why the M50 seat is so bad! - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

peter-reebok · 02-04-2007, 10:43 PM

First off - apologies to rencrn8 This is nothing to do with your build, but one of your photos highlighted the problem, so I will use it to illustrate this post.

The M50 seat is too short.

Have a look at this image, and you can see it is too small for the ave bloke.

Most of our photos are taken when we are off the bike.

It was bleedingly obvious when I looked at this photo.

scrimmer · 02-04-2007, 10:48 PM

It is really obvious here. Anybody come across a good replacement yet?
I'm talking a true SOLO seat, not the kind with the faux stretched out pillion behind it, that's not useable by a passenger even if you wanted. I'm looking for a single seat replacement.

geoffsimpson · 02-05-2007, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrimmer

It is really obvious here. Anybody come across a good replacement yet?
I'm talking a true SOLO seat, not the kind with the faux stretched out pillion behind it, that's not useable by a passenger even if you wanted. I'm looking for a single seat replacement.

Here you go fellers...I hear it's really comfortable

Apertureguy · 02-05-2007, 01:16 PM

Wow...worst part is...I remember seeing those seats as a kid.

geoffsimpson · 02-05-2007, 01:18 PM

As long as you didn't see them on your bike, your ok

Cruisimus Prime · 02-05-2007, 02:03 PM

Is the back end of that bike lowered a bit? I've noticed that a few people that have had issues with the seat have lowered their bikes. I haven't had issues with mine (4 hour ride was my longest, though...), but I also haven't lowered it or anything.
After lowering the bike, it looks like you're sitting at quite a bit of a different angle than you are without it lowered. It's going to press on your tailbone a bit differently than with the factory setting.
These are just my two cents.

peter-reebok · 02-05-2007, 04:39 PM

I have altered the shape of the underlying foam (to make it flatter), added an extra 3/4 of high compression foam, and made a butt buffer from sheepskin.

Sunday I start my 4 day trip (3500km) so will report back when this is finished over - with a report and pics.

SNAFU · 02-05-2007, 05:15 PM

I think it's how you're sitting on the seat. The stock seat doesn't push you up and give you the feel of sitting "in" the seat but rather "on" the seat. VTX owners have this problem too.

Custom seats have that bucket style where it keeps your tailbone away from the hard back end.

No really big problems with the seat but understand how it can become uncomfortable in long rides. I'm going to do this mod come spring.
VTXOA / VTXRiders.com :: View topic - seat mod pictures

I hope I don't fudge it up, but I guess that would be a good reason to get myself a new seat.

JoeB · 02-05-2007, 06:45 PM

These guys got the best price on the Corbin solo seat Oneida Suzuki Inc :: Cruisers :: Boulevard M50 :: Seats :: CORBIN CLASSIC SOLO M50 2005-07

scrimmer · 02-05-2007, 11:05 PM

Hey thanks for pointing me over to Oneida's site. Although I got to say on first glance i don't care for the button tab looking thing on top or the cross seam across the middle of it. I'll check out Corbin's site to see if I can get a better look at it.

scrimmer · 02-05-2007, 11:08 PM

Oh yeah, and geoffsimpson - quit stealing the kiddie's seats!

peter-reebok · 02-05-2007, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by geoffsimpson

Here you go fellers...I hear it's really comfortable

I had one of those on my bike in the 70's, and the extended forks, and the metalflake paint!.

Boy does that bring back memories! We all wanted to be dennis hopper!

geoffsimpson · 02-05-2007, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrimmer

Oh yeah, and geoffsimpson - quit stealing the kiddie's seats!

Shhh...don't tell

geoffsimpson · 02-05-2007, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-reebok

I had one of those on my bike in the 70's, and the extended forks, and the metalflake paint!.

Boy does that bring back memories! We all wanted to be dennis hopper!

You've come so far Peter....you've come very far indeed

peter-reebok · 02-06-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by geoffsimpson

You've come so far Peter....you've come very far indeed

Not really - I have the same girlfriend! (now my wife)

But I do have more toys!

Don M50limited · 02-06-2007, 09:00 AM

I remember those banana seats as well, on my old Schwinn stingray. With those seats you could ride sitdown wheelies for about as far as there was road. But thankfully they also came with no flowers LOL

Apertureguy · 02-06-2007, 09:10 AM

Don.....I had the 3-speed (yellow) stingray myself. It had the thinner tires, and a racing slick in the back.

I rode that thing to its death, having the frame snap in half (after a wicked jump).

Even though I welded her together again, she just wasn't the same.

**intimid8er** · 02-06-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Apertureguy

Don.....I had the 3-speed (yellow) stingray myself. It had the thinner tires, and a racing slick in the back.

I rode that thing to its death, having the frame snap in half (after a wicked jump).

Even though I welded her together again, she just wasn't the same.

The thought of an eleven year old trying to weld a frame back together just makes me laugh. How poor them welds would be!!!

I believe bad welds are called Pigeon Sh*t or something of the sort right? I can see the bad welds around the bike. It sagging in the middle. Welds just awful. I picture this little kid standing in a photo with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth, in a white t-shirt, welders mask (up of course), and an acetylene torch in the hand (for effect). The caption..."I'll gitter dun!"

Apertureguy · 02-09-2007, 10:55 AM

You were there too?

**intimid8er** · 02-09-2007, 11:00 AM

Hell yeah....

