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Rockyrikoko · 01-23-2009, 06:26 PM

Pipes are done! pics will soon follow.

Rockyrikoko · 01-24-2009, 06:11 PM

Pics as promised. I still have to paint and wrap them. More pics will follow for the final product.

Come to find out 2" is too big to have them cross like the Violators but I'm not worried about it. The Violators were the inspiration and this is what I came up with. I love that these pipes get rid of so much of the clutter on the back end

DNW VZ800 · 01-24-2009, 06:36 PM

Great insight for if decide to change to custom pipes......

burnchassis · 01-24-2009, 06:36 PM

More importantly....how does she sound?
get a freakin clip posted dude!
The anticipation is killin me!Looks very very nice,and the best part is NOONE ELSE HAS THAT SETUP! lol except me.
CS

Davecm203 · 01-24-2009, 07:46 PM

Wow. I bet those things are crazy loud.

NGKTECH · 01-29-2009, 08:40 PM

Those look great and pretty simple to fab up! I might have to try and make a set for myself in the next few months

Rockyrikoko · 01-29-2009, 08:55 PM

Go for it... all I did was bring 3 2" mandrel J-bends I ordered from summit to my bike shop and he cut/tacked em together. The sound by the way is not as loud as you would think. Don’t get me wrong it has volume, but no one is flipping me off as I drive by. Btw, I have been getting a ton of comments on the exhaust note, and people have been more surprised when I tell them it’s only an 800cc.

burnchassis · 01-29-2009, 10:07 PM

Id like to hear them to comapre to mine...post that video clip!
CS

profane · 01-30-2009, 01:14 PM

Those came out nice.

When I finish my kz project, im probably going to ditch the violators and make something also.

Anyhow, yours probably have a good sound with the slashes pointing more towards the ground. Going down the road hammering it should sound pretty good.

NGKTECH · 01-30-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockyrikoko

Go for it... all I did was bring 3 2" mandrel J-bends I ordered from summit to my bike shop and he cut/tacked em together. The sound by the way is not as loud as you would think. Don’t get me wrong it has volume, but no one is flipping me off as I drive by. Btw, I have been getting a ton of comments on the exhaust note, and people have been more surprised when I tell them it’s only an 800cc.

What about the flanges that connect the pipe to the heads? Did they use new ones or did they cut the stock pipe off and reuse the stock ones?

Are these the exact ones you used? Summit SUM-621005 - Summit® Exhaust Tubing Mandrel Bends - summitracing.com

Rockyrikoko · 01-30-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnchassis

Id like to hear them to comapre to mine...post that video clip!
CS

Lets see if this vid clip will post...

It didnt post... I will have to figure it out later. Gotta go to work now

Rockyrikoko · 02-01-2009, 07:49 AM

Ok, sorry for the delay in getting a video posted. I will be getting a new camera in the next few weeks so I’ll post an updated/better video at that time. In the mean time this is the best I can do. For those who care, let me know if there are any requests for the next video ie: close ups of the welds or whatever… BTW, the camera I used for this video cost $500 back in 2002.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7g2ww-roI8

NGKTECH · 02-03-2009, 06:25 PM

It says that the video is not available

smkdm50 · 02-03-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGKTECH

It says that the video is not available

x2

Rockyrikoko · 02-03-2009, 09:26 PM

Yeah i don't know what the deal is... my profile says the video has been Uploaded (processing, please wait). I thought this would only take a few minutes to an hour but apparently it a matter of days. could be because i just created this acct with youtube.

deweykeen · 02-05-2009, 10:18 PM

ok im blue collar enough im starting my project to replicate this out of the summit j bend tubing now my question is what about air fuel ratio changes cause by your pipes... what fuel processor do u use or is one not needed...

Rockyrikoko · 02-06-2009, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deweykeen

ok im blue collar enough im starting my project to replicate this out of the summit j bend tubing now my question is what about air fuel ratio changes cause by your pipes... what fuel processor do u use or is one not needed...

You have to adjust your mixture. The bike ran like garbage on the way home. I have a PCIII usb and I loaded the Hard Krome Strippers map from the Power Commander database both front and rear cylinders. The bike feels like it’s gained 10 horses (guessing) but with this map there is some black smoke which I think is an indication it’s running a bit rich.

NGKTECH · 02-06-2009, 10:59 AM

Rocky's bike has a hypercharger which may be why it didn't run well with the new exhaust.

I would think that if you are still using the stock air cleaner assembly the bike should still run fine with the new exhaust, I can;t imagin it being much different than my bike is now which is debaffled and demickeyed.

