Going from 2nd to 3rd gear. - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

Zinje · 09-04-2008, 11:36 AM

Hi All,

Sometimes when i go from 2nd to 3rd gear it does not fully engage to the next gear. I hear and feel the clicking in my foot but when I release the clutch i am still in 2nd. It does not happen all the time... but to often.

Thoughts?

oak200 · 09-04-2008, 12:02 PM

Are you sure that you are letting the shifter drop all the way, if it doesn't you'll get the feeling but won't actually change the gear.

Cruzin4Life · 09-04-2008, 12:03 PM

Thats happened to me before, usually when I am really gunning it. What weight oil do you have in, I thought mine started happening after I changed my oil.

Dan

Zinje · 09-04-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzin4Life

Thats happened to me before, usually when I am really gunning it. What weight oil do you have in, I thought mine started happening after I changed my oil.

Dan

I don't know what weight it is. I had my first service done at the dealer (part of my purchase plan). Yeah mine started happening around 1100 miles after my first service at 600.

How is yours now?

Easy Rider · 09-04-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oak200

Are you sure that you are letting the shifter drop all the way, if it doesn't you'll get the feeling but won't actually change the gear.

Good call.
May need to have the shifter adjusted a tiny bit to prevent that.

ghostadv · 09-04-2008, 05:11 PM

That happens to me at stoplights when I'm in neutral and I try to get into 1st occasionally. Kind of annoying, and I don't think I'm doing anything wrong

Cruzin4Life · 09-04-2008, 05:12 PM

They have a good point, I did put on my forward controls and oil change right about the same time it started happening. My control arm might need to be adjusted.

Dan

Easy Rider · 09-04-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostadv

That happens to me at stoplights when I'm in neutral and I try to get into 1st occasionally.

Totally different problem than going from 2nd to 3rd.

mbgraham2000 · 09-04-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rider

Totally different problem than going from 2nd to 3rd.

Yeah, for this one you just need push on the shifter and let your clutch out a little and then back in again. It may grind a little but it will go in.

It has happened to me 2 or 3 times ( the neutral to first problem ). I have not seen it since I started adjusting my clutch regularly.

The from second to third problem sounds like the shifter needs to be adjusted to me as well.

Zinje · 09-04-2008, 11:45 PM

How do you adjust the shifter? I checked the owners manual and shows how to adjust the clutch but not the shifter.

Cruzin4Life · 09-05-2008, 12:01 PM

There is a little rod about 2" long right behind the shifter, I think one side threads in and one side threads out.

Dan

BlackOutSi · 09-05-2008, 01:05 PM

I had this problem a lot too, turns out I was keeping a little bit of pressure on the shift peg after shifting into second and it wasn't 'resetting' the shifterfor the next gear but felt just like it had shifted. I started taking my toe all the way off the shifter between gears and no problems since...just became natural after about a week.

Zinje · 09-05-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzin4Life

There is a little rod about 2" long right behind the shifter, I think one side threads in and one side threads out.

Dan

I see that rod. Not really sure what I should do to it. Should I turn the front or back nut. Am I suppose to hold the middle of the rod with a vice-grip?

Sorry to be so newb... i just want to do it right.

Mario · 09-05-2008, 03:20 PM

just adjust the clutch first per the manual

tdurham · 09-06-2008, 11:38 PM

My problem is a little different. My shifting has gotten much smoother now that I have 3k miles on it. However, it seems that when it "clunks" a little going from 1st to 2nd, then it will "clunk" all the way to 5th.

However, if it is a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd (meaning you don't even hear or feel it shift, very smooth), then it is a guarantee that it will be "smooth" all the way up to 5th. When it "clunks", it is like something is not quite syncronized and it is a little out of sync all the way up.

I need to read up on adjusting the clutch since I have never done that. I had the dealer change the oil when I bought it (1100 miles). It now has a hair over 3k miles so I will probably change the oil again soon (doing it myself from now on).

ghostadv · 09-07-2008, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbgraham2000

Yeah, for this one you just need push on the shifter and let your clutch out a little and then back in again. It may grind a little but it will go in.

It has happened to me 2 or 3 times ( the neutral to first problem ). I have not seen it since I started adjusting my clutch regularly.

The from second to third problem sounds like the shifter needs to be adjusted to me as well.

Oh, okay. That sounds like a simple solution. Hopefully I'll actually remember it should it happen again

305940 · 09-07-2008, 10:22 AM

Interesting. sometimes the shift from 2nd to 3d on mine isnt as smoooth as the other shifts are. have to make a more "positive" lift with the boot-top to make the shift work. wonder if its just the "Nature of the Beast"?

Easy Rider · 09-07-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tdurham

When it "clunks", it is like something is not quite syncronized and it is a little out of sync all the way up.

Strange as it sounds, I think it is probably the rider that is out of "sync".

Zinje · 09-09-2008, 08:04 PM

I adjusted my clutch. Feels easier to shift but I still sometimes get that problem shifting from 2nd to 3rd. How do I adjust that shifter?

Zinje · 09-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Also... just wondering if any of you guys changed to synthetic oil. Did it make a difference?

