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brontobill · 09-10-2006, 11:09 AM

Hey folks,
I am a new rider, currently the owner of a 250 Nighthawk, been watching these forums for a few weeks (trolling?). I am looking to purchase a bike in a few months and I am leaning heavily towards the M50. Until yesterday, I had never actually seen the bike in person. My local dealer finally got one in though, and I liked it even more in person. But instead of making it an easy decision, my dealer complicated matters by introducing me to the Hyosung GV650. I spent all day yesterday checking out the little bit of information there is about this Korean bike, and I am torn now. I know that this is probably not the best place to get an unbiased opinion, but I would really value a weigh-in from you folks.

Thanks

enjoyIT · 09-10-2006, 12:27 PM

i can't say anything about the GV but i will say you will not be disapointed if you go with the M she is one sweet ride

Davejb · 09-10-2006, 01:38 PM

I traded my 06 Vulcan 750 for an 06 M50 and I'm glad I did, it's a great bike, very stable and comfortable, I would highly recommend it!

Rockhead · 09-10-2006, 02:08 PM

This guy has one but hasn’t posted for a while. http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/fo...hlight=Hyosung

What ever you decide good luck

BigRed1 · 09-10-2006, 03:50 PM

If you buy the Korean bike overtime I believe you will wish you bought the M. 800cc is just right for handling all types of traffice issues when HP is needed. I see this bike as underpowered and this could be an issue. Just my two yen.

Iceman99 · 09-10-2006, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRed1

If you buy the Korean bike overtime I believe you will wish you bought the M. 800cc is just right for handling all types of traffice issues when HP is needed. I see this bike as underpowered and this could be an issue. Just my two yen.

Even thou its only a 650cc it has more HP than the M50. 67HP and 20lbs lighter

outlaw · 09-10-2006, 06:02 PM

heres my 2 wan pappasan. go for the M. too bad you can't get a red one. they are the fastest of all M's produced. that korean job probably runs on soju though. i know that is cheaper than gas although it's probably harder to get here in the states.....

brontobill · 09-10-2006, 09:05 PM

Even thou its only a 650cc it has more HP than the M50. 67HP and 20lbs lighter
If you buy the Korean bike overtime I believe you will wish you bought the M. 800cc is just right for handling all types of traffice issues when HP is needed. I see this bike as underpowered and this could be an issue.
This is what it comes down to for me. Both of the bikes look awesome IMO, and what I would really like is a bike that is going to be a thrill to ride as well as look good. I have heard two different stories about the M50, it's either pokey or a rocket. One site has it's quarter mile time at 15.5 and another shows 14. I also am not quite sure about the benefits of torque versus horsepower. Also belt drive versus shaft.

P.S. I gotta say, black looked pretty damn fast at the dealer.

Sullyboo · 09-10-2006, 10:12 PM

Nice looking bike but not my style, to much crome and looks like a V-Rod. I am not a fan of V-Rods either.

919Hooligan · 09-11-2006, 12:07 AM

In cycle world tests the M ran a 14.29@ 88mph, bone stock. I have done some investigation into the Hyosung myself, and I saw an article that claimed 20 some odd lb ft of torque and 71 hp. According to cycle world, the M is 45 hp and 44 lbft of torque. So, coming off the stoplight the M will feel gutsier, but the Hyosung has quite a pull on top end. In the end, the GV may run a little quicker through the quarter (.5 seconds at most) but the M will be better all around. If your gonna be running the snot out of it constantly you may like the top end of the GV. I personally like the look of the M better, but thats up to you. Just fyi, Hyosung has been building bikes for years (est. 1978, started making parts for suzuki in 1979), some that were rebadged as suzuki's in other markets. Thier 650 v-twin is basically a copy of the Suzuki SV650 v-twin, but carbureted. The overall quality of the bikes is supposedly pretty darn good, with an outstanding factory warranty (two years I believe). Plus it's got good cornering clearance, dual front/single rear disc brakes, a factory 2:1 exhaust, dealer optional performance muffler (which I hear improves torque a little at low revs), and some other accessories. It also seems that the company has a huge financial backing that has already put in place a fine network of warehouses to house parts, so that even though it's a new bike, parts availability won't be a problem. Plus, msrp is $6199. I'm actually interested in thier half faired sport bike, the GT650S. 79hp for $5399, and it's gorgeous. Check out Hyosung Motors America .

p.s. I still love my M, but if you want a sport flair to your bike I would definetly consider the GV.

RicoChet · 09-11-2006, 12:13 AM

Dude you cant go wrong with an M50.. just take it for a spin, you'll know it rocks.

RichFU · 09-11-2006, 02:05 AM

Thats a sweet looking ride, check out what after market gear is out for it. The mod bug will hit, and you want options

If you choose the m50 you will not go wrong,and alot of people here to ask questions.

