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khromalusional · 07-24-2008, 06:03 PM

Well had the bike for about 2 weeks now and ready for the 600 mile service. Still don't know if i should go synthetic (redline or royal purple) or go with just regular Valvoline 4stroke oil. Anyone switch to synthetic right after there first service? Will be doing this service tomorrow night.

boooya · 07-24-2008, 06:29 PM

I switched to Amsoil full synthetic at first service and have been running it ever since. Have over 11,000 on her now with no complaints.

07M50Limited · 07-24-2008, 06:37 PM

I switched to Rotella Syn. at 600...bike loves it and its cheap at walmart...at 4400 miles now...no prob.'s...shifts smooth, and seams to run cooler.
also put mobil 1 syn in the rear gears at 600 miles.

Ray Nielsen · 07-24-2008, 07:57 PM

I've gone to synthetics at the first change in all my bikes since 1983 with no problems. My preference is Mobil 1 15W-50 with the Gold Cap. That's the extended change version as opposed to the red cap. Still, either one is a good oil and does NOT contain friction modifiers that MIGHT cause clutch slip. Shell Rotella T Synthetic, Amsoil and probably others are good choices too. Buy whatever is handy and available in your area. I find that Wal-Mart and Target usually carry the Mobil 1 stuff and that's important on the road too.

Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and went for a ride today!

adamsboomer · 07-25-2008, 12:25 AM

Whatever you do make sure the rubber seal comes off with the old oil filter. I changed mine at night with a flashlight and accidentally didn't remove it. Put the new one on and filled her up. Idled it a while with no drips next morning i revved it to merge onto the freeway and down i went 2 qts fresh synthetic oil on the rear tire.

battypup · 07-25-2008, 12:44 AM

I tried the Royal Purple. After about 300 miles I was shifting hard and loud. Went another 200 or so and said heck with this, drained it and went to regular motorcycle oil. No problems since. I would not suggest royal purple.

geeker · 07-25-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by boooya

I switched to Amsoil full synthetic at first service and have been running it ever since. Have over 11,000 on her now with no complaints.

booya,

You use the AMSOIL 20W50 Syn. ?

07M50zAllDaWay · 07-25-2008, 12:39 PM

I purchased my bike with 2000 miles on it. It had an aftermarket oil filter, so I'm sure it was changed at least once, probably at the 600 mile service. I did my 4k service last night, and the oil was nasty. Whoever did it probably used standard 10w-40 automotive, which will not hold up in a bike. I went with Mobil-1 racing synthetic for V-twins. It's amazing the difference it makes. The noises I had started to hear are gone, even the sound the bike makes when coasting to a stop and downshifting into first gear. I will be looking to go with a cheaper synthetic next time around, but I am more than pleased with the results.

fake · 07-25-2008, 12:42 PM

I switched over to Amsoil full synthetic around 1200 miles.

Joel17368 · 07-25-2008, 04:01 PM

I just used Quaker State in the weight that the manual called for. Not synthetic or anything, just regular motor oil. Is this ok?

ranger04 · 07-25-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel17368

I just used Quaker State in the weight that the manual called for. Not synthetic or anything, just regular motor oil. Is this ok?

Is this oil for motorcycles? If not then immediatly drain it and put oil made for motorcycles in it.

Reason being is oil for cars is made for engines only, the transmission is dry. For bikes the tranny gears are cooled in the engine oil, therefore the oil is blended differant to take care of the gears to. You need motorcycle oil in there or bad things will happen

Quote:

Originally Posted by battypup

I tried the Royal Purple. After about 300 miles I was shifting hard and loud. Went another 200 or so and said heck with this, drained it and went to regular motorcycle oil. No problems since. I would not suggest royal purple.

I run royal purple in mine, have not had any problems with mine, but have heard not much in the good side so I have contiplated switching to ammsoil, but local dealers are not so local where as royal purple is sold where I work

07M50zAllDaWay · 07-28-2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger04

Is this oil for motorcycles? If not then immediatly drain it and put oil made for motorcycles in it.