09-04-2008, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zinje Clunked into first gear Joined: May 2008 Bike: 2008 Black M50 Location: SoCal Rider Posts: 249	Going from 2nd to 3rd gear. Hi All, Sometimes when i go from 2nd to 3rd gear it does not fully engage to the next gear. I hear and feel the clicking in my foot but when I release the clutch i am still in 2nd. It does not happen all the time... but to often. Thoughts?

09-04-2008, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cruzin4Life Seat Tester Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Colorado Posts: 72	Thats happened to me before, usually when I am really gunning it. What weight oil do you have in, I thought mine started happening after I changed my oil. Dan __________________ 2006 BOULEVARD M50 Cobra Streetrod Pipes, K&N filter w/ AirBox mod, TechlusionFI unit, John's Kit Forward Controls, Saddlemen Drifter Saddlebags, L.E.D. Brake Modulator w/ extra Brake L.E.D. 1" Homemade lowering kit Future Mods: Seat lump, Handlebars, Risers (trying to relocate the speedo!)

09-04-2008, 05:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cruzin4Life Seat Tester Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Colorado Posts: 72	They have a good point, I did put on my forward controls and oil change right about the same time it started happening. My control arm might need to be adjusted. Dan __________________ 2006 BOULEVARD M50 Cobra Streetrod Pipes, K&N filter w/ AirBox mod, TechlusionFI unit, John's Kit Forward Controls, Saddlemen Drifter Saddlebags, L.E.D. Brake Modulator w/ extra Brake L.E.D. 1" Homemade lowering kit Future Mods: Seat lump, Handlebars, Risers (trying to relocate the speedo!)

09-05-2008, 12:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cruzin4Life Seat Tester Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Colorado Posts: 72	There is a little rod about 2" long right behind the shifter, I think one side threads in and one side threads out. Dan __________________ 2006 BOULEVARD M50 Cobra Streetrod Pipes, K&N filter w/ AirBox mod, TechlusionFI unit, John's Kit Forward Controls, Saddlemen Drifter Saddlebags, L.E.D. Brake Modulator w/ extra Brake L.E.D. 1" Homemade lowering kit Future Mods: Seat lump, Handlebars, Risers (trying to relocate the speedo!)

09-05-2008, 03:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mario Clunked into first gear Joined: Feb 2008 Bike: 06 Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 246	just adjust the clutch first per the manual __________________

09-04-2008, 12:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
oak200 Newbie Joined: Jun 2008 Bike: 2007 M109R LE Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5	Are you sure that you are letting the shifter drop all the way, if it doesn't you'll get the feeling but won't actually change the gear.

09-04-2008, 05:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
ghostadv Seat Tester Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: 2006 Suzuki M50 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 58	That happens to me at stoplights when I'm in neutral and I try to get into 1st occasionally. Kind of annoying, and I don't think I'm doing anything wrong

09-04-2008, 11:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Zinje Clunked into first gear Joined: May 2008 Bike: 2008 Black M50 Location: SoCal Rider Posts: 249	How do you adjust the shifter? I checked the owners manual and shows how to adjust the clutch but not the shifter.

09-05-2008, 01:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
BlackOutSi Where Am I ? Joined: Sep 2008 Bike: 2005 Suzuki M50 Black Posts: 30	I had this problem a lot too, turns out I was keeping a little bit of pressure on the shift peg after shifting into second and it wasn't 'resetting' the shifterfor the next gear but felt just like it had shifted. I started taking my toe all the way off the shifter between gears and no problems since...just became natural after about a week.

09-06-2008, 11:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
tdurham Seat Tester Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: 2006 Suzuki M50 / Silver Location: Southaven, MS Posts: 86	My problem is a little different. My shifting has gotten much smoother now that I have 3k miles on it. However, it seems that when it "clunks" a little going from 1st to 2nd, then it will "clunk" all the way to 5th. However, if it is a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd (meaning you don't even hear or feel it shift, very smooth), then it is a guarantee that it will be "smooth" all the way up to 5th. When it "clunks", it is like something is not quite syncronized and it is a little out of sync all the way up. I need to read up on adjusting the clutch since I have never done that. I had the dealer change the oil when I bought it (1100 miles). It now has a hair over 3k miles so I will probably change the oil again soon (doing it myself from now on). Last edited by tdurham; 09-06-2008 at 11:39 PM. Reason: left word out

09-07-2008, 10:22 AM	#17 (permalink)
305940 Newbie Joined: Aug 2008 Bike: 2008 M50 Black Location: Covington, GA Posts: 22	Interesting. sometimes the shift from 2nd to 3d on mine isnt as smoooth as the other shifts are. have to make a more "positive" lift with the boot-top to make the shift work. wonder if its just the "Nature of the Beast"? __________________ Potlikker, Southern Cruisers Riding Club Chapter #213, Central Georgia Road Captain / Second Officer myspace.com/potlikker454 "I would rather ride my Motorcycle in the rain than drive the Company truck in the sunshine"

09-09-2008, 08:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
Zinje Clunked into first gear Joined: May 2008 Bike: 2008 Black M50 Location: SoCal Rider Posts: 249	I adjusted my clutch. Feels easier to shift but I still sometimes get that problem shifting from 2nd to 3rd. How do I adjust that shifter?

09-10-2008, 12:04 AM	#20 (permalink)
Zinje Clunked into first gear Joined: May 2008 Bike: 2008 Black M50 Location: SoCal Rider Posts: 249	Also... just wondering if any of you guys changed to synthetic oil. Did it make a difference?

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