Apertureguy · 09-11-2006, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brontobill

Hey folks,
I am a new rider, currently the owner of a 250 Nighthawk

As a new rider, I wouldn't be as concerned about the quarter mile times. I'd be more concerned at how well the bike & I fit...both from a riding ability perspective as well as overall comfort. Just my 2 cents.

SNAFU · 09-11-2006, 08:37 AM

I tried to convince the wife to get the Hyosung if she was ever looking to upgrade her bike. That's so I can ride it too.

What? As if you guys never did it.

brontobill · 09-11-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apertureguy

As a new rider, I wouldn't be as concerned about the quarter mile times. I'd be more concerned at how well the bike & I fit...both from a riding ability perspective as well as overall comfort. Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, I don't even push my 250 all that hard. I am interested in the quarter times more as an indication of the character of the bike. I would really like to be able to get out and enjoy some mountain runs (I'm in upstate SC).
Thanks for all the info, I can't seem to find a dealer that does test rides, so all I have to go on is what I hear.

SNAFU · 09-12-2006, 11:34 AM

I would suggest you get the Hyosung so you can tell us about it. It would be nice to hear something different because all you hear around here is "M50 this, M50 that, our bike is sooo cool, blah blah blah"

But seriously though IMO you can't go wrong with the M, but if you decide to get the Hyosung make sure it's BLACK.

It's Faster.

T-Bone · 09-12-2006, 05:51 PM

I would make a straight comparison of the two. Ride each one if you can. If can't, at least sit on both a few times. How it feels will be the most important thing. Maybe you can get in touch with someone in your area that owns an M50. Have them go see the Korean bike with you and bring the M along. You can't go wrong seeing the two them side by side!

Oh yeah, and black is the only way to go...of course!

Ext1jdh · 09-13-2006, 03:39 PM

The M is a sweet machine. I can't say anything bout the Hyosung, but it seems to be kickin. It claims to have more HP than the M50, but who knows. I've found the M to be very tame at low speeds with a ton of power to get ya moving.

For anyone who's complaining about it being Korean, check out your Ford - a very large percentage of American cars are made of parts built in the Asian countries.

09-10-2006, 11:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
brontobill Newbie Joined: Sep 2006 Bike: Honda Nighthawk 250 Location: Central, SC Posts: 9	In the market for a new bike Hey folks, I am a new rider, currently the owner of a 250 Nighthawk, been watching these forums for a few weeks (trolling?). I am looking to purchase a bike in a few months and I am leaning heavily towards the M50. Until yesterday, I had never actually seen the bike in person. My local dealer finally got one in though, and I liked it even more in person. But instead of making it an easy decision, my dealer complicated matters by introducing me to the Hyosung GV650. I spent all day yesterday checking out the little bit of information there is about this Korean bike, and I am torn now. I know that this is probably not the best place to get an unbiased opinion, but I would really value a weigh-in from you folks. Thanks

09-10-2006, 01:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Davejb Newbie Joined: Jul 2006 Bike: 2006 M50 Location: Seacoast, New Hampshire Posts: 20	I traded my 06 Vulcan 750 for an 06 M50 and I'm glad I did, it's a great bike, very stable and comfortable, I would highly recommend it! __________________ Red Knights Chapter 5 Epping, NH Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

09-10-2006, 02:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rockhead M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: M50 Location: 1060 West Addison, Chicago Posts: 3,767	This guy has one but hasn’t posted for a while. http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/fo...hlight=Hyosung What ever you decide good luck Last edited by Rockhead; 09-10-2006 at 02:13 PM.

09-10-2006, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
outlaw Fifth gear streak Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: Red '05 M50 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 1,375	heres my 2 wan pappasan. go for the M. too bad you can't get a red one. they are the fastest of all M's produced. that korean job probably runs on soju though. i know that is cheaper than gas although it's probably harder to get here in the states..... __________________

