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The Dark Knight · 05-12-2009, 11:29 PM

Im ok with that..

zmeyer13 · 05-13-2009, 09:26 AM

Crowd loving it. So just quick addition I cam about with about $2900. I love the idea but too rich for my blood. Thanks for going through all the effort to put this together and I think you have a nice little business opportunity here! Good luck bro

mfifyguy · 05-13-2009, 05:21 PM

Hey there. I am thinking about doing this to my bike. I am very mechanically intelligent if that's what you want to call it, haha but I have no idea about turbos. I usually work on v8 gm motors so I never have had the need for a turbo. I have worked on some cat, cummins and Detroit diesel turbos but never got into all the know how. I can tig weld and all but the only thing I need help on is the turbo stuff. So what is needed? I see a turbo, some oil line maybe, and some other thing below the turbo. What's that and do I need it?think you could help me out?

The Dark Knight · 05-13-2009, 05:56 PM

mfifguy.. thats a wastegate and is a must its a tial 38mm.. it controls your boost by opening the exhaust before the turbo based off boost from your turbo by pushing against your spring inside the wastegate reducing the pressure behind the turbo in the exhaust therefore spinning the turbo slower creating less boost.... I will be posting the install of all the finished parts and where to tap into oil pressure from the motor for the oil feed line and return line.. the updated parts list is just about everything you will need

This is what im used to working on too.. I worked for Jon Barrett Hot Rod Engines in the "glory days" when we were building engines for the Wrecks To Richs show by Barry White Speed Shop in Corona Ca

omegajim · 05-13-2009, 06:33 PM

looking at the charts one more time, it's really nice how that torque curve flattens out for over 1500 rpm - which means as you shift from one gear to another, there is a similar amount of torque providing more constant acceleration than a normal "peaky" engine.

although I do agree, at $2900 for this bike, it is getting a bit expensive.

The Dark Knight · 05-13-2009, 06:35 PM

I never said I paid those prices... I shopped around

fargoben67 · 05-13-2009, 06:52 PM

so if i rode down for a weekend, gave you $3K and my bike for the weekend.. i could get home twice as fast?

NoMoreLs1 · 05-13-2009, 06:55 PM

Dark Knight is that a carbed LS1 motor?

The Dark Knight · 05-13-2009, 07:10 PM

If you'd like to... Yes thats a carb'd 402 Gen 3

The Dark Knight · 05-13-2009, 07:18 PM

Got a new Speedometer face to match the cobalt gauge
really nice guy ... http://www.stargis.net/webslinger/Im...eedo/index.htm

The Dark Knight · 05-13-2009, 07:28 PM

Back to buisness

Turbo Return Line

Turbo Feedline

What the bike looks like now

Oil Feed line.. Drill and Tap the bolt next to the oil idiot light sensor for 1/8 NPT

Oil Return

mfifyguy · 05-13-2009, 11:38 PM

got it. by the way since you seem to have a lot of small blocks sitting around think i can have one for my el camino? but anyways what small turbo would you suggest and waste gate? like off another vehicle.

The Dark Knight · 05-14-2009, 10:56 AM

The list of stuff is on the first page i believe its the 3rd item down a 93-99 SAAB Viggen DT04HL-15T a few up from that listing will take you directly to some on ebay (i think im going to have to sit you torward the front of the class so you can see the board lol or more frequent reviews..)... Friend, please pick a good wastegate... if you "skimp out" on anything for the install do not let it be the wastegate if you change it to external... (recommended so you can clock it similar to how I have mine) These turbos come with an internal wastegate.. however you cannot clock it the way I have put it on my bike, and Im not sure if you can adjust that rod to the point where only 4psi will open it... I highly reccomend a TIAL 38mm wastegate (ebay 210.00 any color you want just ask them to put a small red spring in 5.8lb) Remember the wastegate is going to Control how much boost your engine sees.. The stock fuel system isnt going to take much over 4lbs... ( I have a cheapish remedy in the process for this to be able to run 8lbs)

Horrible video of it on very first start up... I promise to do better on reassembly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrrydSBxM7s

Copronymous · 05-14-2009, 03:11 PM

I think I need to plan a road trip to see this thing in action. We have family in Edmund & OKC, so it could be a good time.

