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Old 08-15-2008, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Footpegs that wont scrape?

I know I shouldnt get this low ,but I love it!
Any pegs that wont scrape? Im scared of a dig in ,and a high side one of these days.
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What are you doing to scrape the inside of the peg closest to the bike? If you're taking a corner you're going to scrape the tip of it first because that would be the lowest point, no?
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wooo! Lowww. Sorry man, but if you ride like that, ain't no peg gonna help you. I've been scraping my shiny new hot-tips on my v&h straightshots....my pegs are almost non-existant now. Maybe get a lift kit for your bike
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wooo! Lowww. Sorry man, but if you ride like that, ain't no peg gonna help you. I've been scraping my shiny new hot-tips on my v&h straightshots....my pegs are almost non-existant now. Maybe get a lift kit for your bike
That might help actually, if you took off the lowering bones and raised it back up the 2 inches you dropped it. That would probably help.
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I dont see how you get that low. I scrape my stock pipes on occasion and they dont allow me to get that low.

Never mind, I'm an idiot. I just looked at your avatar and saw your pipes. Nice pipes btw
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Old 08-15-2008, 04:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That looks like a hard lean + bump scrape. Stiffen your rear suspension. You were just a hair away from doing something like this:



... which usually is not good.

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Old 08-15-2008, 05:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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burnchassis if you have your bike lowered install the original links to return the bike to stock height. Set your rear spring to the highest setting for pre-compression or install one of the two replacement rear spring-shock assemblies from either YSS or Ohlins, which can get you a firmer shock and resultingly more ground clearance to a certain extent. Lastly you could use the Kuryakyn splined offset mounts to move your pegs up and back some as well, however if you take this choice be sure to choose a peg to fit up that is not very long.
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Old 08-15-2008, 06:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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There are mathimatical equations that show just how much contact patch is required to keep from lowsiding your bike from underneath you. With cruisers the amount of contact patch is less forgiving than sport bikes because of the added wieght. If your pegs are scraping at all it's a clear warning you are close to exceeding that mathimatical angle.

Captian Crash says "If you find yourself running out of lean, you need to find a track somewhere."

If your bike isnt a race bike on a track you are SUPPOSED to have chicken strips.

That being said have fun, and be careful.
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hogwash. There's far more lean available in those tires than the pegs allow, and Crash was probably talking about sportbikes and supermotos. You'd need only look to that video of the cops on the training course or Yellow Wolf at the dragon for evidence of even a heavier bike's abilities.

Burn, I'd ask myself whether my technique is sound. Getting your weight to the inside can dramatically increase clearance. I'd also bring it back up to stock height. You can't have it all, man.
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Hogwash. There's far more lean available in those tires than the pegs allow, and Crash was probably talking about sportbikes and supermotos. You'd need only look to that video of the cops on the training course or Yellow Wolf at the dragon for evidence of even a heavier bike's abilities.

Burn, I'd ask myself whether my technique is sound. Getting your weight to the inside can dramatically increase clearance. I'd also bring it back up to stock height. You can't have it all, man.
Wheres a link to those videos at?
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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like a friend of mine says... don't ride your cruise like a sports bike... if you want to go that low all the time and scrape the pegs (in my case my crash guard) then i should go buy a sports bike
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Hogwash. There's far more lean available in those tires than the pegs allow, and Crash was probably talking about sportbikes and supermotos. You'd need only look to that video of the cops on the training course or Yellow Wolf at the dragon for evidence of even a heavier bike's abilities.
<SIGH!> Why bother? Most of my friends ride heavy cruisers and I've seen them lean and heard them scrape. Oh wait a minute, I've owned a couple cruisers myself.....

oh how could we overlook that I actualy ride an M50. The very bike in discusion here. Yeah I have scaped a couple times recently. And each time I was pulling manuvers beyond LEGAL street limits. Same goes for my friends who I have seen scape, they were pulling manuvers on heavy cruisers beyond legal limits.

Since you brought up dragon videos I've seen at least a few of cruisers going down on the pavement in a shower of sparks and one of a big cruiser disapearing off the road. There is a famous tree out there to display reminders on of what can and will eventualy go wrong.

I know at least one person who died and at least one who may never walk again. Both had acidents in curves on heavy cruisers in less than 6 months ago.

I was simply cautioning our friend here to be aware and be careful. There is an odd new belief that seems to be catching on that if riders arent grinding down thier pegs sometimes then they just dont have the ability to ride. THAT attitude is "hogwash". How about the ocasional voice from the other side of reason that says "you dont HAVE to hammer down and ride your bike to the limits of it's (and your) abilities"?

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Joe, you seem to think that it takes illegal, high-speed, or "dangerous" to get the pegs to scrape. It doesn't. One brisk turn through a stoplight does it on a lowered M50.

I don't know why you're so underconfident in the bike's capabilities (or yours?), but I simply don't agree that only a maniac could use more clearance.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Joe, you seem to think that it takes illegal, high-speed, or "dangerous" to get the pegs to scrape. It doesn't. One brisk turn through a stoplight does it on a lowered M50.

I don't know why you're so underconfident in the bike's capabilities (or yours?), but I simply don't agree that only a maniac could use more clearance.
Just for the sake of arguement:
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The pegs could be better....
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That is the most severe scraping I have ever seen. You definitely ride hard. The most I have seen scraped was the feelers and the pipes.
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Well if your bike is lowered you might want to raise it a bit. Also try different lines going into the curves. I like to lean a lot too and do scrape pegs, the line I choose in the curve makes a big difference. Try different postures going into the curves too and if you don't, try counter-steering too. It does actually facilitate leaning but seems to be more efficient to me in getting more turn out of less lean.

I don't think you should try to not have your pegs scrape since they give. If they didn't scrape, and you got down to something that doesn't give, then you'd be in for trouble. However if you can raise them a bit but they're still the first thing to touch, that'd probably be fine.
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Haha that what my pegs/pipes/fram looks like.


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Just for the sake of arguement:
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I don't think that helps.

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I've scraped my peg feelers completly away, and I have scraped the factory pipes, and I now scrape my Hard Kromes (on occasion, I try not to do that very often because of the price of the pipes). But I have never scraped the inside of the pegs (left or right).

I want to see your "Chicken Strips", man you must have been on the edge of the envelope when you did that.



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Old 08-17-2008, 09:37 AM   #20 (permalink)
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When i was trained to ride I was told that a cruiser is always going to scrape sometimes. The instuctor even did it during figure eight training. I treat it as inevitable so all I do is drop my heel a little on the inside of the turn and when i feel that touch i know i have gone far enough and i just slightly correct. Saves wear on the pegs at the price of a small amount of shoe leather.
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