09-11-2006, 12:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
919Hooligan TurtleWax Taster Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2002 Honda 919 Location: St. Louis Posts: 592	In cycle world tests the M ran a 14.29@ 88mph, bone stock. I have done some investigation into the Hyosung myself, and I saw an article that claimed 20 some odd lb ft of torque and 71 hp. According to cycle world, the M is 45 hp and 44 lbft of torque. So, coming off the stoplight the M will feel gutsier, but the Hyosung has quite a pull on top end. In the end, the GV may run a little quicker through the quarter (.5 seconds at most) but the M will be better all around. If your gonna be running the snot out of it constantly you may like the top end of the GV. I personally like the look of the M better, but thats up to you. Just fyi, Hyosung has been building bikes for years (est. 1978, started making parts for suzuki in 1979), some that were rebadged as suzuki's in other markets. Thier 650 v-twin is basically a copy of the Suzuki SV650 v-twin, but carbureted. The overall quality of the bikes is supposedly pretty darn good, with an outstanding factory warranty (two years I believe). Plus it's got good cornering clearance, dual front/single rear disc brakes, a factory 2:1 exhaust, dealer optional performance muffler (which I hear improves torque a little at low revs), and some other accessories. It also seems that the company has a huge financial backing that has already put in place a fine network of warehouses to house parts, so that even though it's a new bike, parts availability won't be a problem. Plus, msrp is $6199. I'm actually interested in thier half faired sport bike, the GT650S. 79hp for $5399, and it's gorgeous. Check out Hyosung Motors America . p.s. I still love my M, but if you want a sport flair to your bike I would definetly consider the GV. __________________ Life's short and hard, like a body building elf. Last edited by 919Hooligan; 09-11-2006 at 12:11 AM.

09-10-2006, 12:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
enjoyIT Kickstand Operator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 red M50 Location: Ont Canada Posts: 280	i can't say anything about the GV but i will say you will not be disapointed if you go with the M she is one sweet ride

09-10-2006, 03:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigRed1 Ditch Magnet Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Location: Ashburn, Va. Posts: 195	If you buy the Korean bike overtime I believe you will wish you bought the M. 800cc is just right for handling all types of traffice issues when HP is needed. I see this bike as underpowered and this could be an issue. Just my two yen.

09-10-2006, 09:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
brontobill Newbie Joined: Sep 2006 Bike: Honda Nighthawk 250 Location: Central, SC Posts: 9	Even thou its only a 650cc it has more HP than the M50. 67HP and 20lbs lighter If you buy the Korean bike overtime I believe you will wish you bought the M. 800cc is just right for handling all types of traffice issues when HP is needed. I see this bike as underpowered and this could be an issue. This is what it comes down to for me. Both of the bikes look awesome IMO, and what I would really like is a bike that is going to be a thrill to ride as well as look good. I have heard two different stories about the M50, it's either pokey or a rocket. One site has it's quarter mile time at 15.5 and another shows 14. I also am not quite sure about the benefits of torque versus horsepower. Also belt drive versus shaft. P.S. I gotta say, black looked pretty damn fast at the dealer.

09-10-2006, 10:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sullyboo Clunked into first gear Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: M50 Location: NJ Posts: 223	Nice looking bike but not my style, to much crome and looks like a V-Rod. I am not a fan of V-Rods either.

09-11-2006, 12:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
RicoChet Fender Buffer Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: 2005 Black M50 Location: Thornhill, Ontario Posts: 436	Dude you cant go wrong with an M50.. just take it for a spin, you'll know it rocks.

09-11-2006, 02:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
RichFU Newbie Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: 05 M-50 Blue Location: CT Posts: 8	Thats a sweet looking ride, check out what after market gear is out for it. The mod bug will hit, and you want options If you choose the m50 you will not go wrong,and alot of people here to ask questions.

09-11-2006, 08:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
SNAFU Just Won't Go Away ! Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Black Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 5,006	I tried to convince the wife to get the Hyosung if she was ever looking to upgrade her bike. That's so I can ride it too. What? As if you guys never did it. __________________

09-12-2006, 11:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
SNAFU Just Won't Go Away ! Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Black Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 5,006	I would suggest you get the Hyosung so you can tell us about it. It would be nice to hear something different because all you hear around here is "M50 this, M50 that, our bike is sooo cool, blah blah blah" But seriously though IMO you can't go wrong with the M, but if you decide to get the Hyosung make sure it's BLACK. It's Faster. __________________

09-12-2006, 05:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
T-Bone In Training Joined: Apr 2006 Bike: 06 M50, Black Location: Cambridge, Ontario Posts: 140	I would make a straight comparison of the two. Ride each one if you can. If can't, at least sit on both a few times. How it feels will be the most important thing. Maybe you can get in touch with someone in your area that owns an M50. Have them go see the Korean bike with you and bring the M along. You can't go wrong seeing the two them side by side! Oh yeah, and black is the only way to go...of course! __________________ T-Bone

09-13-2006, 03:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ext1jdh Top Gear ! Full Throttle! Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: Sold Location: Elgin, IL, US Posts: 5,257	The M is a sweet machine. I can't say anything bout the Hyosung, but it seems to be kickin. It claims to have more HP than the M50, but who knows. I've found the M to be very tame at low speeds with a ton of power to get ya moving. For anyone who's complaining about it being Korean, check out your Ford - a very large percentage of American cars are made of parts built in the Asian countries. __________________ I am lurking. I am likely to be eaten by a grue.

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