custom crash bars........

[caz]

i designed these and had them machined and welded at a shop. cost me a lil less than
$150 cdn.

[NateHarris]

while these *might* keep the asphalt off the tank/engine I have to wonder if they are stout enough to not bend (or break off entirely). And if not are you introducing risk to your leg by having these little poles jutting out of the side of your bike that look as though they will fold back the moment they come in contact with moving roadway.

I realize *style* was the motivator here, and judging from the headlamp assembly safety isn't a paramount concern of yours, but I would hate to hear about a really nasty wound or fracture caused by unsafe homemade stuff on your bike.

[Whiskey_williams]

man that's pretty cool! I bet you turn ALOT of heads with that set up. You outta call that thing the Dragula lol

[Rockhead]

That looks cool Caz, it's awesome to see something other than store bought bolt on.

[Zoe Dotes]

Very cool looking mods. The bars would be optional foot rests, and that light is a great touch!

Now, just keep the shiny side up!

[gottowin]

Man I could have used them today!! Check out my thred;

http://http://www.motorcycle-journal...-driveway.html

[outlaw]

i like those crash bars. very cool!!!!

[digitalbroccoli]

I like them on a show bike, but on something driven on the road, that's a dangerous setup to run, with very little structural integrity or bracing to keep weight off the motor.

[profane]

we don't even know what material those are made from to even make the call's that have been made.


Until, we know that, they could be just as good or just as BAD as any crash bar on the market.

Not to mention,

I've seen thread's here and elsewhere of after market crash bars that have broken lose with claims that the bike has never even went down. Explain that, then make your judgements based upon the type of steel, wall thickness, weld integrity, design and placement. Until then...

those r un-edgeucated guessus....


If you really think about it, a crash bar is nothing more than rolled tubing welded to two brackets which then bolted to the frame. I really see no difference here other than design. But the concept is all the same.


I personally don't care for crash bars....

And for the headlight, we do not know the specs of it. It could be more stable and brighter than the stock lamp. How do you know? Personally I don't care for it, but that has nothing to do with safety.

[ranger04]

Originally Posted by profane

we don't even know what material those are made from to even make the call's that have been made.


Until, we know that, they could be just as good or just as BAD as any crash bar on the market.

Not to mention,

I've seen thread's here and elsewhere of after market crash bars that have broken lose with claims that the bike has never even went down. Explain that, then make your judgements based upon the type of steel, wall thickness, weld integrity, design and placement. Until then...

those r un-edgeucated guessus....


If you really think about it, a crash bar is nothing more than rolled tubing welded to two brackets which then bolted to the frame. I really see no difference here other than design. But the concept is all the same.


I personally don't care for crash bars....

And for the headlight, we do not know the specs of it. It could be more stable and brighter than the stock lamp. How do you know? Personally I don't care for it, but that has nothing to do with safety.

X2 on this comment-concerning to the safety of the bars and the light
Bike looks good-keep up the good work

[SNAFU]

You should shape them so they look like rib bones.

[NateHarris]

For all I know it's Titanium, but I doubt it for $150 fabbed at a local shop. I am just saying, its welded on one end, it has physics working against it (leverage) when you drop it at speed. Then when that happens your body will be moving forward as I suspect those bars are moving backwards, relatively. Every aftermarket set I have seen is a single mandrel bent bar welded at two points. This is important when those bars need to retain shape as the bikes weight is trying to drive the bar into the asphalt at 55 mph.

But, for all I know, none of my concerns are valid. That's cool. Shutting up now.

[aliefj96]

Originally Posted by outlaw

i like those crash bars. very cool!!!!

[digitalbroccoli]

oh heavens, the PC police is here. and apparently they don't understand physics and geometry.

Single point bars like those have no resistance to twisting or bending other than where they mount to the bike. Whereas conventional crash bars are rounded and "boxed" if you will, providing additional torsional rigidity.

In a slide, a rounded bar will tend to not "grab" the surface its sliding on as well, whereas that sort of design is not going to slide. Its either going to collapse, and the bike will then slide on its side, or its going to grab/dig into the pavement or ground, which could actually launch the bike into a roll.

I understand that you guys are trying to be nice, but I'm not making an uneducated guess and trying to flame the guy, I'm making a statement based on how the laws of physics behave. There's a reason noone makes that style of crash bar, as the design is inherently unsafe.

[Ron L]

I wonder if those pipes whistle in 3-part harmony above 30 mph.

[profane]

Valid point. It didn't occur to me at the time about the bars digging in and actually launching the bike instead of sliding. Or halting the bike allowing you to slam into it rather than sliding ahead of you. In my experience I much rather to have it sliding ahead of me.


Im not nay saying anyone. Just throwing my 2 pennies around like someone would care. But hell, to most Im not a "safe" rider anyhow (i don't wear gear so to speak, nor like 'bling'), so to those my thoughts amount to nothing. Im a welder and based my comments upon what I read without thinking of other possible factors. But there is only one way to find out and that's a test run!


Im curious though, wouldn't the Lindby (is that right?) bars react the same way? They are similar except for the bottom end being rounded. They do open up the same possibility with there design.

[caz]

Thanks Guys I Really Appreciate The Mixed Feed Back I Got,also Appreciate The Concern Of It Not Being Safe But I Believe In Fate And If Your Crazy Enough To Ride A Motorbike You Wouldnt Care About Hurts And Wounds.as For The Bars Its Mostly For Show.besides Ive Been Riding Since I Was 16,ill Be 28 In A Couple
Months And I Nvr Wiped Out Or Ever Dropped A Bike And Hopefully I Nvr Will.
By Da Way The Whole Jig Is Stainless Steel.and Snafu's Idea Of Shaping Them As Rib Bones Has Me Thinking

God Bless And Ride Safe

[Whiskey_williams]

Yea, the way I see it, if my bike's going down, something's getting messed up. I like them cuz they look cool. I LOVE the lindby bars cuz they look AWESOME. Will they protect my bike? Maybe, maybe not. Will they look good going down the road? You bet!

[caz]

Exactly.........might Save You Or Not.but It Sure Does Look Good.
By The Way Guys Let Me Know If Any Crash Bar Manufacturers Guarantee Your Safety By Purchasing Their Product.

[digitalbroccoli]

ah, you've ridden 12 years without wiping out. I didn't realize that, and you're right, you're probably a good enough rider to never crash by now.

OF course no crash bar maker guarantees your safety, and that's a silly statement, designed to get a reaction.

Riding a motorcycle safely is about minimizing risk. My point is, by sticking those things on there, you're adding to the risk factor, and not really adding anything other than looks.

I always thought the idea of crash bars was to protect the bike, and that design is inherently flawed from that standpoint.