M50 Secret Hideaway

[machdeg]

I'm especially fond of the helmet. Seems to me that might not be DOT approved.

[MotoJPizzle]

Originally Posted by jmckell

Do you wave at women on scooters?

I pass one every morning on my way to work.

I would wave at a scooter! Especially a girl on a scooter.

[xtenzzive]

Everybody here does more of a reverse Hail Hilter to the left but we all do it, less of course in mid corner, in gear don't let off the throttle just to wave cause when you almost lose it in front of another biker, that is by far the best time to have a full face helmet with mirror tint visor so that they never recognize you in public afterwards..........

['08-M50 Rider]

Passed hundreds of bikes since I bought my M50 and only between 5-10 people have ever not "waved". (wave including nods, or other gestures: I had one person that I waved to as I got to a corner and they were in mid turn so they used a blinker flash.. very classy.) Northern California is great for that though as far as i've seen. The scooter riders won't wave at you first, but if you wave at them they wave back excitedly like a kid who got a trucker to honk their horn. Great place to live/ride.

Oh and to xtenzzive:
I Had an incident like that where I was waving to this biker as I turned right as he sat at a stop sign like the second day I had this(my first) bike and consequently I ran a bit wide into his lane a few inches. The head shake he gave me still haunts me.... so ashamed...

[buster]

Originally Posted by '08-M50 Rider

The scooter riders won't wave at you first, but if you wave at them they wave back excitedly like a kid who got a trucker to honk their horn....

Yep exactly the same here, I always get a wee chuckle waving at scoots...

[cyclesinct]

Really??!! I'm the only person here who wants to kick that punk 13 yr old off the scooter as i ride by? Different people must be using scooters where I live than other places. Where I am over 90% of the scooters are young teenage kids that use them to terrorize people on sidewalks and shoot out in and out of traffic like its a game. I had two of them play chicken with me the other day, I was in my car! Damn, I'm 28 and I sound like an old man, next I'm going to be telling them to stay off my lawn!

[nativenyerintexas]

Originally Posted by phil.dye

People around Fort Riley, KS always wave. I even had some dude on a scooter (yes a real scooter, not like the slang for a bike "scooter") wave at me once. That was funny.

Why? When I had my Reflex (had it for four years) I used to wave at 'real' bikes all the time and they waved back most of those.

[nativenyerintexas]

Originally Posted by buster

Yep exactly the same here, I always get a wee chuckle waving at scoots...

It's not WHAT you ride, it's that you ride that counts. I wave to anything on two or three wheels. It doens't matter what they're riding.

Well, I wouldn't wave to this guy:



But I'd wave to this one:

[buster]

Originally Posted by nativenyerintexas

It's not WHAT you ride, it's that you ride that counts. I wave to anything on two or three wheels. It doens't matter what they're riding.

No you misunderstood, the previous post was explaining how most scooter riders get really excited when other bikers wave at them, that's what makes me chuckle, as you said it doesn't matter what they ride, they are all road brothers & sisters to me.

[BiikeMike]

Originally Posted by cyclesinct

Really??!! I'm the only person here who wants to kick that punk 13 yr old off the scooter as i ride by? Different people must be using scooters where I live than other places. Where I am over 90% of the scooters are young teenage kids that use them to terrorize people on sidewalks and shoot out in and out of traffic like its a game. I had two of them play chicken with me the other day, I was in my car! Damn, I'm 28 and I sound like an old man, next I'm going to be telling them to stay off my lawn!

I find there are two very different types of scooter riders. I believe they were referenced earlier in this thread. There are the kind you are referring to, which I believe everyone hates. I live by a university, and there are all kinds of 50cc scooters around with punks riding them that have no comprehension that they are an actual motor vehicle and need to follow the rules, and be even MORE aware than normal.

Then, there are people like my wife and I. We have a 1985 Yamaha Riva 125cc, gets 75+ MPG, and it is technically a motorcycle in Virginia. It has plates, insurance, etc. I ride it like a motorcycle, follow all the rules of the road, have a motorcycle license, etc. I wave at motorcycle riders, and most of them don't wave back. Scooter riders always wave, and wave back.

[cyclesinct]

Originally Posted by BiikeMike

I find there are two very different types of scooter riders. I believe they were referenced earlier in this thread. There are the kind you are referring to, which I believe everyone hates. I live by a university, and there are all kinds of 50cc scooters around with punks riding them that have no comprehension that they are an actual motor vehicle and need to follow the rules, and be even MORE aware than normal.