I may be also fabbing an exhaust similar to his very soon, I'll let you guys know the results and if I needed any fuel tuning (I am running stock air cleaner).

Thanks again Rocky for sharing all of this information with us. very helpful, can't wait to see your completed!

xtenzzive · 02-06-2009, 10:15 PM

Great job on pipes! Always dig on the true customizing parts people do. After I did my pipes I lost top end Rpm all together. So if you have trouble over 70mph with crazy RPM let me know that I am not alone in this bullsh*t. I can't cruise HWY after I built my 2" pipes. Using the hard krome PCIII map too.

Rockyrikoko · 02-06-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGKTECH

Rocky's bike has a hypercharger which may be why it didn't run well with the new exhaust.

I would think that if you are still using the stock air cleaner assembly the bike should still run fine with the new exhaust, I can;t imagin it being much different than my bike is now which is debaffled and demickeyed.

A surprise I ran into that you may not be taking into consideration (I didn’t) is that the stock exhaust pipe is slightly smaller than an inch in diameter. When you open that up to 2 inches it’s like an empty super highway for the exhaust to freely exit the bike.

A couple FYI items of intrest…

I used the stock exhaust flanges to make these pipes.

I’m sure the my aftermarket intake makes a huge difference. I have a hypercharger, which is more of a novelty item in and of itself but it has a k/n filter in it which allows for much higher flow than the stock filter. If you want higher flow but don’t care to change your airbox k/n now makes an aftermarket filter that is made for the M.

01-23-2009, 06:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Pipes are done! pics will soon follow. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshaped*Rerouted cables behind triple tree

01-24-2009, 06:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Pics as promised. I still have to paint and wrap them. More pics will follow for the final product. Come to find out 2" is too big to have them cross like the Violators but I'm not worried about it. The Violators were the inspiration and this is what I came up with. I love that these pipes get rid of so much of the clutter on the back end Attached Thumbnails __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshapedRerouted cables behind triple tree Last edited by Rockyrikoko; 01-24-2009 at 06:17 PM.*

01-24-2009, 06:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
DNW VZ800 Fender Buffer Join Date: Oct 2008 Bike: 08 V-Star 1300T Location: Guelph, Ontario Posts: 403	Great insight for if decide to change to custom pipes...... __________________ 2008 V-Star 1300T

01-24-2009, 06:36 PM	#24 (permalink)
burnchassis U.B's LoveChild Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2005 M50 PCIII K&N Thunder intake kit,custom pipes wrapped,DE-paired,side plate LED METZ 200 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posts: 1,217	More importantly....how does she sound? get a freakin clip posted dude! The anticipation is killin me!Looks very very nice,and the best part is NOONE ELSE HAS THAT SETUP! lol except me. CS __________________ Rippin twisties! BIG GRIND! M50 Wheelie Grinding pegs Final drive repair HOW-TO Final drive+shaft rebuild HOW-TO Getting to the front u-joint HOW-TO Remove your drive ,and CHECK IT! HOW-TO Lumpectomy HOW TO Clutch adjust HOW TO Clutch install HOW TO Metzeler 200 tire mount/ install HOW TO Lower your front end FREE! HOW TO Lower your rear end! HOW TO Still looking for the new throttle on/off switch. QUIET PIPES RISK LIVES! Last edited by burnchassis; 01-31-2009 at 05:21 PM.

01-24-2009, 07:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Davecm203 M-J Member of the Month!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Bike: 2006 GSXR750 Location: Central North Carolina Posts: 2,828	Wow. I bet those things are crazy loud. __________________

01-29-2009, 08:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
NGKTECH Ditch Magnet Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Wixom, MI USA Posts: 166	Those look great and pretty simple to fab up! I might have to try and make a set for myself in the next few months __________________ -Brandon 2007 Violet Blue M50 lowered 3" 8" black Z-bars side mount curved plate chopped rear end debaffled Black forks Custom seat mod NGK Spark Plugs (USA) 877-473-6767 option 2 (for tech support)

01-29-2009, 08:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Go for it... all I did was bring 3 2" mandrel J-bends I ordered from summit to my bike shop and he cut/tacked em together. The sound by the way is not as loud as you would think. Don’t get me wrong it has volume, but no one is flipping me off as I drive by. Btw, I have been getting a ton of comments on the exhaust note, and people have been more surprised when I tell them it’s only an 800cc. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshaped*Rerouted cables behind triple tree

