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Rockyrikoko · 02-11-2009, 10:08 PM

Well the pipes are done-ish.

I thought the semi gloss pipes would blend in well with the rest of the semi gloss black on the bike so I didn’t wrap them but I found out that rustolium grill paint doesn’t stick for crap.

I even wore latex gloves to keep the oils off while I washed them, sanded them, wiped them down, and during each of the 4 light coat applications. So unless someone can vouch otherwise, rustolium sucks on steel surfaces. If you look closely you can see anywhere the wrench or my wedding band touched during the reinstall. So needless to say I will eventually pull them back of and strip and refinish em later.

Other than that I am very happy with how they cam out and the performance/aesthetic gains my M has made.

Thanks again to everyone for their input and assistance regarding this project and feel free to shoot me any questions or further suggestions you may have.

This is the paint I used...

burnchassis · 02-12-2009, 02:24 AM

Remember that bike is not rideable with no wrap or heat shield.
To hot to handle!
Your asking for blisters.
CS

Ext1jdh · 02-12-2009, 09:58 AM

Wow. Stealthpipes.

NGKTECH · 02-12-2009, 10:23 AM

They look great!!

Also how come noone has recommended a jet-hot coating? I know you can get it in a chrome look but they may even have a black. That coating is supposed to reduce temperatures quite a bit and you may not even have to wrap them at that point.

The only downside is the coating is probably around $100 or more. But it's what we use to coat headers and turbine housings on race cars and keep the heat in the pipes and not in the engine bay.

There a lot of different brands of these coatings but one like this will work

http://www.jet-hot.com/

Header Powder Coating - Thermal Coating for Exhaust - Thermal Engine Coatings - Piston Dry Film Lubricant - Motorcycle Ceramic Coatings Exhaust

This is taken from Jet-Hots site:

STERLING SILVER is our brightest looking finish. It comes out looking like a very highly polished aluminum. This coating can withstand temperatures up to 1,300ºF and will reduce skin temps on pipes by about 300ºF. It is a very low maintenance finish, easily cleaned with soap and water. You can use any non-abrasive aluminum polish to bring out the shine if it ever gets dirty. It will never turn blue or gold like chrome or stainless. This coating works great on normally aspirated engines and any parts that need to have a show quality finish.

NateHarris · 02-12-2009, 11:49 AM

I would look at having the shop cut in half a larger diameter pipe that you can use as a heat shield. Tack weld a nut to the pipes, drill holes in the heat shield and bolt them on.

By the time you know you have touched those pipes, you will have 3rd degree burns.

Rockyrikoko · 02-12-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGKTECH

They look great!!

Also how come noone has recommended a jet-hot coating? I know you can get it in a chrome look but they may even have a black. That coating is supposed to reduce temperatures quite a bit and you may not even have to wrap them at that point.

Thanks, I appreciate the info but it looks like more than I’m wanting to spend. I already kinda went over budget so I’m probably just going to end up doing something I can do myself. I actually hear powder coating is really cheap, it’s the prep work involved that’s time consuming and expensive. It seems I have perked others interest so if anyone wants to make these pipes and go with a different finish I would love to see how they come out. Especially that polished aluminum heat blocking for the chrome junkies. I bet that would come out nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateHarris

I would look at having the shop cut in half a larger diameter pipe that you can use as a heat shield. Tack weld a nut to the pipes, drill holes in the heat shield and bolt them on.
By the time you know you have touched those pipes, you will have 3rd degree burns.

Yeah, your absolutely right. They don’t get as hot as I thought they would but I went on a 2 hour ride last night and when I got off my jeans were kinda burned. Not visibly, but they felt rough and I could see meted fibers on the pipe. So I like your idea for the heat shield. It was in the low 40’s last night so that may have helped keep the heat from getting outa control.

05HDRAM · 02-13-2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGKTECH

They look great!!

Also how come noone has recommended a jet-hot coating? I know you can get it in a chrome look but they may even have a black. That coating is supposed to reduce temperatures quite a bit and you may not even have to wrap them at that point.

I recommended that back on the first page.

I was searching for heat shields, and there are all types of options.

NGKTECH · 02-13-2009, 09:34 AM

Another option I wanted to throw out there was that when I was on Summit's website they sell the 2" steel J-bends for $15 a piece.

But...

They also sell stainless J-bends for only $21 a piece, and Rocky you said you only used three of these right? So not too bad for only $63 in metal to have a stainless exhaust that should last a good while. Here a link:

Summit SUM-621005 - Summit® Exhaust Tubing Mandrel Bends - summitracing.com
Steel

Dynomax Performance 42426 - Dynomax Mandrel-Bent Elbows - summitracing.com
Stainless

Rockyrikoko · 02-13-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGKTECH

Another option I wanted to throw out there was that when I was on Summit's website they sell the 2" steel J-bends for $15 a piece.