The Dark Knight · 05-14-2009, 03:26 PM

Cool Bring your bike so we can drag race, I used to know a guy with one I was going to call up so I could see how it runs against stock or should i tag a gsxr 600 somewhere lol

omegajim · 05-14-2009, 07:24 PM

did I see a shift light on the left side of that handlebar, or am I just imagining?

The Dark Knight · 05-14-2009, 07:52 PM

your right look a few posts up, autometer shift light on the left

Porcelina Goddess · 05-14-2009, 08:12 PM

Since I was a car lover loonnnngg before I got into bikes, I think I should make my way west for a visit just to check out any kind of hot rod you've got in your garage!!!! Isn't that a Nova in those pics above?

The Dark Knight · 05-14-2009, 08:18 PM

69 Chevelle lol

Porcelina Goddess · 05-14-2009, 08:20 PM

DAMN! I was going between that one or the Nova, and chose poorly lmao

05-13-2009, 05:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	mfifguy.. thats a wastegate and is a must its a tial 38mm.. it controls your boost by opening the exhaust before the turbo based off boost from your turbo by pushing against your spring inside the wastegate reducing the pressure behind the turbo in the exhaust therefore spinning the turbo slower creating less boost.... I will be posting the install of all the finished parts and where to tap into oil pressure from the motor for the oil feed line and return line.. the updated parts list is just about everything you will need This is what im used to working on too.. I worked for Jon Barrett Hot Rod Engines in the "glory days" when we were building engines for the Wrecks To Richs show by Barry White Speed Shop in Corona Ca Last edited by The Dark Knight; 05-14-2009 at 08:35 PM.

05-13-2009, 06:33 PM	#25 (permalink)
omegajim M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: Jan 2007 Bike: 1980 Yamaha XS850 Location: Washington County, WI Posts: 11,345	looking at the charts one more time, it's really nice how that torque curve flattens out for over 1500 rpm - which means as you shift from one gear to another, there is a similar amount of torque providing more constant acceleration than a normal "peaky" engine. although I do agree, at $2900 for this bike, it is getting a bit expensive. __________________ "FREE TIBET!"* With purchase of one Tibet of equal or greater value. "I have a driver's license. It doesn't mean I show up at the Indy 500 with my morgan." Ducky- NCIS and until very recently, we were Wisconsin Tourism Federation ----- no really.

05-13-2009, 06:52 PM	#27 (permalink)
fargoben67 Fourth gear and illegal Join Date: Sep 2008 Bike: 2008 Boulevard M50 Black and Yellow Location: fargo nd Posts: 779	so if i rode down for a weekend, gave you $3K and my bike for the weekend.. i could get home twice as fast? __________________ 2008 Black on yellow M50 ~ Cobra Streetrod Slashdowns ~ FI2000R ~ removed air cleaner ~ de-paired ~ de-flectored ~ 3" drop ~ JK forward controls ~ curved side mount license plate ~ integrated tail light ~ Jardine sissy bar ~ always looking for more stuff to add! I have metal in both of my legs. I'm working on becoming the Bionic Man!

05-13-2009, 07:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	Got a new Speedometer face to match the cobalt gauge really nice guy ... http://www.stargis.net/webslinger/Im...eedo/index.htm Last edited by The Dark Knight; 05-14-2009 at 09:00 PM.

05-13-2009, 07:28 PM	#31 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	Back to buisness Turbo Return Line Turbo Feedline What the bike looks like now Oil Feed line.. Drill and Tap the bolt next to the oil idiot light sensor for 1/8 NPT Oil Return Last edited by The Dark Knight; 05-13-2009 at 07:36 PM.