Then, there are people like my wife and I. We have a 1985 Yamaha Riva 125cc, gets 75+ MPG, and it is technically a motorcycle in Virginia. It has plates, insurance, etc. I ride it like a motorcycle, follow all the rules of the road, have a motorcycle license, etc. I wave at motorcycle riders, and most of them don't wave back. Scooter riders always wave, and wave back.

That is the actual isse I have. I don't know about elsewhere but in CT if the engine is 50cc or higher you are required to have a motorcycle lisence. I have no issues with these people because they tend to be responsible and obey the rules of the road. Anything under that you are technically supposed to have a driver's lisence. But parents buy these scoots as toys for their kids and then let them loose on city streets without any instructions at all. Those are the people I take issue with (both the parents and the kids). how you could let a 12 yr old child use a scoot that could technically keep up with town traffic without any instruction blows my mind. They might as well give them the keys to the car. At least that way the kid will have an airbag to protect them when they finally crash.

[buster]

Well, Guys, I am mortified!

Over here you have to be 16 to be able to ride a scooter or a moped up to a max of 49cc, even then you must have a provisional license and have passed the CBT (Compulsory Bike Training).

Then at 17 you can move up to a 125cc, until you pass the actual bike test. Which is actually a further 3 tests.

Over here it is much harder to qualify to ride a motorbike than it is to drive a car.

[BiikeMike]

Originally Posted by buster

Well, Guys, I am mortified!

Over here you have to be 16 to be able to ride a scooter or a moped up to a max of 49cc, even then you must have a provisional license and have passed the CBT (Compulsory Bike Training).

Then at 17 you can move up to a 125cc, until you pass the actual bike test. Which is actually a further 3 tests.

Over here it is much harder to qualify to ride a motorbike than it is to drive a car.

Here in the States, laws vary from state to state. In Virginia, TECHNICALLY you have to be 16 to ride a scooter/moped under 49cc. You are also supposed to have a valid license. If it is suspended or revoked, you can't ride a scooter. Anything 50cc or over, you have to have a motorcycle license, tag it, and have the Virginia minimum insurance.

[womper]

Originally Posted by buster

Well, Guys, I am mortified!

Over here you have to be 16 to be able to ride a scooter or a moped up to a max of 49cc, even then you must have a provisional license and have passed the CBT (Compulsory Bike Training).

Then at 17 you can move up to a 125cc, until you pass the actual bike test. Which is actually a further 3 tests.

Over here it is much harder to qualify to ride a motorbike than it is to drive a car.

i wonder if the accident/death rate is lower in the UK...

[buster]

Probly not, after all the bike rider takes 4 tests, then pulls out into a junction to be slammed into by a 17 year old hard on in his (equally a hard on) daddy's Subaru, after 4 Pish lessons and a really pish test. Who then turns to the attending officer and says (over the dead biker's corpse) "Oh sorry mate I didn't see him"

[tdurham]

I live in Southaven, MS (just south of Memphis, thankya, thankya, thankya ver much!)

This may sound silly but I think I was getting the snub once in a while from other cruisers (might have been harleys, don't know for sure) cuz I was wearing a crotch rocket type helmet on a cruiser??? I got my 1/2 helmet in yesterday which is more comfortable, looks a whole lot better and I have not got snubbed yet

Of course if I pound the pavement (which I hope to never happen) I do realize my noggin is not as well protected, but I do like wearing the 1/2 helmet with flames. Maybe I just feel like I am going faster!!

[xtenzzive]

Originally Posted by tdurham

Of course if I pound the pavement (which I hope to never happen) I do realize my noggin is not as well protected, but I do like wearing the 1/2 helmet with flames.

I pounded the pavement with my full face on, made me realize what could've happened, My face is too pretty to leave it posted on pavement!

[MotoJPizzle]

I think so too, I was riding with my half helmet and everyone was waving even trucks - but my full face seems to get me kicked out of the biker gang.

[womper]

i get snubbed by some... and i think... who cares?

i'll be able to chew my own food if i crash

[JurisM50]

Modular. Best of both worlds. Of course...there's...um..no real protection for that 45% of your "above the neck" zone that is most likely to reach "first point of impact" if you drop. (that'd be your face from the chin to the nose and back towards the cheekbones in both directions. 45% of cranial impacts from motorcycle accidents initiate in that area).

http://www.obairlann.net/reaper/moto...es/impacts.gif