But...

They also sell stainless J-bends for only $21 a piece, and Rocky you said you only used three of these right? So not too bad for only $63 in metal to have a stainless exhaust that should last a good while. Here a link:

Summit SUM-621005 - Summit® Exhaust Tubing Mandrel Bends - summitracing.com
Steel

Dynomax Performance 42426 - Dynomax Mandrel-Bent Elbows - summitracing.com
Stainless

Yeah, i was trying to do the project on a budget and if i would have known it would get as pricey as it did when i started i would have definitely paid the extra ~20 bucks for the greatly superior metal... Great point

Rockyrikoko · 02-23-2009, 04:10 PM

Well I was finally up during the day today (I work nights) and was able to get some snaps of my finished pipes. Here they are for your viewing pleasure.

NGKTECH · 02-23-2009, 04:52 PM

Those look BAD ASS!!

Zinje · 02-23-2009, 11:19 PM

Looks great! How much did all that cost you? Can you make me a set

Rockyrikoko · 03-16-2009, 08:23 AM

It looks like my pipes have gained international fame. This is a message from a guy in spain...

Hello.

I am looking to your videos in youtube about your fantastic Boulevard M50. I have the intruder m800 that is the same but in my country it is called diferent....

OK, i am reading your comment about the videos and i can´t believe...it is possible?...can you explain me how did you these PIPES.... the weight, form of weld, .....all that you can explain me to do a pair of pipes like yours.....please....

If you want enter in this FORO that we have in SPAIN about our motorbike.... it´s interesting. Say hello to all people in "presentaciones" and talk us about your pipes and you in general....(if you want....jejeje)... my nick in this foro is MANDINGO....see you there...ok?

bye and thanks for all.....and SORRY for my poor english, i expend that you can understand me.

bye......

cardude720 · 03-16-2009, 08:55 PM

well, did you hook him up with the secret recipe for awesome pipes?

Trigger1985 · 03-16-2009, 09:03 PM

I love the pipes.... I may have to build my self a set, neighbors be damned.
BTW.. I found it interesting that in spain hehehe=jejeje- makes since since j is pronouced h, but its still one of those things you just don't think about

cardude720 · 03-16-2009, 09:06 PM

yea, i know a girl from paraguay and she does the same "jejeje"

Rockyrikoko · 03-16-2009, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardude720

well, did you hook him up with the secret recipe for awesome pipes?

Sure did

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trigger1985

I love the pipes.... I may have to build my self a set, neighbors be damned.
BTW.. I found it interesting that in spain hehehe=jejeje- makes since since j is pronouced h, but its still one of those things you just don't think about

Please do, I am very happy with them. I have gleaned so much info off this forum I'm just happy to be able to contribute something in return

Rockyrikoko · 03-17-2009, 01:01 AM

I didn’t like the instructions for how to make my pipes being at the bottom of the page so I moved them to post #81 on the top of page 5. (next page)

Trigger’s question is now in reference to post #81 and is answered at the bottom of the same post. Thanks all for dealing with my OCD.

Trigger1985 · 03-17-2009, 02:04 AM

Silly girl, you can't weld with a cutting torch

Thanks. I take it the J Bends were un-bent to get the right shape? I ask because I'm my welder. And Thanks much.

Diamond Jim, I make a motion to have this added to the sticky.

05HDRAM · 03-17-2009, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trigger1985

Thanks. I take it the J Bends were un-bent to get the right shape? I ask because I'm my welder. And Thanks much.

You want to cut and weld to get the curve you need. Also check into rings that help weld these joints together. I know Hooker makes them.

Hooker Headers 12104HKR - Shop For Hooker Alignment Weld Sleeves Alignment Weld Sleeves - 2.0 in. Outside Diameter Tubing - Set of 20 12104HKR at StreetPerformance.com

02-11-2009, 10:08 PM	#61 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Well the pipes are done-ish. I thought the semi gloss pipes would blend in well with the rest of the semi gloss black on the bike so I didn’t wrap them but I found out that rustolium grill paint doesn’t stick for crap. I even wore latex gloves to keep the oils off while I washed them, sanded them, wiped them down, and during each of the 4 light coat applications. So unless someone can vouch otherwise, rustolium sucks on steel surfaces. If you look closely you can see anywhere the wrench or my wedding band touched during the reinstall. So needless to say I will eventually pull them back of and strip and refinish em later. Other than that I am very happy with how they cam out and the performance/aesthetic gains my M has made. Thanks again to everyone for their input and assistance regarding this project and feel free to shoot me any questions or further suggestions you may have. This is the paint I used... Attached Thumbnails __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshapedRerouted cables behind triple tree Last edited by Rockyrikoko; 02-11-2009 at 10:17 PM.*