05-12-2009, 11:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	Im ok with that..

05-13-2009, 09:26 AM	#22 (permalink)
zmeyer13 Where Am I ? Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 35	Crowd loving it. So just quick addition I cam about with about $2900. I love the idea but too rich for my blood. Thanks for going through all the effort to put this together and I think you have a nice little business opportunity here! Good luck bro

05-13-2009, 05:21 PM	#23 (permalink)
mfifyguy Clunked into first gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Bike: Suzuki m50 Location: Stockton CA Posts: 229	Hey there. I am thinking about doing this to my bike. I am very mechanically intelligent if that's what you want to call it, haha but I have no idea about turbos. I usually work on v8 gm motors so I never have had the need for a turbo. I have worked on some cat, cummins and Detroit diesel turbos but never got into all the know how. I can tig weld and all but the only thing I need help on is the turbo stuff. So what is needed? I see a turbo, some oil line maybe, and some other thing below the turbo. What's that and do I need it?think you could help me out?

05-13-2009, 06:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	I never said I paid those prices... I shopped around

05-13-2009, 06:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
NoMoreLs1 Seat Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Bike: '09 Kawasaki 650R Location: Schererville, IN Posts: 56	Dark Knight is that a carbed LS1 motor?

05-13-2009, 07:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	If you'd like to... Yes thats a carb'd 402 Gen 3

05-13-2009, 11:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
mfifyguy Clunked into first gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Bike: Suzuki m50 Location: Stockton CA Posts: 229	got it. by the way since you seem to have a lot of small blocks sitting around think i can have one for my el camino? but anyways what small turbo would you suggest and waste gate? like off another vehicle.

05-14-2009, 10:56 AM	#33 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	Its in the list O stuff The list of stuff is on the first page i believe its the 3rd item down a 93-99 SAAB Viggen DT04HL-15T a few up from that listing will take you directly to some on ebay (i think im going to have to sit you torward the front of the class so you can see the board lol or more frequent reviews..)... Friend, please pick a good wastegate... if you "skimp out" on anything for the install do not let it be the wastegate if you change it to external... (recommended so you can clock it similar to how I have mine) These turbos come with an internal wastegate.. however you cannot clock it the way I have put it on my bike, and Im not sure if you can adjust that rod to the point where only 4psi will open it... I highly reccomend a TIAL 38mm wastegate (ebay 210.00 any color you want just ask them to put a small red spring in 5.8lb) Remember the wastegate is going to Control how much boost your engine sees.. The stock fuel system isnt going to take much over 4lbs... ( I have a cheapish remedy in the process for this to be able to run 8lbs) Horrible video of it on very first start up... I promise to do better on reassembly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrrydSBxM7s Last edited by The Dark Knight; 05-14-2009 at 02:32 PM.

05-14-2009, 03:11 PM	#34 (permalink)
Copronymous TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2007 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 558	I think I need to plan a road trip to see this thing in action. We have family in Edmund & OKC, so it could be a good time. __________________ "He's down there right now, looking up at us." M50 Service Manual \|\| He was here just a minute ago. \|\| Don't click here (and especially HERE)

05-14-2009, 03:26 PM	#35 (permalink)
The Dark Knight TurtleWax Taster Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 597	Cool Bring your bike so we can drag race, I used to know a guy with one I was going to call up so I could see how it runs against stock or should i tag a gsxr 600 somewhere lol Last edited by The Dark Knight; 05-14-2009 at 03:28 PM.

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omegajim M-J Lifetime Achievement Award Join Date: Jan 2007 Bike: 1980 Yamaha XS850 Location: Washington County, WI Posts: 11,345	did I see a shift light on the left side of that handlebar, or am I just imagining? __________________ "FREE TIBET!"* With purchase of one Tibet of equal or greater value. "I have a driver's license. It doesn't mean I show up at the Indy 500 with my morgan." Ducky- NCIS and until very recently, we were Wisconsin Tourism Federation ----- no really.

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