01-29-2009, 10:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
burnchassis U.B's LoveChild Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2005 M50 PCIII K&N Thunder intake kit,custom pipes wrapped,DE-paired,side plate LED METZ 200 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posts: 1,217	Id like to hear them to comapre to mine...post that video clip! CS __________________ Rippin twisties! BIG GRIND! M50 Wheelie Grinding pegs Final drive repair HOW-TO Final drive+shaft rebuild HOW-TO Getting to the front u-joint HOW-TO Remove your drive ,and CHECK IT! HOW-TO Lumpectomy HOW TO Clutch adjust HOW TO Clutch install HOW TO Metzeler 200 tire mount/ install HOW TO Lower your front end FREE! HOW TO Lower your rear end! HOW TO Still looking for the new throttle on/off switch. QUIET PIPES RISK LIVES!

01-30-2009, 01:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
profane Wants Better Weather Join Date: Jul 2006 Bike: '05 M50 Location: salisbury, nc Posts: 690	Those came out nice. When I finish my kz project, im probably going to ditch the violators and make something also. Anyhow, yours probably have a good sound with the slashes pointing more towards the ground. Going down the road hammering it should sound pretty good. __________________ Don't think that just because you own a motorcycle we should be friends.

02-01-2009, 07:49 AM	#32 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Ok, sorry for the delay in getting a video posted. I will be getting a new camera in the next few weeks so I’ll post an updated/better video at that time. In the mean time this is the best I can do. For those who care, let me know if there are any requests for the next video ie: close ups of the welds or whatever… BTW, the camera I used for this video cost $500 back in 2002. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7g2ww-roI8 __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshaped*Rerouted cables behind triple tree

02-03-2009, 06:25 PM	#33 (permalink)
NGKTECH Ditch Magnet Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Wixom, MI USA Posts: 166	It says that the video is not available __________________ -Brandon 2007 Violet Blue M50 lowered 3" 8" black Z-bars side mount curved plate chopped rear end debaffled Black forks Custom seat mod NGK Spark Plugs (USA) 877-473-6767 option 2 (for tech support)

02-03-2009, 09:26 PM	#35 (permalink)
Rockyrikoko Third gear and cruising Join Date: May 2008 Bike: 2005 Black C50, 2006 Silver M50 & 2003 Victory Vegas Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Posts: 533	Yeah i don't know what the deal is... my profile says the video has been Uploaded (processing, please wait). I thought this would only take a few minutes to an hour but apparently it a matter of days. could be because i just created this acct with youtube. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current:* Chrome "Six Killer" 6061 Billet Aluminum Spike Grooved HandleBar GripsDe-pairedCustom Rocky Turndown exhaustLowered 2 ½”PCIII USBDe-stickeredClear turn signal lenses (not on rear yet)Chrome tank seam trimKüryakyn hyperchargerKüryakyn wide style leversM109r mirrorsWider/taller handle barsSilverstar ultra headlightOEM highway barsPlate mount modStock seat lumpectomy modStock seat foam replaced/reshaped*Rerouted cables behind triple tree

02-05-2009, 10:18 PM	#36 (permalink)
deweykeen Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Bike: m50 Posts: 9	ok im blue collar enough im starting my project to replicate this out of the summit j bend tubing now my question is what about air fuel ratio changes cause by your pipes... what fuel processor do u use or is one not needed...

02-06-2009, 10:59 AM	#38 (permalink)
NGKTECH Ditch Magnet Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Wixom, MI USA Posts: 166	Rocky's bike has a hypercharger which may be why it didn't run well with the new exhaust. I would think that if you are still using the stock air cleaner assembly the bike should still run fine with the new exhaust, I can;t imagin it being much different than my bike is now which is debaffled and demickeyed. I may be also fabbing an exhaust similar to his very soon, I'll let you guys know the results and if I needed any fuel tuning (I am running stock air cleaner). Thanks again Rocky for sharing all of this information with us. very helpful, can't wait to see your completed! __________________ -Brandon 2007 Violet Blue M50 lowered 3" 8" black Z-bars side mount curved plate chopped rear end debaffled Black forks Custom seat mod NGK Spark Plugs (USA) 877-473-6767 option 2 (for tech support)

02-06-2009, 10:15 PM	#39 (permalink)
xtenzzive Kickstand Operator Join Date: Jan 2008 Bike: A Boulevard Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia Posts: 293	Great job on pipes! Always dig on the true customizing parts people do. After I did my pipes I lost top end Rpm all together. So if you have trouble over 70mph with crazy RPM let me know that I am not alone in this bullsh*t. I can't cruise HWY after I built my 2" pipes. Using the hard krome PCIII map too. __________________

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