02-12-2009, 02:24 AM	#62 (permalink)
burnchassis U.B's LoveChild Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2005 M50 PCIII K&N Thunder intake kit,custom pipes wrapped,DE-paired,side plate LED METZ 200 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posts: 1,217	Remember that bike is not rideable with no wrap or heat shield. To hot to handle! Your asking for blisters. CS __________________ Rippin twisties! BIG GRIND! M50 Wheelie Grinding pegs Final drive repair HOW-TO Final drive+shaft rebuild HOW-TO Getting to the front u-joint HOW-TO Remove your drive ,and CHECK IT! HOW-TO Lumpectomy HOW TO Clutch adjust HOW TO Clutch install HOW TO Metzeler 200 tire mount/ install HOW TO Lower your front end FREE! HOW TO Lower your rear end! HOW TO Still looking for the new throttle on/off switch. QUIET PIPES RISK LIVES!

02-12-2009, 09:58 AM	#63 (permalink)
Ext1jdh Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Join Date: Apr 2005 Bike: Sold Location: Elgin, IL, US Posts: 5,388	Wow. Stealthpipes. __________________ I am lurking. I am likely to be eaten by a grue.

02-12-2009, 10:23 AM	#64 (permalink)
NGKTECH Ditch Magnet Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Wixom, MI USA Posts: 166	They look great!! Also how come noone has recommended a jet-hot coating? I know you can get it in a chrome look but they may even have a black. That coating is supposed to reduce temperatures quite a bit and you may not even have to wrap them at that point. The only downside is the coating is probably around $100 or more. But it's what we use to coat headers and turbine housings on race cars and keep the heat in the pipes and not in the engine bay. There a lot of different brands of these coatings but one like this will work http://www.jet-hot.com/ Header Powder Coating - Thermal Coating for Exhaust - Thermal Engine Coatings - Piston Dry Film Lubricant - Motorcycle Ceramic Coatings Exhaust This is taken from Jet-Hots site: STERLING SILVER is our brightest looking finish. It comes out looking like a very highly polished aluminum. This coating can withstand temperatures up to 1,300ºF and will reduce skin temps on pipes by about 300ºF. It is a very low maintenance finish, easily cleaned with soap and water. You can use any non-abrasive aluminum polish to bring out the shine if it ever gets dirty. It will never turn blue or gold like chrome or stainless. This coating works great on normally aspirated engines and any parts that need to have a show quality finish. __________________ -Brandon 2007 Violet Blue M50 lowered 3" 8" black Z-bars side mount curved plate chopped rear end debaffled Black forks Custom seat mod NGK Spark Plugs (USA) 877-473-6767 option 2 (for tech support) Last edited by NGKTECH; 02-12-2009 at 10:28 AM.

02-12-2009, 11:49 AM	#65 (permalink)
NateHarris Found second gear by accident Join Date: Oct 2006 Bike: 07 Suzuki M50 Location: Fort Mill, SC 29707 Posts: 301	I would look at having the shop cut in half a larger diameter pipe that you can use as a heat shield. Tack weld a nut to the pipes, drill holes in the heat shield and bolt them on. By the time you know you have touched those pipes, you will have 3rd degree burns. __________________ Nate 07 M50 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world’s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage." -Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle Of Democracy (1770) "Loud pipes save egos" - N.H.

02-13-2009, 09:34 AM	#68 (permalink)
NGKTECH Ditch Magnet Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Wixom, MI USA Posts: 166	Another option I wanted to throw out there was that when I was on Summit's website they sell the 2" steel J-bends for $15 a piece. But... They also sell stainless J-bends for only $21 a piece, and Rocky you said you only used three of these right? So not too bad for only $63 in metal to have a stainless exhaust that should last a good while. Here a link: Summit SUM-621005 - Summit® Exhaust Tubing Mandrel Bends - summitracing.com Steel Dynomax Performance 42426 - Dynomax Mandrel-Bent Elbows - summitracing.com Stainless __________________ -Brandon 2007 Violet Blue M50 lowered 3" 8" black Z-bars side mount curved plate chopped rear end debaffled Black forks Custom seat mod NGK Spark Plugs (USA) 877-473-6767 option 2 (for tech support)

02-23-2009, 04:10 PM	#70 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Well I was finally up during the day today (I work nights) and was able to get some snaps of my finished pipes. Here they are for your viewing pleasure. Attached Thumbnails __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshapedRerouted cables behind triple tree Last edited by Rockyrikoko; 02-23-2009 at 04:28 PM.*

02-23-2009, 04:52 PM	#71 (permalink)
NGKTECH Ditch Magnet Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Wixom, MI USA Posts: 166	Those look BAD ASS!! __________________ -Brandon 2007 Violet Blue M50 lowered 3" 8" black Z-bars side mount curved plate chopped rear end debaffled Black forks Custom seat mod NGK Spark Plugs (USA) 877-473-6767 option 2 (for tech support)