Reason being is oil for cars is made for engines only, the transmission is dry. For bikes the tranny gears are cooled in the engine oil, therefore the oil is blended differant to take care of the gears to. You need motorcycle oil in there or bad things will happen

Actually it's not time to panic. Depending on the weight of the oil he used, it could be just fine. If automotive 10w-40 was used, it needs to be changed again at about 1500 miles. The shearing of the transmission gears breaks down the viscosity, so it offers little protection after 1500 miles. If 20w-50 was used, you could probably stretch the 3500-4000 mile interval. If anything was used that says "energy conserving", that would need to be drained immediately. It can cause the clutch to slip.

Joel17368 · 07-29-2008, 05:17 PM

It's cool. I just went and bought motorcycle oil and drained the old and used the moto oil. Thanks for the help.

07-24-2008, 06:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
khromalusional Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: Suzuki M50 Location: Pasco, Washington Posts: 15	time for first service Well had the bike for about 2 weeks now and ready for the 600 mile service. Still don't know if i should go synthetic (redline or royal purple) or go with just regular Valvoline 4stroke oil. Anyone switch to synthetic right after there first service? Will be doing this service tomorrow night.

07-24-2008, 06:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
boooya Third gear and cruising Joined: Sep 2007 Bike: '08 Suzuki Bandit S Location: Barrie, Ont. Canada Posts: 543	I switched to Amsoil full synthetic at first service and have been running it ever since. Have over 11,000 on her now with no complaints. __________________ M50 SOLD 2008 Bandit 1250 S stock 4 now

07-25-2008, 12:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
adamsboomer Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: m50 Posts: 10	Oops Whatever you do make sure the rubber seal comes off with the old oil filter. I changed mine at night with a flashlight and accidentally didn't remove it. Put the new one on and filled her up. Idled it a while with no drips next morning i revved it to merge onto the freeway and down i went 2 qts fresh synthetic oil on the rear tire.

07-25-2008, 12:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
battypup Ditch Magnet Joined: Apr 2007 Bike: 2006 Vulcan 1600 Classic and 1980 kz750(project) Location: OC Oregon Posts: 166	I tried the Royal Purple. After about 300 miles I was shifting hard and loud. Went another 200 or so and said heck with this, drained it and went to regular motorcycle oil. No problems since. I would not suggest royal purple. __________________

07-25-2008, 12:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
fake Ditch Magnet Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2008 Suzuki M50 Location: Roswell, New Mexico Posts: 153	I switched over to Amsoil full synthetic around 1200 miles. __________________ The first 2008 silver/black M50

07-24-2008, 06:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
07M50Limited Wants Better Weather Joined: May 2008 Bike: 2007 M50 limited Location: N.C. Posts: 674	I switched to Rotella Syn. at 600...bike loves it and its cheap at walmart...at 4400 miles now...no prob.'s...shifts smooth, and seams to run cooler. also put mobil 1 syn in the rear gears at 600 miles.

07-24-2008, 07:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ray Nielsen Seat Tester Joined: Jan 2008 Bike: 2005 Boulevard M50 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 82	I've gone to synthetics at the first change in all my bikes since 1983 with no problems. My preference is Mobil 1 15W-50 with the Gold Cap. That's the extended change version as opposed to the red cap. Still, either one is a good oil and does NOT contain friction modifiers that MIGHT cause clutch slip. Shell Rotella T Synthetic, Amsoil and probably others are good choices too. Buy whatever is handy and available in your area. I find that Wal-Mart and Target usually carry the Mobil 1 stuff and that's important on the road too. Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and went for a ride today!

07-25-2008, 04:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Joel17368 Where Am I ? Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: '07 Suzuki Boulevarde M50 Location: York, PA Posts: 29	I just used Quaker State in the weight that the manual called for. Not synthetic or anything, just regular motor oil. Is this ok?

07-29-2008, 05:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Joel17368 Where Am I ? Joined: Jul 2008 Bike: '07 Suzuki Boulevarde M50 Location: York, PA Posts: 29	It's cool. I just went and bought motorcycle oil and drained the old and used the moto oil. Thanks for the help.

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