Braided lines

[peter-reebok]

Arrived during the week - just fitted them, so thought I would post some pics.

Easy 30 minute change - easy bleed - haven't noticed a major change - but the hose itself moves a lot more than the old one did.

Due for a ride tomorrow - raining today, and many other jobs await as well!.

[peter-reebok]

did a 250 km ride today.

feel has improved out of sight, The gain in feel makes the brakes better than what they are (really need that second disk on the front).

Very happy with the performance of these lines (goodridge) would recommend to anyone, and can only wonder why the manufacturer doesn't fit them as std.

[Anthony]

Looks good. When I get some time, I want to do this as well.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by peter-reebok

wonder why the manufacturer doesn't fit them as std.

Cost, of course. Most riders never know what they're missing, so there's no point in Suzuki spending the money.

[Oldgoat]

From whom did you buy them? Is it the same length as your old OEM one?
I'm looking for a ss line 2-3" longer as I have changed my handlebars.

[peter-reebok]

Bought them from JP Cycles.

They are the same length as the stock ones.

[Oldgoat]

Did you have to tell them the length?

They told me they did not know the length of the OEM M50 one & I would have to measure it.

I did not pursue it with them as I didn't know whether to give them the actual hose length or the hose + banjo length.

I'll have to think more about it.

[peter-reebok]

Part number from JP Cycles was ZZ27146 - Front Brake Line Kit

[Oldgoat]

[SNAFU]

Sorry, dumb question.

What do braided lines actually do?

[peter-reebok]

Rubber lines will swell when you apply the brake pressure. This is not an issue, but as the pistons move, the hoses swell less. This varying pressure removes the feel from the braking process, and means that it is very hard to hold the brake on the edge of locking.
Braided lines do not swell, therfrore the pressure in the cylinders/lines/calipers remains constant, enabling harder braking to be used, as the wheel doesn't change from locked/unlocked during the process.

They just add feel. They do not create a magical improvement in the brakes.
but..... You find you will add more front brake, as you can feel what the brakes are doing. Hence, brake performance appears to go up.

[outlaw]

i agree. since i put mine on i feal more confident in my brakes....

[Oldgoat]

I just ordered a Goodrich 42" ss braided hose & banjos from J&P. This is 3.5" longer than stock as I have installed bars with more pullback. Will see how it goes.

[aussierider]

My mechanic told me yesterday that he has had endless discussions with Suzuki Australia about the inadequate braking on this bike. Their stock answer is "the braking on the bike is adequate for the type of riding this bike is designed for". In other words we are supposed to be crawling around at pushbike speeds, and 150km/hr on a cruiser is a lot slower than 150km/hr on a sports bike!

I took out a Yamaha YZ6 loan bike yesterday while the M50 was having it's 6000 service. Locked up the rear brake 3 times before I got the hang back of decent brakes, and I thought I was using gentle and careful rear brake pressure. Wasn't game to use more than two fingers on the brake lever. Be wary if you jump on another bike if the M50 has been your ride for a while.

Incidentally PR, Mick Hone MC (Box Hill) makes up braided SS brake lines himself on site as required. Any colour and sleeved apparently. I'm going to check it out later on cost.

[jpwM50]

Here's a good thread on brake lines.:
http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/fo...812-post2.html

[SNAFU]

Originally Posted by peter-reebok

Rubber lines will swell when you apply the brake pressure. This is not an issue, but as the pistons move, the hoses swell less. This varying pressure removes the feel from the braking process, and means that it is very hard to hold the brake on the edge of locking.
Braided lines do not swell, therfrore the pressure in the cylinders/lines/calipers remains constant, enabling harder braking to be used, as the wheel doesn't change from locked/unlocked during the process.

They just add feel. They do not create a magical improvement in the brakes.
but..... You find you will add more front brake, as you can feel what the brakes are doing. Hence, brake performance appears to go up.

Thanks Pete!