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Trigger1985 · 07-15-2008, 11:09 PM

I'll be debaffling/demickeying/fibrosleeving as soon as I get back from the DMV with the M in hand... think I'll try tomorrow..

gforce76 · 07-19-2008, 10:31 AM

I've always wanted to point this out as it could be a good money saver, and do not see why it wouldn't work.

Buy a good metal cutting 3" hole saw, it will be worth it. However, as the 1 1/2 inch is only used to center the 3", I assume it could be the cheapest POS ever correct? Theoretically, it wouldn't even matter if they forgot to cut teeth in it. Seems like everyone could save some greenbacks.

1badbaker · 07-19-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gforce76

I've always wanted to point this out as it could be a good money saver, and do not see why it wouldn't work.

Buy a good metal cutting 3" hole saw, it will be worth it. However, as the 1 1/2 inch is only used to center the 3", I assume it could be the cheapest POS ever correct? Theoretically, it wouldn't even matter if they forgot to cut teeth in it. Seems like everyone could save some greenbacks.

The 1 1/2" saw does cut through the plate too. You need to cut to the plate around the outside of the baffle and around the inside of the exhaust pipe. That plate comes out looking like a donut, giving you the space you need to move the baffle around enough to break the welds.

You could only cut the 3" circle, but you wouldn't have very much wiggle space to break the welds on the backend of the baffle unless you bend back the plate around the baffle.

BiikeMike · 07-20-2008, 01:24 AM

Wow, what a great DIY! I don't have my M50 yet, but when I do, I will certainly do this!

Are there any laws about bike pipes/loudness? I know if you take the muffler off your car, it's not quite legal....

1badbaker · 07-20-2008, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiikeMike

Wow, what a great DIY! I don't have my M50 yet, but when I do, I will certainly do this!

Are there any laws about bike pipes/loudness? I know if you take the muffler off your car, it's not quite legal....

Check your state laws: State-by-state motorcycle laws

Trigger1985 · 07-20-2008, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gforce76

I've always wanted to point this out as it could be a good money saver, and do not see why it wouldn't work.

Buy a good metal cutting 3" hole saw, it will be worth it. However, as the 1 1/2 inch is only used to center the 3", I assume it could be the cheapest POS ever correct? Theoretically, it wouldn't even matter if they forgot to cut teeth in it. Seems like everyone could save some greenbacks.

I tried to save money by not buying the 1 1/2" at first, figuring i could manage to get it out without the donut removed, I was right but it took 4-5 hours of wiggling and riding to heat the weld to weaken it plus another hour of trying to get the blade to stop the 3 inch to to cut and stop bouncing. Bought the 7 dollar blade and and it took 5 minutes to cut through and remove the doughnut and 10 minutes of wiggling to pop out the baffle... so 7 dollars or $50 of my time at $10/hr.

coolal357 · 08-05-2008, 07:31 AM

This seems like a good solution to new pipes,for now, any help with the process would be helpful. I just ordered the moose fiber, maybe someone can help me thru the process,Thanks,Al

BiikeMike · 08-05-2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1badbaker

Check your state laws: State-by-state motorcycle laws

Muffler: No acoustical criteria.
Maximum Sound Level: No acoustical criteria.

Sweet.

dreygun · 08-17-2008, 08:33 PM

great tutorial!

motleywho · 11-08-2008, 12:38 PM

Hi guys! Have debaffled my bike today!

Great threads on here thanks!!

Anyone know where to get some fibreglass muffler material in the UK? I'm not sure exactly what is needed and would appreciate some pointers if anyone knows where to find the right stuff?

Cheers!

chiefriceburner · 11-09-2008, 08:30 AM

Moose Fiberglass Muffler Packing M701

diamond_jim · 11-10-2008, 04:08 PM

Just checking my thread. I hadn't looked at it in a while.

motleywho · 11-13-2008, 05:22 PM

Been a week since I debaffled!! It's awesome! I was gonna try the fibrosleeve but I'm still not sure what muffler material to get.

Thanks for the link below. But it's an American company. The shipping on that to England would be way more than the product itself! Shipping from some of the Ebay shops that sell this stuff is about £20!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefriceburner

Moose Fiberglass Muffler Packing M701

That stuff doesn't seem to be readily available in England. Is something like this likely to be similar?

Exhaust Baffle Packing Thick 50cm x 50cm Wool - Shop at Motorcycle

Again, thanks so much for these great threads and ideas! Can't believe how much better the bike sounds now. It definitely somehow makes the bike feel better!

chiefriceburner · 11-13-2008, 06:59 PM

should work fine.

motleywho · 11-14-2008, 01:36 PM

Brilliant I'll give it a go. Thanks.

synthz · 11-25-2008, 04:49 PM

Outstanding Thread!!! Everyone has posted such great information. Wasn't sure about doing anything with my pipe but after reading this I just might. Definitely a lot cheaper then buying new ones. Speaking of that how does this kind of work on the exhaust differ from the after-market pipes, aside from the obvious $$ difference?

teufulhunden07 · 12-23-2008, 04:18 PM

I was reading in an earlier post about the wire mesh and problems with heat causing rust and corrosion. Is it possible to just spray some Hi-Temp Black Spray Paint on the wire mesh after rolling to add a few years to its life? or would this pose a problem somehow. Even if there is no substantial evidence to prove this helps, if it didn't hurt it, then why not?...

nicocorea · 12-23-2008, 06:41 PM

You're right: it can't hurt, why not, go for it, etc.

