep, my wife has an 08 Mustang, and yes it's just a 6 cyl, but we bought it for the deal and fuel mileage. Anyway, with the Mustang only pushing out around 250hp and the Challenger V6 around 280 you would expect their times to be much higher than that of the Camaro. The V6 Mustang, 2010 Camaro and Challenger are all in the very high 14's to low 15's. Is that slow? No, but the new Camaro in the V6 and V8 versions isn't very fast in relation to weight and power compared to the competition. The 420+hp Camaro is only 2/10ths faster than the 365hp Dodge, and the 310hp Ford. The Chevy is the most expensive of the group as well. Chevy dropped the ball in my opinion, but the new vette has high hopes... I still like the 4th gen of the Camaro better than the new one, and the 98-03 SS/WS6 were IMO the best versions of the F body.

[DMAN302]

Originally Posted by 05HDRAM

No doubt the older Camaros were potent. I was using buying a new car to buying a new bike. If I am buying a sports car, I want the additional 122 hp. If I was going to buy a 2010 M50, I would skip it and buy the M90 or the 109.

I myself agree 100% but this type of opinion is not considered the norm. People will be willing to sacrafice the power and experience of the big CC's for the look of the boulevard bike...just as they do with the current mustang (though most consumers feel the sacrafice is less extreme if the vehicle is a convertibe.) The bike will catch the eye of new buyers....they will love the fact they look like big brother. Once they ride it..we all know it's a great package, they often will prefer the $$ savings and 'settle' for little brother...that's suzuki's perception I think to some degree..and their absolutely right in my opinion.

[Quantumcat]

In the spirit of a little bit of balance, my parents just purchased a 2010 Mustang. It's not a GT and I haven't done any research yet, but it sure looks pretty.

It still shows further nods to the designs of the 60s (I really like the speedo).

They say that the color choice (black/black leather with chrome accents) had something to do with the pics of my M50 that I bought in April. I don't know whether influencing the style choices of my parents is a good thing or bad.

I'm off to ride. Play nice amongst yourselves.

[DCm50]

Don't like it at all. The headlights are hidious and the tail is just like all other bikes' tails...no personality. Just my opinion.

[nativenyerintexas]

Originally Posted by Copronymous

Here are the aesthetic reasons I bought the M50:

• Great headlight (gone)
• Unique rear fender (gone)
• Black engine case/final drive (gone)
• Black wheels (gone)
• Teardrop style air box (gone)

When people talk to me about my bike, they first reference all the black and how great it looks.
All that's gone now.

Frankly, this looks like the Kaw 900 Custom with a goofy headlight.

I hate it. I really hate it.

Originally Posted by dr death

what he said...

what he said...

Harley seat, Honda Shadow Spirit tail, M90 front end... you can own all three bikes by just buying this one. If this is really what the new M50 will look like, I'll keep my 08 and when I get a new bike, I'll look elsewhere... maybe to Yamaha. I like their Raider

.

A friend and I were just talking the other night about our bikes. He has a 2009 Yamaha Venture (red and black). He said the reason he likes his bike is because you don't see them everywhere and it's the #1 reason he likes mine. You never see an M50 but go to any biker bar and count how many Ultra Classics you see, then count how many of them are black. The M50 is unique in the sense that you never see them around. I can't begin to count how many people tell me I have a great looking bike when I'm out and about. Even the girls take second and third looks... but they're the ones that ask "what kind of Harley is that?"

[racerm50]

Originally Posted by PerfectStranger

Headlight is terrible looking...just like its big brother. Yuck. Lost the black wheels too?

I'm with you on the black wheel thing . when people see my m50 the first comment is "like the blue" next is "like the black wheels"

[Danthedawgfan]

I've noticed a few people have thrown in the bit that they would like the 2010 a little more if it had the cowl for the rear fender like the one that the M109 and M90 both sport. Are you guys reading the article that was added with the picture or just grabbing the picture and running with that? It states in the article that the cowl does come with it, and it also says the seat was changed for comfort reasons... We all know the the comfort of the current M50 sucks, in fact that seat and the debaffle of the stock exhaust are probably the two most common upgrades/mods that this bike receives. Maybe they are listening to what the previous M50 owners are saying about the bike after all.

Maybe this like most other things people don't like change. Wonder what would have happened if Cessna would have changed the looks of the 172 (same design from 1955-2009) in 2000. People would have been outraged by the change, then a few months later they would have forgotten that they were pissed at Cessna and still would have bought the new one because it is still a 172 and it will have grown on em.

[Lecithin]

I loved my 2006 (and still do) when I bought it and I do like some of the changes on this bike. Its much like politics, any changes are going to aggravate some... actually in politics normally both sides are dissapointed

I like the air filter cover, at least I know on my m50 I want to change that out so maybe its just the change I like.

I loved the black wheels and black parts on mine, then again mine is gray and I always thought the two colors worked well (for me)

The only thing I really don't like is that cowl, I've never liked it on the other m bikes in the line but then again, that's (as the article puts it) "its signature"

[gottowin]

Originally Posted by Copronymous

Here are the aesthetic reasons I bought the M50:

• Great headlight (gone)
• Unique rear fender (gone)
• Black engine case/final drive (gone)
• Black wheels (gone)
• Teardrop style air box (gone)

When people talk to me about my bike, they first reference all the black and how great it looks.
All that's gone now.

Frankly, this looks like the Kaw 900 Custom with a goofy headlight.

I hate it. I really hate it.

Originally Posted by dr death

what he said...

What he said...

Suzuki took a SH*T

[womper]

ack.. ugly as hell.

the only thing they did better on the 2010 model is the seat and the mirrors.
funny. my corbin seat looks just like that and i have those same mirrors. haha

hate the 2010 model. not unique anymore.

[atweibel]

They should've kept the 05-09 looks and given us a disc brake in the rear and some more aftermarket parts if they wanted to "improve" our M50 line.

[05HDRAM]

As posted above, this is making the Raider look like a real good option. I read on some other forum that they will not be offering a cowl for the rear seat. At least that would help a little.

To all the posts about change and accpetance, I agree to some extent. But you need to have choices. I don't want one since every M109 & M90 have that look. I don't know if anyone has been looking lately, but you can get a new M109 for around $10k, and used ones for as little as $7,500.

[techgesture]

While I like the M90, I do not like the M109R in its entirety. The M109R2 on the other hand fits my fancy much more with the changed headlight. I don't mind the M90 headlight as its not AS BIG as the M109R version. But the 109 has its appeal with that monster engine. I almost bought a killer deal on a white one trading in my M50 as I was looking for more performance, but that headlight simply just killed me (and the deal).

But seriously though - while I am not a specific fan of this new M50 and would peronsonally not buy it - as a current owner of an 05 M50, it actually makes me more proud to own the one that I have. It now makes ours more unique. With this one coming out, the 05 - 09 versions are the only ones that have our look and hopefully should have a positive impact on the value - as people who are looking for that look won't be able to get that anywhere else anymore.

So to that point, I am glad that Suzuki is moving into this direction, it makes our bikes more unique (our '05 - '09 versions) - which is what I like

[SaintBernard]

I am going to be in the minority here but overall I like the 2010 M50. The major thing I like is the new seat. It finally looks like a bike I would not have to spend $500 so my wife would be willing to ride on it. My guess is the change to the seat and rear fender is so it can use the same parts as the C50. I hope it has the knid of appeal Suzuki is hoping for. Comparing my 08 to the new 10 the differences are minor to changes for the 08 to 09 Triumph Bonneville.

Doug