02-23-2009, 11:19 PM	#72 (permalink)
Zinje Puddle Runner Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2008 Black M50 (SOLD) Location: SoCal Rider Posts: 361	Looks great! How much did all that cost you? Can you make me a set

03-16-2009, 08:23 AM	#73 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	It looks like my pipes have gained international fame. This is a message from a guy in spain... Hello. I am looking to your videos in youtube about your fantastic Boulevard M50. I have the intruder m800 that is the same but in my country it is called diferent.... OK, i am reading your comment about the videos and i can´t believe...it is possible?...can you explain me how did you these PIPES.... the weight, form of weld, .....all that you can explain me to do a pair of pipes like yours.....please.... If you want enter in this FORO that we have in SPAIN about our motorbike.... it´s interesting. Say hello to all people in "presentaciones" and talk us about your pipes and you in general....(if you want....jejeje)... my nick in this foro is MANDINGO....see you there...ok? bye and thanks for all.....and SORRY for my poor english, i expend that you can understand me. bye...... __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshaped*Rerouted cables behind triple tree

03-16-2009, 08:55 PM	#74 (permalink)
cardude720 Clutch Cadet Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Black 2007 Suzuki M50 and Red 2005 V-Max 20th Anniversary Edition #886 Location: SoCal Posts: 946	well, did you hook him up with the secret recipe for awesome pipes? __________________ Morton Violators W/ Exhaust Wrap, Tornado Airkit W/ K&N Precharger, Saddlemen Profiler, Power Commander, Side Mount Plate W/ LED Bolt Lights, Debadged, De-Paired, Dremel Of Rear Mud Flap, De-Reflectorized. A Salam Alekum/ Shalom Alechem May Peace Be With You"

03-16-2009, 09:03 PM	#75 (permalink)
Trigger1985 Third gear and cruising Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 530	I love the pipes.... I may have to build my self a set, neighbors be damned. BTW.. I found it interesting that in spain hehehe=jejeje- makes since since j is pronouced h, but its still one of those things you just don't think about __________________ Places to ride: Beartooth Pass, Deals Gap, Yellowstone, The Dakotas 2008 Suzuki M50 Custom Painted Satin Black an Sublime Green, OEM Engine Guard, MJ limited Risers, home brew light bar with driving lights, debadged, Küryakyn ISO flame grips, drag specialties clamp on highway pegs, custom crosshair radiator cover, lowered two inches with a set of stock pipes painted black and debaffled, demickeyed and chopped. In storage-Küryakyn XL saddlebags, Spitfire Windshield, Sissy bar/back rest, hand tooled sissybar pad cover,

03-16-2009, 09:06 PM	#76 (permalink)
cardude720 Clutch Cadet Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: Black 2007 Suzuki M50 and Red 2005 V-Max 20th Anniversary Edition #886 Location: SoCal Posts: 946	yea, i know a girl from paraguay and she does the same "jejeje" __________________ Morton Violators W/ Exhaust Wrap, Tornado Airkit W/ K&N Precharger, Saddlemen Profiler, Power Commander, Side Mount Plate W/ LED Bolt Lights, Debadged, De-Paired, Dremel Of Rear Mud Flap, De-Reflectorized. A Salam Alekum/ Shalom Alechem May Peace Be With You"

03-17-2009, 01:01 AM	#78 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	I didn’t like the instructions for how to make my pipes being at the bottom of the page so I moved them to post #81 on the top of page 5. (next page) Trigger’s question is now in reference to post #81 and is answered at the bottom of the same post. Thanks all for dealing with my OCD. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshapedRerouted cables behind triple tree Last edited by Rockyrikoko; 03-17-2009 at 10:55 PM.*

03-17-2009, 02:04 AM	#79 (permalink)
Trigger1985 Third gear and cruising Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 530	Silly girl, you can't weld with a cutting torch Thanks. I take it the J Bends were un-bent to get the right shape? I ask because I'm my welder. And Thanks much. Diamond Jim, I make a motion to have this added to the sticky. __________________ Places to ride: Beartooth Pass, Deals Gap, Yellowstone, The Dakotas 2008 Suzuki M50 Custom Painted Satin Black an Sublime Green, OEM Engine Guard, MJ limited Risers, home brew light bar with driving lights, debadged, Küryakyn ISO flame grips, drag specialties clamp on highway pegs, custom crosshair radiator cover, lowered two inches with a set of stock pipes painted black and debaffled, demickeyed and chopped. In storage-Küryakyn XL saddlebags, Spitfire Windshield, Sissy bar/back rest, hand tooled sissybar pad cover,

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