But regarding the life of the fibrosleeve, I think you'll find the limiting factor is not the mesh as much as it is the fiberglass packing. If the fibrosleeve is built well, the fiberglass packing will lose its sound absorbing capability long before the mesh gives out. Especially if you get it wet (like when washing the bike). To maintain the deep grumble that I liked so much, I found that I had to replace the fibrosleeves with new ones every 2000 miles or so.

polaraptor · 01-04-2009, 02:34 AM

sweet im goin to do this to my bike right away but i cant find the instructons....help plz!! i already debaffed bout a year ago and gettin bored what other mods compliment these bikes??? anyone done a hypercharger?

Mantissa · 05-03-2009, 10:15 PM

I recently installed some fibrosleeves and just wanted to pass on a helpful hint for those asking about what type of muffler packing to use.

For my first attempt I tried to use the only muffler packing available at my local bike shop. Unfortunately it was extremely fiberous (if thats a word) and was almost impossible to shove into the exhaust pipe. It kept catching on the interior walls and just started falling apart after only a few tries.

For my second attempt I ordered the muffler packing available at Motorcycle-Superstore and it worked MUCH better. One side the fiberglass had a smooth, more rigid, coating of some sort which allowed it to slide right in.

The first picture of white fiberglass is option #1, which I threw in the garbage. The second picture is option #2 which worked much better. Anyway, just my $.02, hopefully this saves somebody a hassle.

07-15-2008, 11:09 PM	#101 (permalink)
Trigger1985 Third gear and cruising Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 530	I'll be debaffling/demickeying/fibrosleeving as soon as I get back from the DMV with the M in hand... think I'll try tomorrow.. __________________ Places to ride: Beartooth Pass, Deals Gap, Yellowstone, The Dakotas 2008 Suzuki M50 Custom Painted Satin Black an Sublime Green, OEM Engine Guard, MJ limited Risers, home brew light bar with driving lights, debadged, Küryakyn ISO flame grips, drag specialties clamp on highway pegs, custom crosshair radiator cover, lowered two inches with a set of stock pipes painted black and debaffled, demickeyed and chopped. In storage-Küryakyn XL saddlebags, Spitfire Windshield, Sissy bar/back rest, hand tooled sissybar pad cover,

08-05-2008, 07:31 AM	#107 (permalink)
coolal357 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Bike: suzuki M-50 2008 Location: hillsborough,nj Posts: 18	making sweet music This seems like a good solution to new pipes,for now, any help with the process would be helpful. I just ordered the moose fiber, maybe someone can help me thru the process,Thanks,Al

08-17-2008, 08:33 PM	#109 (permalink)
dreygun Found second gear by accident Join Date: Aug 2008 Bike: 2006 Dust Black M50 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Posts: 340	great tutorial! __________________ Tom Poh @ Dreygunz Decalz Custom Stickers/ Banners 2006 dust black debadged M50/ kury iso-grips ( with throttle boss, grip spikes, front & back pegs, clutch & brake covers)/ chrome accents (oil and brake cap)/ garmin Zumo 550 Gps/ Stock pipes (debaffled, demickey'd, blacked out header side)/ leather saddlebags & supports/ sissy bar & rack/ memphis fat 13" clear/ roadrunner cup holder/ HD fork pouch/ PC3/ 32" drag bar/ sidemount curved plate mount/ clear signals/ johnskit 3in lowering/ chrome rad cover/ Integrated signal back light kit/ removed OEM back signals and license housing/ Sickle Stem Lucifer Mirrors/ kury ultra tour bag/ JK's forward controls, GMAN's lean angle draggers (gen2), "07M50Limited" riser spacers. Coming soon: Custom leather saddle seat, Thunder Air/ adaptor, Morton violator/ Highway Hawks exhaust

11-10-2008, 04:08 PM	#112 (permalink)
diamond_jim M-J Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Bike: Thumper Location: North Alabama Posts: 3,813	Just checking my thread. I hadn't looked at it in a while. __________________