I've sent many a poor Huffy to it's grave!!

02-04-2007, 10:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
peter-reebok Wants Better Weather Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: was Suzuki M50 - Now M109 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 672	why the M50 seat is so bad! First off - apologies to rencrn8 This is nothing to do with your build, but one of your photos highlighted the problem, so I will use it to illustrate this post. The M50 seat is too short. Have a look at this image, and you can see it is too small for the ave bloke. Most of our photos are taken when we are off the bike. It was bleedingly obvious when I looked at this photo. Attached Thumbnails

02-04-2007, 10:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
scrimmer Third gear and cruising Joined: Nov 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Grey Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 507	It is really obvious here. Anybody come across a good replacement yet? I'm talking a true SOLO seat, not the kind with the faux stretched out pillion behind it, that's not useable by a passenger even if you wanted. I'm looking for a single seat replacement. __________________ *I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused.*

02-05-2007, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
geoffsimpson Throttle Jockey Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: Grey, not silver, GREY 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M50 * 1983 GS750E Cafe Racer project Location: Prince George BC Posts: 3,126	As long as you didn't see them on your bike, your ok __________________ Please Note: All opinions contained herein are worth exactly what you paid for them. It's true that every time you hear a bell ring, an angel gets its wings... But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap "snap", and Angel gets set on fire... Grey * De-badged * V & H Straightshots w/ Thunder-Monster Baffles and Billet Hot-Tips * POWAH COMMANDAH!! * Kury Wide Style Levers * Kury Zombie Pegs (what's left of them) * Johnskit Forward Controls * Johnskit 2.5" Lowering Kit * Carbon Fibre-esque Trim kit * your mom * Memphis Shades HellCat windshield * Passenger Backrest * Baddass MO-FO behind the bars * Metz 880's w/ lettering * Flamed Thunder MFG Teardrop Intake *

02-05-2007, 05:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
SNAFU Just Won't Go Away ! Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Black Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 5,006	I think it's how you're sitting on the seat. The stock seat doesn't push you up and give you the feel of sitting "in" the seat but rather "on" the seat. VTX owners have this problem too. Custom seats have that bucket style where it keeps your tailbone away from the hard back end. No really big problems with the seat but understand how it can become uncomfortable in long rides. I'm going to do this mod come spring. VTXOA / VTXRiders.com :: View topic - seat mod pictures I hope I don't fudge it up, but I guess that would be a good reason to get myself a new seat. __________________

02-05-2007, 11:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
scrimmer Third gear and cruising Joined: Nov 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Grey Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 507	Hey thanks for pointing me over to Oneida's site. Although I got to say on first glance i don't care for the button tab looking thing on top or the cross seam across the middle of it. I'll check out Corbin's site to see if I can get a better look at it. __________________ *I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused.*

02-05-2007, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Apertureguy Throttle Jockey Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	Wow...worst part is...I remember seeing those seats as a kid.

02-05-2007, 02:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cruisimus Prime Seat Tester Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: Blue Suzuki M50 Location: Southern, IN Posts: 84	Is the back end of that bike lowered a bit? I've noticed that a few people that have had issues with the seat have lowered their bikes. I haven't had issues with mine (4 hour ride was my longest, though...), but I also haven't lowered it or anything. After lowering the bike, it looks like you're sitting at quite a bit of a different angle than you are without it lowered. It's going to press on your tailbone a bit differently than with the factory setting. These are just my two cents.

02-05-2007, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
peter-reebok Wants Better Weather Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: was Suzuki M50 - Now M109 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 672	I have altered the shape of the underlying foam (to make it flatter), added an extra 3/4 of high compression foam, and made a butt buffer from sheepskin. Sunday I start my 4 day trip (3500km) so will report back when this is finished over - with a report and pics.

02-05-2007, 06:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
JoeB Seat Tester Joined: May 2006 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: Chicopee,Ma. Posts: 93	These guys got the best price on the Corbin solo seat Oneida Suzuki Inc :: Cruisers :: Boulevard M50 :: Seats :: CORBIN CLASSIC SOLO M50 2005-07

02-05-2007, 11:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
scrimmer Third gear and cruising Joined: Nov 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Grey Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 507	Oh yeah, and geoffsimpson - quit stealing the kiddie's seats! __________________ *I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused.*

02-06-2007, 09:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
Don M50limited Third gear and cruising Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: 07 Suzuki M50 Limited, 01 yz250f Location: Fairfield, Ca Posts: 493	I remember those banana seats as well, on my old Schwinn stingray. With those seats you could ride sitdown wheelies for about as far as there was road. But thankfully they also came with no flowers LOL

02-06-2007, 09:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
Apertureguy Throttle Jockey Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	Don.....I had the 3-speed (yellow) stingray myself. It had the thinner tires, and a racing slick in the back. I rode that thing to its death, having the frame snap in half (after a wicked jump). Even though I welded her together again, she just wasn't the same.

02-09-2007, 10:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
Apertureguy Throttle Jockey Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	You were there too?

02-09-2007, 11:00 AM	#20 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 30 41'47.99" N 83 11'26.54" W Hold My Beer Posts: 10,078	Hell yeah.... I've sent many a poor Huffy to it's grave!! __________________ Song Pick of the Week 11/26 The Boss - Johnny 99 I had no idea 20% ABV beer could get me drunk so fast!

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