12-23-2008, 04:18 PM	#117 (permalink)
teufulhunden07 Lance Corporal Coppertone Join Date: Oct 2008 Bike: 2005 Boulevard C50T Location: Alabama Posts: 371	Reinforcing the Wire Mesh I was reading in an earlier post about the wire mesh and problems with heat causing rust and corrosion. Is it possible to just spray some Hi-Temp Black Spray Paint on the wire mesh after rolling to add a few years to its life? or would this pose a problem somehow. Even if there is no substantial evidence to prove this helps, if it didn't hurt it, then why not?... __________________ Lance Corporal Skillman, Saving the world one block of C4 at a time Who decided to start hitting a ball with a stick in order to ring a hole 300+ yards away??... Suzuki Boulevard C50T: Fully Debaffled Pipes // Home Fabricated 2" Lowers // Home Fabricated Tag Laydown Mod // Tank and Fender Chrome Trim // Pair Valve Removel Kit // "C50T" Emblem Debadged

07-19-2008, 10:31 AM	#102 (permalink)
gforce76 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Bike: 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M-50 Location: Kansas Posts: 21	I've always wanted to point this out as it could be a good money saver, and do not see why it wouldn't work. Buy a good metal cutting 3" hole saw, it will be worth it. However, as the 1 1/2 inch is only used to center the 3", I assume it could be the cheapest POS ever correct? Theoretically, it wouldn't even matter if they forgot to cut teeth in it. Seems like everyone could save some greenbacks.

07-20-2008, 01:24 AM	#104 (permalink)
BiikeMike Where Am I ? Join Date: Jul 2008 Bike: not purchased yet Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 35	Wow, what a great DIY! I don't have my M50 yet, but when I do, I will certainly do this! Are there any laws about bike pipes/loudness? I know if you take the muffler off your car, it's not quite legal....

11-08-2008, 12:38 PM	#110 (permalink)
motleywho Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Bike: Suzuki Intruder C800 Posts: 3	Hi guys! Have debaffled my bike today! Great threads on here thanks!! Anyone know where to get some fibreglass muffler material in the UK? I'm not sure exactly what is needed and would appreciate some pointers if anyone knows where to find the right stuff? Cheers!

11-09-2008, 08:30 AM	#111 (permalink)
chiefriceburner Kickstand Operator Join Date: Dec 2007 Bike: 2008 Suzuki M50 Black Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 265	Moose Fiberglass Muffler Packing M701

11-13-2008, 06:59 PM	#114 (permalink)
chiefriceburner Kickstand Operator Join Date: Dec 2007 Bike: 2008 Suzuki M50 Black Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 265	should work fine.

11-14-2008, 01:36 PM	#115 (permalink)
motleywho Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Bike: Suzuki Intruder C800 Posts: 3	Brilliant I'll give it a go. Thanks.

11-25-2008, 04:49 PM	#116 (permalink)
synthz Seat Tester Join Date: Sep 2008 Bike: 2008 Suzuki M50 Location: Euless, TX Posts: 69	Outstanding Thread!!! Everyone has posted such great information. Wasn't sure about doing anything with my pipe but after reading this I just might. Definitely a lot cheaper then buying new ones. Speaking of that how does this kind of work on the exhaust differ from the after-market pipes, aside from the obvious $$ difference?

12-23-2008, 06:41 PM	#118 (permalink)
nicocorea Puddle Runner Join Date: Apr 2008 Bike: 2008 VZ800/Z Black Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 375	You're right: it can't hurt, why not, go for it, etc. But regarding the life of the fibrosleeve, I think you'll find the limiting factor is not the mesh as much as it is the fiberglass packing. If the fibrosleeve is built well, the fiberglass packing will lose its sound absorbing capability long before the mesh gives out. Especially if you get it wet (like when washing the bike). To maintain the deep grumble that I liked so much, I found that I had to replace the fibrosleeves with new ones every 2000 miles or so.

01-04-2009, 02:34 AM	#119 (permalink)
polaraptor Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Bike: 07 c50 boulevard debaffed,chipped,cruise,tank devider,4" highway hawk risers,case guards Location: manitoba canada Posts: 3	sweet im goin to do this to my bike right away but i cant find the instructons....help plz!! i already debaffed bout a year ago and gettin bored what other mods compliment these bikes??? anyone done a hypercharger?

05-03-2009, 10:15 PM	#120 (permalink)
Mantissa Seat Tester Join Date: Feb 2009 Bike: '05 M50 Blue Location: Minneapolis Area Posts: 98	I recently installed some fibrosleeves and just wanted to pass on a helpful hint for those asking about what type of muffler packing to use. For my first attempt I tried to use the only muffler packing available at my local bike shop. Unfortunately it was extremely fiberous (if thats a word) and was almost impossible to shove into the exhaust pipe. It kept catching on the interior walls and just started falling apart after only a few tries. For my second attempt I ordered the muffler packing available at Motorcycle-Superstore and it worked MUCH better. One side the fiberglass had a smooth, more rigid, coating of some sort which allowed it to slide right in. The first picture of white fiberglass is option #1, which I threw in the garbage. The second picture is option #2 which worked much better. Anyway, just my $.02, hopefully this saves somebody a hassle. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Debaffled + Fibrosleeve, Memphis Shades Alley Cat, rear fender bra, Cobra bungee knobs, integrated tail, LED turn signals

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